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sick of looking through listings of overpriced rust buckets, (and 2+2s, doesn't matter if they had rust- I prefer rust to a datto with an afterthought back seat ) Are people really that insane $$$$ ??? went for some class instead, bought a  2000 Supra TT

You can still get a cheap S30Z if you're willing to buy 1 from the US and import it here, but everyone's afraid of LHD.

 

By the way the 2+2 was part of the initial design concepts, so it wasn't an after thought.

http://jdm-car-parts.com/blogs/news/14811645-phantom-z-designed-by-mr-matsuo-will-be-revealed

 

Not that it matters now, but enjoy your Supra.

 

As designing progressed toward the production, design team came up with variation of this special sport car: GT racing version, Targa top, convertible, coupe with notch back, 2+2, and station wagon. However, only 2+2 version became production car 5 years after 240Z was introduced.

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260z 2+2? Or find a rusty 240z/260z 2 seater and build it yourself, learn to weld etc..? Do anything, just don't buy a Triumph haha.

 

Datsun Sports...

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Pretty cool rally car on gumtree...

 

$65,000.00

Moorebank, NSW.

 

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/moorebank/cars-vans-utes/1974-datsun-240z-coupe-vintage-rally-car/1121561739

 

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1974 DATSUN 240Z Classic RALLY CAR

 

 

Originally built in 1974, but restored in 1999, by Stewart Wilkins Motorsport, for 2000 “London/Sydney Marathon” in which it came 11th.

 

 

This car has completed in numerous Classic events, since 1999, including Targa Tasmania, Classic Adelaide, circuit racing, etc. i.e. and then the Australian leg of the Sydney/London Marathon Rally of 2014.

 

 

The Car Feature’s Include:-

 

 

Fully incorporated roll cage, front & rear body braces.

 

Reinforced strut mounts.

 

2 x roof air vents.

 

Large under body stone tray.

 

 

L24 Engine, 1.5mm oversize 2450cc, triple webers, special extractors, the engine characteristics provide a strong mid range and broad power band.

 

Gearbox is standard from a later Skyline (freshly rebuilt), ratios 1st/ 3.3, 2nd/1.906, 3rd/1.308, 4th/1.0, 5th/.838

 

 

The diff is an R200, ratio 4.375:1 fitted with a clutch type LSD.

 

 

Brakes, 4 piston callipers front & rear with pedal box and hydraulic handbrake.

 

 

The struts are Proflex 45mm canister type, with bump & rebound adjustment as well as spring height adjustment.

 

 

Suspension arms are adjustable & have been strengthened.

 

 

There is a 120 litre bladder tank fitted inside the car with an aluminium fire wall. Twin fuel pumps with water separator & filters.

 

 

The body has never received major accident damage, has no rust, and has been continually “Road Registered”. (MC 240Z)

 

 

Wheels 15x6 Enkei magnesium genuine Nissan wheels from a 240RS.

 

 

Numerous spare parts available also.

 

 

The asking price is $65,000 AUD (negotiable.)

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Ahh!  that famous  picture  from the retired engineers home ( locked security ward)- all  expressing surprise/ hilarity  when told " automotive design/engineering has moved on since 1969"

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Ahh!  that famous  picture  from the retired engineers home ( locked security ward)- all  expressing surprise/ hilarity  when told " automotive design/engineering has moved on since 1969"

You're missing the point though, what is driving 240z values is not how advanced it is compared to today's cars. Modern cars do almost everything better, but that's exactly why they can't replace the experience of an older car.

You have to be a lot more engaged with older cars, drive them with care, look after them. Tinker with them and compromise. My FD RX-7 is almost better in every way (except fuel economy somewhat ironically). It has LSD, 4 pot calipers, rear disc brakes, 250+ HP out of the box, air-con, great chassis and handling, fuel injection, power steering, no fumes coming into the cabin, better aero etc..

 

But if I had to pick the car I love more, it's the S30Z. Why? Because when I take it out for a drive I feel like a celebrity rock star. It has that classic look and appeals to all generations young and old. The FD gets a few jealous stares here and there, but it probably makes me look more like a pretentious wanker than anything else. Some may say it suits me fine. :P.

 

The whole ceremony around the warm up cycle, the quirky dim green lit gauges, the bonnet that flips up forward, chrome bumpers etc.. The raw driving experience that let's you know you're in control. That's why people are chasing these cars.

 

Let's face it a lot of cars build in that period were lemon's, but the great cars are still great today. The people looking to buy an S30Z now probably had 1 back in the day or are trying to get back into 1 now and their wealth has accumulated over many years and they have the money to indulge in a classic. When compared to similar cars of a similar vintage, they are still fairly priced.

 

But I've already gone over these things before in here.

http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/13593-classic-car-bubble/

 

Like I say, enjoy your Supra, but it's an Apples vs Oranges comparison. The market will pay what it thinks they are worth, neither you or I can change that. Sadly as I've discovered with Real Estate. It is what it is.

