Cars For Sale (3rd Party Sites) Ebay, Carsales etc..

Riceburner · July 1, 2017

HS30 00510 for sale.

It has HS30 00138's compliance tag though...

https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-4837425

What happens with the two different chassis numbers on the car, when it comes to rego?

Is it cut and shut? I'd be very careful.

Edited July 1, 2017 by Gareth. J.

cracker · July 1, 2017

There's not really two different chassis numbers - 510 appears on the manufacturers ID plate and on the firewall so it's near certain that it's #510. Why did they attach an incorrect compliance plate? Who knows... it was done by the PO so will be lost in the annals of history. The compliance plate is riveted into the incorrect position also, so it's clearly just slapped on at some point quickly.

mossy · July 1, 2017

Two different numbers would be enough for me to walk away.

gilltech · July 1, 2017

So what happens if a car is put in for inspection for intending registration, and there is no ADR compliance plate attached?

It can't be treated in the same manner as a used import would be because there's no 'import approval' certificate.

But there will be records and paperwork to show that the car has been previously registered on Australian roads so was sold here new.

The car is '71. AFAIK the ADRs were introduced in '69 but weren't formally adopted by all state authorities until quite some years later. As Gav240 suggests maybe there wasn't a ADR plate on the car when new and the PO just tacked that one on for some reason.

Has anyone here with an early car without a plate ever had any issues with inspection and registration?

If the car would have had a ADR plate when new but the plate has since disappeared can a new one be legally manufactured and issued, or is there any need?

Edited July 1, 2017 by gilltech

russandra · July 1, 2017

If the car is pre 1/72 no compliance plate is required. The compliance plate cannot be re-issued. That is what I was told by Qld Transport Dept last year when I enquired. Also if the car has been previousky registered and you have the cassis number, engine number etc, then it is no problem. Get a valid roadworthy and safety certificate and Qld Transport are happy.

Edited July 1, 2017 by russandra

gilltech · July 1, 2017

Thanks that answers my questions.

This car is in VIC though, hopefully they are as relaxed as QLD is by what you've found.

Best if the current owner removes the incorrect plate asap.

gav240z · July 2, 2017

My assumption is that the compliance plate was fitted because a previous owner thought it was missing and perhaps nicked it off #138 which was being wrecked. Not realising or aware that the compliance plate has the VIN stamped on it.

This car didn't require a compliance plate my early 72 240z doesn't have 1 but #150 does which kind of goes to show how haphazard the fitment of them was at the time.

I think it is safe to assume #138 is gone for good. The cracked chassis on #510 is definitely interesting to say the least. I do wonder how it happened. If there was some kind of cut n shut etc..

gilltech · July 2, 2017

Yes those joints don't look quite right, and some ugly blob welding in there that's not original. That should raise eyebrows at inspection time. Maybe that's why the car got laid up in the first place. Outwardly the car looks nice though, the current owner has scrubbed it up well.

gav240z · July 3, 2017

Thinking about this more, it's possible #138 was used as a front-end donor for #510 and just welded on the front. Hence why the compliance tag remains? Keep in mind a cut n' shut was legal up until around 1989 I think (correct me if I'm wrong?) in which case it could have happened before that time.

If it's properly done it's fine, but in this case you may need to rectify some poorly done work (even though the shut lines look quite good on the car).

Of course we could be wrong also, it's possible they were just poor rust repairs carried out in that area?

gilltech · July 3, 2017

The compliance tag has simply been screwed on using an existing pair of tapped holes judging by my own car. As another pointed out it's not the usual place. Best removed.

The ID plate is #510. Is the same number stamped into the firewall?

Looking at the weld lines beneath the paint and underseal it does look a bit like a cut'n'shut. Certainly things have moved and need to be realigned.

Outwardly the car looks very clean and tidy, I like the look of it very much. It wouldn't scare me off, it's all fixable.

Edited July 3, 2017 by gilltech

GongZ · July 4, 2017

"Datsun 260Z coupe 2-seater suit full restoration"

$10,000 or Make Offer

Nowra, NSW

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/152610669020?ul_noapp=true

"Datsun 260 z 2 seater coupe - suit full restoration

As Last picture shows this was an immaculate example of a rare car Being an early production 1/74 year model and 515 off the production line

Unfortunately was caught up in a workshop fire

This is a rust free body and no warping from fire occurred

It does however show minor dents / dings in this condition but no rust

The vehicle is fitted with a Holden 308 and 4 speed gearbox which could be easily be removed to fit the original running gear or anything you wish when restoring - no body mods were made in fitting

Vehicle is rolling and inspections are recommended

Open to serious offers

Vehicle is located on the south coast at Nowra"

gav240z · July 4, 2017

Didn't that car appear on eBay not long ago? Sold for around $25k or so?

gilltech · July 4, 2017

Sad end to a nicely presented car. Can't see it being a repairable write-off, or economically viable, with that amount of fire damage, so asking $10K seems extraordinarily hopeful.....

chris240 · July 4, 2017

Sheeeezus...

