Looking for advice my rx-7

[gav240z]

Hi Everyone,

I'm just looking for general advice from fellow car enthusiasts as this has been going round my head for the last 7+ days.

 

Last weekend I had my FD RX-7 stolen out of my driveway and taken for a joy ride by a couple of youths who decided to also trash it and had probably planned to torch it when finished. To say I've been upset is an understatement. I've been devastated and angry about it for a week. For me the car is more than just a car, it's a way of life, my hobby and passion and behind the 240z the FD RX-7 is a car I've always wanted and second best car I've ever had .

 

After spending a good 12 months hunting for the right example, I finally found an unmodified (or at least tastefully modified) example, which I've been really happy with and have enjoyed every minute.

 

1 of the things I really liked about it was original paint job and tidy body lines (shut lines etc..). Anyway here she was just a couple of weeks ago:

https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/MYFDRX7

 

As you can see a really good honest example, even had the original exhaust system and never boosted beyond stock. Only problem I had was a leaky radiator (plastic end tanks went on it) and I replaced this with a koyo radiator and silicon hoses. Up until this point I was collecting bits and pieces like uprated (Greddy) intercooler kit, and a few other bits and pieces for reliability improvements which most RX-7 owners perform.

 

So on to the bad part, this is what it looks like after it was stolen.

https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/Rx7StolenAndBustedUp

 

The main damage is:

 

Front bumper,

Front passenger wing

Passenger door (bent frame - trying to get in?) and major dent in door

Drivers side roof (look like someone stomped on it)

Ignition barrel was ripped out to turn ignition

Passenger door lock / used screw driver to force entry

Pop up lights - 1 damaged the other was ripped off (cover)

 

Apparently the car starts and runs, and the panel shop said the motor seems ok - but I've not driven it yet - It was literally driven 50km's at most given how much fuel I left in it and what's left now.

 

Chassis doesn't look damaged but it's possible where the passenger wing attaches to the body the metal is bent (so some bent metal under the panels), it appears no chassis damage though.

 

Insurance have declared her a category C write off, the value of these cars over here is rubbish. I paid 5,000 euro for it 1.5 years back. So I think insurance are going to try and screw me on it's value and say it's not worth anything, even though I said it's value was 5k on the policy. It's a 95 model and only done 96,000 km's on the clock.

 

A recent NCT Test (RWC) showed only a minor sump leak and headlight adjustment needing attention. It drove beautifully no clunks or noises etc..

 

This leaves me 2 options

1. Accept insurance pay out, buy the wreck back and attempt to repair myself (source parts, and get it painted etc..)

2. Accept payout and look for a new RX-7 to replace her

 

I had originally intended to bring the FD back with me to Australia, but given what's happened I feel like she's been tainted and to be honest as much as it pains me to do it, I feel like giving up on it and just buying another example. Keeping in mind it will cost a bit of money in shipping so I don't want to take junk with me.

 

I like my cars original, like they were from factory and if I'm going to go to the effort of shipping it across the world I want to make sure she's not junk. I guess I'm worried the repair just won't be the same and the car will not be returned to a standard I'm happy with. To really be happy with it, I'd want to paint the whole car not just the front or side.

 

If this was a Z I'd say she's worth saving, but given the low values of these cars over here. Finding another is painful but not impossible.

 

Am I being silly? Should a good repair job be possible? Will she ever be the same? Or should I look for a clean example and move on?

 

Right now I'm looking at the following cars as potential replacements.

 

1. http://www.irishrotary.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6399

1995 model, needs engine rebuild as water seals have gone. Not a fan of headlights or side skirts but overall looks clean and close to stock. Would rebuild motor so at least I know it's a good engine, but rebuilds cost 2-3k pounds.

 

2. http://www.irishrotary.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5361

https://picasaweb.google.com/117728920354002109670/RX7#

 

1999 model with revised front bumper and turbos, suspension etc.. Looks like a great car and so far looks like a good option, but it's done about 50,000 more km's than my current FD and no idea what condition motor is in, although owner says he'll do compression test etc.. Also not seen in person so photos could hide things.

