CBR Jeff Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 15 hours ago, C.A.F. said: Starts getting a bit scary when you cut away this much... Not from here. I'm finding it quite interesting, almost exciting. Jeff OdinZ, gav240z and C.A.R. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilltech Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Quote Starts getting a bit scary when you cut away this much... Quote Not from here. I'm finding it quite interesting, almost exciting. Ditto. Having restored a Mustang ragtop with a myriad of rust issues under the paint (more cosmetic than structural, thankfully) and knowing the long time it took me, I'll not rush to tackle another. So AFAIAC maximum credit to those intent on saving this car. Just goes to show what increasing Zed values are doing, making very rusty cars like this one more financially viable to rebuild. Which saves more of them. Whereas a decade or so ago it would surely have been a source of parts and the remainder eventually scrapped. gav240z 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.A.R. Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 LH inner and outer sill assembly is now done. I can't do anything about the doglegs (rockers) until I receive quarters... The bottom of the LH A-post was gone, so I made a new section and welded it into place. And I remade the lower section of the LH rear door jamb area as that was badly repaired previously. Liberal application of KBS Rust seal: Outer sill screwed into position and the door fitted to check the gaps: Onto the RH side next... gav240z, OdinZ, CBR Jeff and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.A.R. Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 RH side was next, so the door was gapped so I had something to compare the gaps too. And the bad repairs: Nothing for it, but to start cutting it all out: And then start reinstalling the funky green panels: Outer sill on, bottom of A post repaired and welded back in along with the bottom of the B post: While I was installing the sills, I had one of my guys - Paul - straighten the original LH guard as it had been beaten around more than a honeymooners wedding tackle: Floors are next... 240ZBUILTBYME, OdinZ, HS30-H and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.A.R. Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 After a bit of farnarkling and swearing, the RH Funky Green floorpan is in. LH Side is next... CBR Jeff, gav240z, Ponyo240z and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBR Jeff Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 John Clarke would be impressed. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.A.R. Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 LH floor is now complete: Mike F and gilltech 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.A.R. Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 The footwells will be repaired at a later time... Today I started on the plenum top & got the RH side repaired, less the inspection flap mount: LH side next week... gav240z and Mike F 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilltech Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Jesus that car has had a tough life... your impressive work though is bringing it back from the brink. Looking at that butt joint in the lower part of the last photo, what's the plan to deal with the cut'n'shut front quarter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240ZBUILTBYME Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 59 minutes ago, gilltech said: Jesus that car has had a tough life... your impressive work though is bringing it back from the brink. Looking at that butt joint in the lower part of the last photo, what's the plan to deal with the cut'n'shut front quarter? I believe that’s a stock join isn’t it? From memory it’s the join of the a pillar and air plenum that goes the the nose of the car. gav240z 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.A.R. Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, gilltech said: Jesus that car has had a tough life... your impressive work though is bringing it back from the brink. Looking at that butt joint in the lower part of the last photo, what's the plan to deal with the cut'n'shut front quarter? That's where they repair was joined, but it's also where they join them with stich welds from the factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilltech Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 What I meant is that the structural welding, by a repair person unknown, looks extremely poor (an understatement). One can presume that the rest of the welding used to attach the replacement front quarter, way back when, is of a similar low standard. So, what to do? Take the quarter off again and make all good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) The welding from factory was very rough in that area. Lucky what do you use on the raised joint between the air tube and plenum its seems to be a non hardening mastic (brand?) Nick Edited July 17, 2021 by NickF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestoZ Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 That's Lucky without a U AndBir, 240ZBUILTBYME, OdinZ and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.A.R. Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 7/17/2021 at 4:16 PM, gilltech said: So, what to do? Take the quarter off again and make all good? Watch this space... On 7/17/2021 at 5:17 PM, NickF said: Lucky what do you use on the raised joint between the air tube and plenum its seems to be a non hardening mastic (brand?) I'll just be sealing it with regular seam sealer, Nock. On 7/17/2021 at 10:15 PM, RestoZ said: That's Lucky without a U You seam to be having the same issue as Nock above... Are you two related? NickF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.A.R. Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) With the plenum to panel sides repaired... I tapped it with a hammer and the panel came off: And this is the reason I removed it - I needed access to repair this: Onwards........ Edited July 25, 2021 by C.A.F. gav240z, OdinZ, gilltech and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240ZBUILTBYME Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 11:26 AM, C.A.F. said: And this is the reason I removed it - I needed access to repair this: I need to do this exact same thing to repair mine, wanted to take that panel off exactly as you have, but I’d never seen it done. Good to know it’s doable! Great work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.A.R. Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) I decided to remove the plate inside the plenum that reinforces the pedal box mounts on the inside - no exactly easy to get at, but I eventually got it removed: Tasty... I wire brushed the area, then I make a repair patch to follow the curves, cut the rusted section out and welded in the new piece into place. Edited July 25, 2021 by C.A.F. gilltech, OdinZ, CBR Jeff and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilltech Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Wow. Rust damage every which way you turn. The impressive repair work continues. gav240z 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndBir Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 4 hours ago, gilltech said: Rust damage every which way you turn. And how many of our cars have this insidious rust "infection" quietly eating away from the inside out? - the answer is all of them - it just varies as to how extensive it is :-( And sellers on Carsales want you to pay ~$100k when you have no idea as to what is happening under the shell of the car - crazy! 240ZBUILTBYME, gilltech and OdinZ 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted July 26, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 26, 2021 Applies to any vintage cars for sale of that era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndBir Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 hours ago, gav240z said: Applies to any vintage cars for sale of that era. Unless they have had the C.A.F. restoration treatment :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilltech Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Quote Unless they have had the C.A.F. restoration treatment :-) Ah, yes, but restoration implies putting the subject back to as-made. From what I'm seeing I'd go further and describe that detailed work as preservation, better than the factory's effort of the day, with enhanced longevity for enjoyment by future generations. Perhaps pass the car down to ones grandchildren... Except petrol may be a limited commodity by then so conversion to an electric power plant might be required along the way... 240ZBUILTBYME 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted July 26, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 26, 2021 9 hours ago, AndBir said: Unless they have had the C.A.F. restoration treatment :-) This is why I like to buy the cleanest car possible to begin with... Because otherwise you're doing exactly what is being done here. Everything! 240ZBUILTBYME and AndBir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.A.R. Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, gav240z said: This is why I like to buy the cleanest car possible to begin with. And when are you going to buy said Z? 240ZBUILTBYME, OdinZ, gav240z and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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