HS30-00211

[OdinZ]

8 minutes ago, C.A.F. said:

And when are you going to buy said Z?

So you can call him an idiot again!? 

Edited July 26, 2021 by OdinZ

[gav240z]

10 hours ago, OdinZ said:

So you can call him an idiot again!? 

You're missing the prefix to "idiot".

[C.A.R.]

With the RH side completed I turned my attention to the LH side of the plenum:



So I fabricated a repair section, cannibalized the duct fitting from the old panel, then prepped and welded it to the new panel.

[gilltech]

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And sellers on Carsales want you to pay ~$100k when you have no idea as to what is happening under the shell of the car - crazy!

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And when are you going to buy said Z?

 

Plenty of cars of lesser value to probably keep CAF busy for many years to come.....

Edited July 27, 2021 by gilltech

[240ZBUILTBYME]

Thank god for this rusty car. It’s rusty in all the same spots as mine! So I get to see how it needs to be done! Well done Lachy without a U 

[hmd]

philosophical question: 

If you take all the rusty bits Lurch cut out and build another z, which car is the real HS30-00211 ?

[gilltech]

Ha! Hopefully Lurch doesn't have to replace more than 49%..... Whatever happens it will be part Japanese steel and part BHP steel. Australian content if you will.

Take the situation of an historic rally car which has been re-bodied along the way, but someone has obtained and repaired the original shell... Just who owns the car and its provenance?

[C.A.R.]

6 minutes ago, gilltech said:

Take the situation of an historic rally car which has been re-bodied along the way, but someone has obtained and repaired the original shell... Just who owns the car and its provenance?

I spend a bit of time in historic motor racing circles - what you've alluded to is a massive problem, as through the mists of time two people can own two cars that have the same chassis number...

As for #211, Tony asked this exact question of me and my reply was:
"We are not changing the identity of the car. We are saving it."

[C.A.R.]

While I've been rebuilding the plenum, Paul has been busying himself with the original LH guard:















More to do on it yet, though...

Edited July 29, 2021 by C.A.F.

[gilltech]

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We are saving it."

You most certainly are. Full marks to all those involved.

[hmd]

12 hours ago, C.A.F. said:

"We are not changing the identity of the car. We are saving it."

We are glad another one is restored to its former glory. Ignore my attempt at humour. 

[C.A.R.]

2 hours ago, hmd said:

We are glad another one is restored to its former glory. Ignore my attempt at humour. 

I knew you were making a joke Mr. Lo - it was a valiant effort though

 

[C.A.R.]

While I've been finishing off the wiper panel:



Paul finished off the metalwork on the LH guard:









It then got a good wire-wheeling to remove the light surface rust and given a coat of Phosphoric Acid:

Edited August 3, 2021 by C.A.F.

[gilltech]

Wow. Great work guys.

[C.A.R.]

It's been a while between updates...
A couple of distractions got in the way, but we have still been making progress with #211.

While the LH guard was being worked on, I set about finishing off the firewall because in typical Z fashion where the plenum bottom lip joins the firewall, the firewall had rusted though in various spots:



So my only choice was to unpick the bonnet catch mount and cut a long strip out of the firewall above and below the plenum flange:



The rusty flange was de-rusted, then I made a new patch and welded it in.
It was followed up by linishing the welds smooth and tapping it about to make it straight again.

[C.A.R.]

I sent the dashboard off to the Dashboard Doctor a couple of months ago, and it arrived back yesterday:

[Mike_F]

1 hour ago, C.A.F. said:

I sent the dashboard off to the Dashboard Doctor a couple of months ago, and it arrived back yesterday:

How much did you need to strip off behind it?

[C.A.R.]

5 hours ago, Mike_F said:

How much did you need to strip off behind it?

Everything must be removed except for the metal frame.

[Linton]

very nice they wouldn't fix mine and sent it back

[C.A.R.]

Next was the repair of the skirt below the battery tray - a panel I hate making because of the reverse curve it has in it.









A fair bit of work, however I'm pretty happy with how the repair came out.

[C.A.R.]

Next I moved onto the front of the LH skirt - the tin worm had gotten into this area, so I took a pattern, made a replacement section and welded it into place:

[C.A.R.]

Next was the big job... The chassis rail.
The  engine cross-member support gusset had a rust hole, so I unpicked it to reveal the state to the skirt behind it:









Nothing else for it but to remove the chassis rail now:





This photo really shots how rusty early Z rails get...



If your 240Z engine bay frame rails haven't been replaced, how rust free are they...?

[AndBir]

2 hours ago, C.A.F. said:

If your 240Z engine bay frame rails haven't been replaced, how rust free are they...?

Yep, goes back to my comment in another thread about paying six figure sums for 70's cars that are bound to be rusting from the inside out (unless it has been unpicked and restored as in this topic).

[Agno]

Its a shame there isn't anyone in Australia (as far as I know) that does full car body galvanising/e-coat dip primer in Australia to stop this from happening in the future.

[gav240z]

On 9/15/2021 at 10:43 AM, AndBir said:

Yep, goes back to my comment in another thread about paying six figure sums for 70's cars that are bound to be rusting from the inside out (unless it has been unpicked and restored as in this topic).

What's worse is that all the Yolo hipster types that want to slot in big power engines into these cars when they have no idea if the integrity of the car structure is any good. I mean chances are most cars running around are not as strong as they were when sold in 1970 now due to issues like this.. yet they all want 500hp+... recipe for trouble if you ask me.

But I've just outed myself as an old fart. Shouting at young whipper snippers with my walking cane.