 

Upgrading to 99 spec front bumper (on my current 95) would cost around 2000 pounds to buy new parts from Mazda, second hand is difficult to find over here as very few 99+ spec cars were brought to the UK / Ireland / EU in general. Much more common to find 92-96 models. I don't like aftermarket stuff as it never fits good.

 

3. 2001 model

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3766095.htm

 

I've actually seen this car in person, before I bought my current FD he wanted close to 15,000 euro for it. So I didn't bother, now price has dropped a bit though and it is a great looking car, despite the stickers. 2001 is the last year where the gauges were changed to white and a couple of other minor trim changes.  Very original, even original ECU (would want to upgrade to Apexi PowerFC though and this can be expensive).

 

To be honest this is my favorite example as it still has air-con (big plus when back in Australia) and dual airbags (safety matters!) - although it's also the most expensive.

 

Another advantage of buying this car is that it's already been registered in Ireland (even though it's currently in the UK) and that means not paying import tax on it, which is another 1,500+ euro on top of purchase price. Paint is very good also, and I do like Silver FD's, a classy colour.

 

4. Finally there is a very small possibility of buying  Spirit R. 1 exists in the country and I know the owner but I don't think he'd part with it for a price that's within my range.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mazda/Rx7/Spirit-R/201151206203664/advert?channel=CARS

 

So realistically options #1-#3 are probably most feasible and #3 may have been sold.

 

So would you repair existing car or go for another?

[Z]

Firstly that sucks man, but the damage could have been far worse. The cause ain't lost!

 

Personally I would keep your car, except for the Spirit R.

 

You know your car and buying another can only mean a new set of problems to sort out. The R on the other hand could be worth the jump as it is a better marque? It will cost more but if you like your cars original then you will be happy with the R the way it is.

[nizm0zed]

I dont know your budget, but you say insurance recons they arent worth squat?

Does that potentially mean you'll be able to buy it back cheap?

 

Options i see.

1. Buy the Spirit, yea, its a lot more expensive but it would also make a better 'investment' when you bring it back with you yeh?

2. Buy your car back, strip it and race prep it, drive the Nurburgring. 

3. Buy your car back, buy the 95 or 99 model and use your original car for spares, swap the motor ect ect. once your done, sell your old one as a running car to claim back some money.

4. Buy your car back and repair it. could work out as the cheapest way out???

 

Something to consider, there is allways the chance, however remote, that you could have it stolen again.

So, whatever you do, consider upgrading the security of the car to try and prevent it from happening again.

I imagine it'd be quite devestating if you were to buy a nice example, like the spirit, then wake one morning to find it missing from the driveway.

[handsandwhich]

That's a real shame as she did look in very good original condition. It would be a sobering thought to think that even if the idiots who stole it were caught that they would get a nice little slap on the wrist and a sob story about how they have a tough life so should be let go with a warning.

 

But if you drive your car 5 kays over the limit, you are labelled a criminal and risk having your car taken off you for being so reckless. Anyways enough ranting.

 

I like the red one, still not sure on the headlights though. And since they are pretty reasonable in price, I would go the replacement route.

 

 

[dat2kman]

Dunno much about Mazda's but this model was the one that Allan Horsley here at Mazda Australia built up as a SP model, and absolutely dominated Prod Sports, it won Bathurst enduros.

I think they are a well regarded model in Aus, so, i dont get the seemingly low insured value of 5000 euro.

 

Would it be feasible to import it back, once repaired, with a view to sell it in a country that will pay more for it? Bearing in mind all costs associated

 

I do look at pretty much all things from a competition/racing/sporting point of view, which is opposite to your keep it near stock and very neat modus operandi!

Maybe cruise around the Ausrotary website see what is doing there, what demand is there for theses.

 

As above, you do know your car well, rather than buying someone elses issues, maybe stick with it.

 

Also, i dont get insurance companies these days, they are so quick to write off minor damage, there are so many recent model cars in wrecker yards, what doesnt help is the manufacturers will charge stupid markup for spare parts, based on bulk manufactured costs of parts, at time of part production.

Example, a plastic bumper for a mid 90's Ford cost Ford, some $25 each, on spares division, it is over 20 times that

Apparently it costs heaps to store things in a wharehouse.