Lamb on the spit.

ScottyB · July 4, 2017

Well, someone has bought the red 240. Hope they had a good look underneath and are aware of what they've got.

gav240z · July 5, 2017

That 260z may be good for panels, but not at $10k.. I wonder how intense the fire was and if it weakened the steel much?

He might get 5k back by cutting it up for 1/4 panels, roof, doors, bonnet etc..

AndBir · July 5, 2017

Fairlady Z 260z s30

Current bid:

AU $1,000.00

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fairlady-Z-260z-s30-/122582611101?hash=item1c8a7e349d:g:lDwAAOSw3YJZXIdu

Been sitting for 18 months, still gets started, rolled and driven a few metres and also has fluids and changed occasionally just to keep everything fresh. Has been a wonderful car for the 7 years that I have had it, but with 3 children, I don't have time for a sports coupe at this point in my life.

The motor, an L28 (L28442708) was refreshed by Stuart Wilkins Motorsport (NSW) in 2013/2014 with the head being ported and polished in Silverwater while it was off. It also has a larger aftermarket cam, Twin round top SU's and an electronic ignition. The engine is backed by a 5 speed manual Transmission.

Bodywork is a mixture of Marugen Shoukai IMSA style flares to suit a G-Nose that have been modified to suit a short nose car with a Restored.jp carbon front air dam (painted) and also has a three piece rear duck tail spoiler from Marugen Shoukai to compliment the large flares. The colour is 40th anniversary gun metal grey from the 370z, but extra pink pearl was added to the mix.

The wheels are custom Work Miesters S1s that have been modified at Eastern Wheel Works (Victoria) to fit the wide body.

The interior has had a freshen up and has a Pioneer head unit installed in the glove box and contains a discreet 6 speaker sound system that doesn't detract from the era correct interior with Momo Prototippo Steering wheel.

The car isn't perfect, it has some flaws in the paint, but that is a few years old now and it has been driven quite a bit (including some interstate trips) The car really needs coilovers instead of the king springs and older shock absorbers it has currently, and would probably benefit from larger brakes to handle the wider rubber. But it really is a great looking ride, the motor is bullet proof and has a lot of torque for an old 6.

I am not looking for any swaps, not interested in hosting joyrides or entertaining tyre kickers, nothing will be parted out and I will not respond to low ball offers. Obviously I reserve the right to cancel the sale, or auction at any time.

Patch · July 5, 2017

240k 73 posted on FB group.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/186001521494482?view=permalink&id=1453921528035802

Link to FB profile.

https://www.facebook.com/anfernie.vtec

Edited July 5, 2017 by Patch

gav240z · July 5, 2017

Fairlady Z 260z s30

Current bid:

AU $1,000.00

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Fairlady-Z-260z-s30-/122582611101?hash=item1c8a7e349d:g:lDwAAOSw3YJZXIdu

Stivva's car.

http://www.viczcar.com/forum/user/101173-stivva/

Cozza · July 5, 2017

I was recently wondering what happened to Stivva and his car. It's been a long time since I've seen a post from him.

Strange he didn't post a for sale post in here??

gilltech · July 5, 2017

"I wonder how intense the fire was and if it weakened the steel much?"

That's the big question, what temperatures did it incur. The big problem with painting steel that has been cooked is getting it clean; it needs to be strip blasted so that all the pores are totally cleaned out otherwise a new paint job is very likely to not stick and rust will develop beneath. And of course the steel is affected both sides including those areas which can't be accessed.

Also intense heat while it may not be enough to noticeably buckle the steel is likely to affect the tempering thereby strength thereby safety. A challenge and judgement call with a large risk factor.

Stivva · July 10, 2017

Still about guys! And there is a little bit of a lie in the ad. I sorta do still have time for a sports coupe in my life as I have discovered after listing the car. But I want to go in an entirely different direction, so I might be better off with a stock body car.

The car is at 30k on ebay and I have 3 genuine offers of 35k which I am now umming and ahhing. But I an worried I wont be able to buy a clean car for the project at an affordable price.