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Given Banzaized seems to be posting deliberately inflammatory comments with such as low posting count:

 

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Ahh!  that famous  picture  from the retired engineers home ( locked security ward)- all  expressing surprise/ hilarity  when told " automotive design/engineering has moved on since 1969"

There's no point trying to argue with a sore loser... Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

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sick of looking through listings of overpriced rust buckets, (and 2+2s, doesn't matter if they had rust- I prefer rust to a datto with an afterthought back seat ) Are people really that insane $$$$ ??? went for some class instead, bought a  2000 Supra TT

You went for class? bloke you went for paul walker and fast and the furious.....and a car that is a dime a dozen.....have fun with resale value :)

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You went for class? bloke you went for paul walker and fast and the furious.....and a car that is a dime a dozen.....have fun with resale value :)

 

Actually, all the Japanese hero cars of the 90s seem to be heading back up in value. R32-R34 GTRs (R33's are laggards as they somewhat deserve to be due to their boring styling IMHO), NSX, FD RX-7's, Supra's (clean TTs) etc.. In many cases selling for more money than their new sticker price. However that is often the limited edition versions with low km's when they go to auction.

 

I think collectors are trying to get ahead of the curve and it's actually driving prices back up sooner than I would have expected. Also a firmer YEN vs AUD has made the prospect of importing cars a lot more expensive than finding a good local example.

 

Just what I've observed. 

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gtrs yes because they killed on race tracks and were totally ahead of their time with tech, nsx because of limited production and leading design and reliability, but i would suggest rx7 or supras there just isn't anything standout about them besides youtube videos of them pulling huge numbers on dynos and been flogged to death...but ive never had an interest in the latter so my knowledge is limited.... i think rx7 i think unreliable, ricer, vin diesel, I think supra I think....nothing really, I think GTR I think Bathurst and global track racing domination, I think NSX i think rarity and uniqueness, race design (f1).... but again i guess its all a matter of opinion. 

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yes rotaries are cool but christ when rx3s/rx4s and series 2s were huge in the mid 90s people were blowing apex seals more than they changed their underpants:)

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1973 240z on car sales for 55k, currently at Gosford Classic Car Museum, this is the Matt Drago car http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/13537-sold-1973-datsun-240z-silver/

http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/_/OAG-AD-13307715?WT.seg_4=AutoAlert;PCAA

Wow, Almost 60% uplift in value in less than a year - that can make a museum worthwhile

 

Does anyone that knows the car think it is fair value? Or a bit overdone?

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Wow, Almost 60% uplift in value in less than a year - that can make a museum worthwhile

 

Does anyone that knows the car think it is fair value? Or a bit overdone?

 

It's Matt Drago's old car (he was / is a member here), I saw what it looked like before restoration and to be honest it was pretty rust free. So it's a good solid car, having said that it was a DIY restoration and whilst Matt did an excellent job it isn't show quality. As much as it pains me to say it, the Ex-Edward Lee's 240z (the orange car) they sold before it was the better buy at this price range. Simply because it was an earlier 240z with the early features and still had the original radio etc..

 

I also personally don't like Silver as much on S30Z's, but the Edward Lee's car was not nearly as good in person as it looked in photos. The paint quality wasn't as good as I expected given it's had a respray etc.. but I still think it sold for a fair price.

 

Agree though the whole Museum thing is really just a dealership you can walk into admire the cars and then buy at an inflated price a couple of years later ;). Of course the guy running it has been doing this sort of thing for years (flipping cars).

 

*Edit here is Matt's blog.

http://240z.drago.com.au/?p=3

 

You can see what it looked like before.

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http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/st-albans/cars-vans-utes/1975-datsun-260z-coupe-jdm/1121676538

 

1975 Datsun 260Z Coupe JDM

$9,990.00

 

St Albans Victoria.

 

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Turn key car. Drives and goes. All original and rust free. Must be seen to make offer.

 

5 spd. L26 Twin Carb. Extractors. Mechanically Very good.

 

New Hoses and Lines.

 

Rust free, recent paint job.

 

Club Reg listing. So RWC no problem.

 

MAGS ARE NOT INCLUDED, will have standard rims.

 

FORCED SALE-hence the lower priced value in comparison to other z's.

 

 

I would only swap if there was cash to be added towards me for any celica ta22 - ra28 skyline r32 200sx 240z 280zx 300zx supra mr2 rx7 13b jdm honda lancer evo wrx alfa wrangler kingswood v8 turbo 4wd

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Red 1975 260z 2+2 on gumtree     $12500

 

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/st-albans/cars-vans-utes/1975-datsun-260z-coupe/1119025638

 

Sellers description:

Datsun 260z.[/size]5spd Man. 2 engines 1)L26 engine has been rebuilt for high revs. 2)Matching numbers L26 & also an auto g'box. Extractors. New hoses & lines, tuned. Fender mirrors. Has recent respray, good from far, far from good. Totally rust free. Interior is good, however front driver seat shows wear and tear. Reskined dash.Car is a head turner. Regretful / forced sale.Priced to sell-first to see will buy.P-plate legal/fast car.Definitely collectible.[/size]This car comes with an RB26 long engine in the deal, was gonna implant it in.[/size]It's a JDM classic just like a GTR skyline or celica 's Ra28 - TA22, drift cars.[/size]Mags are negotiable. Comes with stock rims.[/size]

 

 

What do you guys think???

  

Same car but now being sold without the RB26 engine to go with it

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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Datsun-240k-and-260z-/262594782584

 

Starting bid: $10k

 

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Datsun 240K Coupe

 

Rare find

My plan was to restore, however, I don't have the time.

Motor: original matching number motor, however, it doesn't start

Transmission: Auto

Body: has all panels, needs restoring has rust

 

Located in Sydney metro

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