Here is another, current hotness is compact diesel turbo engine cars? Yeah! Just wait till they start getting to 200,000 kilometres on the engines, sorry dear owner, cannot economically rebuild/repair, so its off to the scrappers.

They are not building the diesel engine to last 1 million kilometre, like old Toymotas!

Sorry to digress and rant!

 

[Scoota G]

My car was stolen 7 years before i owned it on 7/7/1990 and i still think about that fact every now and then when i jump in it. If it feels taited to you then even repaired it would play on your mind hence why most just wash their hands of a stolen/ recovered car.

[Zedman240®]

If it's an easy repair and not too costly, then I'd repair..we don't give up on loved ones so easily do we? You may not be ever be able to get rid of that feeling, but you don't want to ever sell then regret it later down the track. Bring her back to he former glory!!

[chris240]

Your a million miles from home, take the money and move on (opt 2). Ive always liked rx7 and 8s but Im not precious. If you where here amongst mates, then your fixit options may be different.

[Gordo]

Bummer Gav.It was a nice original car. As you say you like nice original cars so if you fix it , it won't be the same again. As Scoota says , deep down you will always know it was stolen and repaired, and that will always play on your mind, sorry mate but do you think you can live with that. That is the question? For me let it go. Not sure when you are coming back to Melbourne , but why not look for one here would save some coin, I'm sure there are good ones here. Drop a line on the Mazda forums, In the mean time grab the cash and buy some thing to get you buy in the mean time . Good luck with your Delma .Regards Gordon.

[KatoKid]

That really sucks Gav.

 

I'm with you.....I like my cars original. Don't get me wrong I love modified cars the more the better sometimes but I also value unmolested examples of classics or modern day classics. I also understand about the tainted feeling that comes with what happened with your car so I have to agree with Gordo, if you don't theink you can deal with it and be 100% happy with a repaired stolen car then just take the money and move on.

 

hope it works out for you.

 

David

[Cozza]

Sorry to hear that Gav. Thieves are the lowest of low, I think they should cut off their hands for punishment like they do in some countries.

As Kylie Minogue's song goes, better the devil you know, as long as you can deal with the emotional anguish.

Purchase option 1 sounds like more problems than it's worth.

And, purchase option 3 states it's a front-wheel-drive

 

So buy your car back then buy any interchangeable parts from purchase option 1 when it gets parted out.

 

It always surprises me the different value of cars in different countries. It sounds like they are less than half the cost of a fd over here. I know you can make good money on importing a TVR as well.

 

Good luck with your deliberations

 

Mick

 

 

 

[gav240z]

Firstly that sucks man, but the damage could have been far worse. The cause ain't lost!

 

Personally I would keep your car, except for the Spirit R.

 

You know your car and buying another can only mean a new set of problems to sort out. The R on the other hand could be worth the jump as it is a better marque? It will cost more but if you like your cars original then you will be happy with the R the way it is.

 

I agree if this was in Australia in my mind no doubt it would be repaired. It's just the uber shyte values of them over here. There are a lot of poor poor examples. Now that this has happened I've been looking at what's available and recall why I was so happy when I found this 1.

 

I was offered the Spirit R at 17,000 euro in 2009. That was too much for me, but given the state of the economy over here and the fact that it's still sitting about waiting for someone to enjoy her it might help get it at a steal of a price. I think I've seen some in Japan for 12,000 euro - which is excellent buying really. That's before shipping and import duties though...

 

I'm not 100% sure but apparently the Spirit R was 320HP stock but was rated at 280HP for the gentleman's agreement. There is a video on Youtube of a 1995 Type RZ (top of the line at the time) vs a 1999 Type RS (improved suspension and ducting / cooling) on a track. It's amazing how subtle changes make so much difference the Type RS absolutely dominates the Type RZ and the Spirit R is a cut above the RS. I believe the turbo's may be slightly bigger on the Spirit R (much to the same spec as the SP edition (Australia only) that dominated at Bathurst.

 

I dont know your budget, but you say insurance recons they arent worth squat?

Does that potentially mean you'll be able to buy it back cheap?

 

Options i see.

1. Buy the Spirit, yea, its a lot more expensive but it would also make a better 'investment' when you bring it back with you yeh?

2. Buy your car back, strip it and race prep it, drive the Nurburgring. 

3. Buy your car back, buy the 95 or 99 model and use your original car for spares, swap the motor ect ect. once your done, sell your old one as a running car to claim back some money.

4. Buy your car back and repair it. could work out as the cheapest way out???

 

Something to consider, there is allways the chance, however remote, that you could have it stolen again.

So, whatever you do, consider upgrading the security of the car to try and prevent it from happening again.

I imagine it'd be quite devestating if you were to buy a nice example, like the spirit, then wake one morning to find it missing from the driveway.

 

I hope to buy it back for 500 euro, but they may try initially for 1000 euro. The Apexi ECU, Koyo Radiator, 99 Spec Rear wing would sell for more than 1000 euro so it's probably a good idea to buy it back either way.

 

1. Yes the Spirit R will always hold value, provided I keep her stock (or easily changed back to stock) and look after her.

2. Very tempting, if only I

- I really like the paint job on

. Primer Grey + Orange wheels FTW! - Inspired by Stivva's build.

3. Another option - I was also thinking buy another car like the 99 and fix up the 95 and give it to my girlfriend. We both import 1 each and can sell 1 in Australia - perhaps make some money back that way? Or just enjoy owning them. - Maybe I'm being a little unrealistic though.

4. Yeah - still looking at that. I didn't want to have to fix someone else's fudge up, but in a way it would be a bold statement to have her back and running, if those thieves ever saw it, it would be a right up yours to them.

 

I'm going to fit a kick ass alarm no matter what I do. Remote start with Android phone and be able to remotely disable ignition and track it. (car that is). Doesn't matter if the alarm is expensive, it really is cheap insurance. Because even when you have insurance you can still loose money in the process as I'm finding out. I expect this whole exercise to cost me a couple of grand no matter how I look at it.

 

So my advice to everyone who doesn't yet have 1 is fit a good alarm.

 

That's a real shame as she did look in very good original condition. It would be a sobering thought to think that even if the idiots who stole it were caught that they would get a nice little slap on the wrist and a sob story about how they have a tough life so should be let go with a warning.

 

But if you drive your car 5 kays over the limit, you are labelled a criminal and risk having your car taken off you for being so reckless. Anyways enough ranting.

 

I like the red one, still not sure on the headlights though. And since they are pretty reasonable in price, I would go the replacement route.

 

 

 

Yeah trying not to think about what these punks will get as punishment. It's times like this I feel the law is too soft. It's not clear if they were caught, since the Gards (police) dusted for finger prints. Not sure why they would do that if they caught they fellas. Pretty sure they said it was in a park (grass was in rear wheel well's) so they were doing circle work no doubt. Think the Gards (cops) saw them and interrupted their tour of destruction. May have done a runner. If they didn't get interrupted I'm sure they would have lit her on fire.

 

This is basically what I expect happened to my car.

http://www.bebo.com/c/video?FlashBoxId=6211227184

http://www.bebo.com/c/video?FlashBoxId=6211269461

(see 2min mark)

 

This was another RX-7 that got nicked in Ireland and eventually lit on fire. You can see these kids are basically standing in the street getting off on it. Sadly this happens often apparently - especially with Japanese imports like Skyline's, 200sx's etc.. Seems to be their favorite type of cars.

 

I don't get the mentality....

 

Dunno much about Mazda's but this model was the one that Allan Horsley here at Mazda Australia built up as a SP model, and absolutely dominated Prod Sports, it won Bathurst enduros.

I think they are a well regarded model in Aus, so, i dont get the seemingly low insured value of 5000 euro.

 

Would it be feasible to import it back, once repaired, with a view to sell it in a country that will pay more for it? Bearing in mind all costs associated

 

I do look at pretty much all things from a competition/racing/sporting point of view, which is opposite to your keep it near stock and very neat modus operandi!

Maybe cruise around the Ausrotary website see what is doing there, what demand is there for theses.

 

As above, you do know your car well, rather than buying someone elses issues, maybe stick with it.

 

Also, i dont get insurance companies these days, they are so quick to write off minor damage, there are so many recent model cars in wrecker yards, what doesnt help is the manufacturers will charge stupid markup for spare parts, based on bulk manufactured costs of parts, at time of part production.

Example, a plastic bumper for a mid 90's Ford cost Ford, some $25 each, on spares division, it is over 20 times that

Apparently it costs heaps to store things in a wharehouse.

Here is another, current hotness is compact diesel turbo engine cars? Yeah! Just wait till they start getting to 200,000 kilometres on the engines, sorry dear owner, cannot economically rebuild/repair, so its off to the scrappers.

They are not building the diesel engine to last 1 million kilometre, like old Toymotas!

Sorry to digress and rant!

 

 

They are really well regarded in the US and Australia but in Europe they are very much a specialist car with a lot of fear surrounding ownership. Problem is idiotic owners who tamper with them and don't do things properly. Running these lean is deadly for the apex seals as you probably know and de-catting will cause boost spikes unless properly tuned afterward.

 

Coupled with poor cooling in earlier models, bad maintenance means they end up destroyed.

 

Yeah I'm sad to see her get the write off treatment, I think part of the problem is OEM parts brand new from Mazda for these is expensive. But you can get many of the parts second hand for 20% of the brand new price. If you're willing to trawl EvilBay.

 

By the way any idea how I can get footage of the SP RX-7's at Bathurst defeating the Porsches? I'd really like to see it?

 

For me the FD RX-7 is what the 240z was all about in the 70's light weight, good looks and a cool cockpit. A true drivers car like the old S30 is.

 

My car was stolen 7 years before i owned it on 7/7/1990 and i still think about that fact every now and then when i jump in it. If it feels taited to you then even repaired it would play on your mind hence why most just wash their hands of a stolen/ recovered car.

 

If I can make her better than she was before I could live with it. I don't think they had it longer than 60 mins and they certainly didn't do many kilometers in it given fuel left, I also doubt they filled her up at a GAS station . So I'm hoping mechanically she's ok. Just had a good carbon clearing. There is also a rev limiter on the ECU and there is a double-throttle for cold start to prevent over revving so perhaps they didn't beat on her cold either? Wishful thinking perhaps.

 

If I do repair her, I want to make sure the paint job is mickey mouse, and she looks a million bucks. Anything less and I would probably loose enthusiasm and sell her off.  For me I enjoy being able to polish it up and take her for a weekend drive by the coast and just enjoy having something that looks really nice as well as drives well. In fact the roads over here don't lend her to big power output stock is fast enough, I already set a target of 350HP as something that would be more than enough for me.

 

If my 240z was stolen there is no way I'd let that put me off fixing her up.

 

Bummer Gav.It was a nice original car. As you say you like nice original cars so if you fix it , it won't be the same again. As Scoota says , deep down you will always know it was stolen and repaired, and that will always play on your mind, sorry mate but do you think you can live with that. That is the question? For me let it go. Not sure when you are coming back to Melbourne , but why not look for one here would save some coin, I'm sure there are good ones here. Drop a line on the Mazda forums, In the mean time grab the cash and buy some thing to get you buy in the mean time . Good luck with your Delma .Regards Gordon.

 

They are really expensive in Australia, hence I couldn't believe it when I saw prices over here. I remember when they were new at near $80,000 AU - Seeing 1 on the road on the way to school as a 18 yr old kid in 2000 really had an impact on me. Back then I just got a 240z and loved the 240z, but the RX-7 captivated me for it's unreal performance out of the box and sexy shape.

 

Australia does have a lot of 99+ models though and they do tend to be in better condition over there given the price of them, more mature owners I guess. Although as they get cheaper expect to see quite a few junkers.

 

I also thought I would see more on the road when I was in Australia. I only saw 1 coming the opposite way to me near Brighton Baths. I was in my 240z and found it funny to see the other car I own coming the other way.

 

It might be less hassle in the end though - when you add up shipping costs etc..

 

That really sucks Gav.

 

I'm with you.....I like my cars original. Don't get me wrong I love modified cars the more the better sometimes but I also value unmolested examples of classics or modern day classics. I also understand about the tainted feeling that comes with what happened with your car so I have to agree with Gordo, if you don't theink you can deal with it and be 100% happy with a repaired stolen car then just take the money and move on.

 

hope it works out for you.

 

David

 

Yeah perhaps I should clarify, I love modifying cars within reason, but over here you see so many tacky body kits and horrible looking shagged interiors with massive gauges drilled into the dash and hideous seats.

 

Many cars have also had air-con removed and emissions controls, the problem is I plan to bring it to Australia with me and for that I need Air-Con the 240z is just too hot in summer with windows up and getting it complianced I figured would be far easier if the engine was stock or close to it. Including original cat and emissions.

 

I would love a single turbo 500HP beast, just not sure I can get it into the country and unfortunately the 500HP single turbo's either have horrible paint jobs (I saw 1 with glitter! yes glitter for a paint job) or massive wide body kits that are a acquired taste to say the least.

 

Sorry to hear that Gav. Thieves are the lowest of low, I think they should cut off their hands for punishment like they do in some countries.

As Kylie Minogue's song goes, better the devil you know, as long as you can deal with the emotional anguish.

Purchase option 1 sounds like more problems than it's worth.

And, purchase option 3 states it's a front-wheel-drive

 

So buy your car back then buy any interchangeable parts from purchase option 1 when it gets parted out.

 

It always surprises me the different value of cars in different countries. It sounds like they are less than half the cost of a fd over here. I know you can make good money on importing a TVR as well.

 

Good luck with your deliberations

 

Mick

 

 

 

 

Yeah I think if there was the possibility of loosing a hand for stealing something crimes like this would not be common. Having said that if these are just a couple of kids I wouldn't want them to really loose a hand. No matter how angry I am with them right now. Of course I realise you probably don't mean that either.

 

Actually what's interesting is that the previous owner of the car has already expressed interest in buying it back, rather than see her broken up for parts. I guess that's testament to it being a well cared for example. I'm not sure what he'll offer but it's another possibility, claim insurance + sell it back to old owner.

 

A TVR would be nice, I was looking at a TVR Sagaris but it's way out of budget and TVR's have a mixed reputation. I was also looking at a Lotus Exige, Porsche 911, Honda S2000, but I keep coming back to the FD. Just like the way it looks, it fitted my budget and I always wanted a rotary powered car. When I was 16 I was looking to get a 240z or an RX-4 coupe. Glad I got the 240z, but have always liked early rotary's and the first gen RX-7.

 

If it's an easy repair and not too costly, then I'd repair..we don't give up on loved ones so easily do we? You may not be ever be able to get rid of that feeling, but you don't want to ever sell then regret it later down the track. Bring her back to he former glory!!

 

Yeah haha, they can be like loved ones sometimes.

 

Your a million miles from home, take the money and move on (opt 2). Ive always liked rx7 and 8s but Im not precious. If you where here amongst mates, then your fixit options may be different.

 

I know, I want to be practical. I just think what a waste it would be to see her become just another wreck. In 10 years people will be restoring these like 240z's and they will be getting thin on the ground. This would be a good project for someone then and extremely rare in original condition.

 

 

I'll keep everyone updated on what I decide to do. Lots of options. It's all melting my brain box, once I've made a decision and have all the facts in front of me I think the picture will become clearer. The real shame here though is I was planning to drive her to the UK, France, Spain, Italy over summer in Europe and was working on getting her ready for the trip. Oh well, guess there's always next year, if I'm still in Europe then.

 

Think this is the longest post I've written here. Thanks for reading if you got this far .

[PZG302]

Sounds like your mind is already made up, or vey close to it.... Me, I would repair it and then get it to what you want your car to be. Easy for me to say with no emotional involvement in the car.

 

I know I was a sad panda when my 240 got written off last year, even the better half was sympathetic to me about the car. In some ways I do regret parting it out, but as it was a race car I got a very good run out of it, and I was planning on updating it anyway, my hand was forced about 12 months early, but the original plan was to try to keep it to use for hill climbs and the odd track day just to give it a thrash and have the silvia as my main race car. At least I have a few trophys and some great memories and stories of some awesome racing and brilliant trips away with some great friends for interstate races.

 

Matt

[MaygZ]

Gav,

 

I'm sorry that your girl has been violated by some roosterheads. 

 

My advice is (and whilst this advice may well sound a little flippant  - it is truly how I feel about these things) is to remember her how she was and move on.  She will never be the same for you again.  You will always find yourself wandering what else they did to her.  She has changed as a result of her trauma and so have you.  Some of the damage and the scars may not show themselves for a while, but they are there.

 

A new girl will be a fresh start; a chance to build a new and different relationship together.  Sure you wont know all the background of this new girl, but that is good for both of you.  It will be a journey of discovery together.  A chance to mold your relationship based on both your findings during this journey.

 

This new relationship will be different to the old one - it may be better - but it will be an honest and caring one.

 

Good luck

 

MaygZ

[thriller]

My advice is (and whilst this advice may well sound a little flippant  - it is truly how I feel about these things) is to remember her how she was and move on.  She will never be the same for you again.  You will always find yourself wandering what else they did to her.  She has changed as a result of her trauma and so have you.  Some of the damage and the scars may not show themselves for a while, but they are there.

 

But by the same token, the car was such a clean example that to let it get split to pieces based on (almost) nothing more than emotion would be a sadder end, having the spare parts being sold off to fix some kids thrash-sled? It was only given a good bashing for probably an hour or two and if they were trying to write it off they did a pretty bad job. Seats weren't even slashed up or anything?! Seems like rotaries love a solid limiter bash anyway.

 

I say fix it. Even then if, in the end, you just don't feel the same about it, you can import it here or something and I daresay make a tidy enough profit?

 

You seemed to have put a good bit of care into this car, so if anything, it deserves all of your love and attention to bring it back to where it was. You can't just abandon a loved one because they've been mistreated by someone else.

[gav240z]

Hi Guys,

So bit of an update, after dealing with insurance who wrote her off as repairable wreck. I bought it back from my insurance company for 750 euro.

 

Here is some posts of the work I've been doing:

http://www.irishrotary.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6540&start=60#p47199

http://www.irishrotary.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6540&start=75#p47502

 

So that leaves a couple of things to tidy up.

 

1. The dent in the roof.

2. The bent bracket where the fender joins the bumper etc..

 

A short video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBCMDARCvBI

 

You can see that Mazda actually sells these bits of steel here:

http://www.irishrotary.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6540&start=75#p47550

 

Here is a couple of questions:

 

1. Is it worth trying to panel beat this area / metal back into shape? I basically want it to all look OEM again. So you can't tell it was ever in any incident.

2. The parts car I pulled the bracket off is still sitting there. I can probably go out and get an angle grinder and hack this section out and have it welded in.

3. Here is a reference of what the area should look like:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-guvqzSJSqZA/T85y6oF9KSI/AAAAAAABDK0/WKcM26hqEFU/s640/93148223.jpg

 

I'm hoping some metal work guru's on Auszcar can guide me in the right direction here. I did a short welding course like 8-9 years ago. I'm also willing to give panel beating a try but no idea what tools I should use and techniques.

 

If I keep this car, I'm probably going to go for the 99 spec front bumper upgrade.

http://www.austautokulture.com/index.php/features/featured-cars/saxon-s-2000-mazda-rx7/

 

However it's hard to find these parts in Europe I was thinking of ordering a front nose assembly from Australia but a.) shipping might be too expensive? and b.) I can't find someone reliable - does anyone know a good rotary specialist in Australia who might be able to give me a quote on said parts + shipping to Ireland?

 

Thanks guys, anxious to get her going again but want to repair her right.

[RBZ 260]

Just saw this.

 

What a bummer but than again bargain repurchase price.

 

I was looking at buying a s6 the other day with light damage at front.

 

Found few front bars via ebay around $300 au mark. Postage my estimate at least 300-500 but get a quote from dhl.

 

Maybe worth getting a price from mazda for the bar cover.

 

Or check if any parts on ebay uk.

 

Good luck.

 

 

[gav240z]

Update

 

And I need some advice. Pretty urgently actually.

 

So I'm looking to get my FD back on the road after it was classified as a CAT C write off. I have been given (what I consider a fair) quote to do the necessary repair work and repaint the car. This quote includes the following:

 

How it sits right now.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-nFxOa6g4ANwXO0f5iN_gdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

 

The repair work would include the following:

 

1. Repair damage to front wing / bracket / mud guard area.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/KK9pL43GiBzu-zbL7yROFdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YUT2U03G8fCIRMEbdRAxR9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

 

2. Repair to dings in roof (possibly paint-less dent removal (see options below))

 

3. Engineers report to certify car is repaired to correct standard for returning to road.

 

4. Re-align all panels to get correct shut lines etc.. (pop up headlights are a prick!)

 

5. Wheel alignment - car pulls slightly to the left now.

 

Option 1. The price of a blend in paint job is €2000 euro.

 

Option 2. Paint the entire car - since blending silver is a bastard and it looks like I'll need to paint the following anyway

a. bonnet

b. bumper

c. pop up lights

d. wings

e. passenger door

 

That's nearly the entire car anyway and the paint match may not be spot on.... This would also include taking care of some surface rust that has started around the top of the rear hatch (think where S30's rust at the top of the rear hatch!). Figure it's better to treat it now before it becomes rust holes like S30's have. This is a common problem for FD's also (seen it on many of them).

 

So if I did the blend job it would be only the roof (which is slighly faded) and the rear of the car that doesn't get painted (maybe also drivers door). Car could look mismatched in certain lights, you know the type car parks, servo's at night etc..

 

Full paint job including all the above, plus removing minor dings, dents, paint chips and scratches would be €3000 euro which includes rear hatch seal (parts) and taking care of rust etc..

 

Here is my dilemma...

 

I have always planned to import the car back to Australia and I'm thinking of heading back in the next year the FD and I can't take another winter here, look at that rain and snow!

https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/SnowDublin2013?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCJzL4patxLjUeg&feat=directlink

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-SpzqsV4JV2J-WdG0P30E9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/yIkn1Q7JCKtRdYGwEGge69MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

 

I wish to import the car under the personal imports scheme.

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/vehicles/imports/import_options/pis.aspx

 

However I have no idea what the total cost will be?

 

Has anyone here been through the import process and can give me an accurate figure as to what to expect the costs to be?

 

Car will be getting imported either from Ireland or the UK (can always drive it across on a ferry).

 

Here is what I'm thinking:

 

1. If the cost of vehicle import is ridiculously high and too much hassle I may sell the FD here and just buy another in Australia (or focus on my 240z when I get back) . This means I'll still repair the FD, get it on the road etc.. but I'll do the cheaper repair option (keep the earlier bumper) and sell the later bumper I purchased which was like 800+ euro in itself!

 

2. If the cost of import means it is still cheaper than buying an FD in Australia and I at least get to have an FD to the spec I like then I will consider going the full paint job, fit the later style bumper and make her look really nice.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d141/Artistic_Surfer/99-SpecRX-7.jpg

 

So what I'm really looking for is advice in 2 areas:

 

a. Would you go full repaint?

b. Would you go through the hassle of vehicle import? If yes can you tell me what to expect and costs involved etc..?

 

By the way you can view the full album here:

 

All the work I've done

https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/Rx7StolenAndBustedUp?authuser=0&feat=directlink

 

How it was before

https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/MYFDRX7?authuser=0&feat=directlink

 

By the way the panel beater / spray painter comes highly recommended over here, here are some cars he (and his brother own the business together) have painted.

 

 

1 of them also owns this FD RX-7.

 

http://www.irishrotary.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=4049&start=15

 

So I'm hoping it would be a high quality finish.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Riceburner]

The work looks top notch! I'd say go the full respray/repair, silver can be quite hard to match so I'm told. If you go the full repair/respray but don't keep it, re-sale would have to be higher for a great looking, straight and rust free example. With the cost of everything in Aus importing could be a real option, especially for a sought after car like this.

[Fairlady Z]

Gav, Gareth is right silver is a bitch to blend/match.But if the guys say they can do it perfectly than fair enough.If u can afford it go full respray.

Just import the sucker back and enjoy it.

 

Here they are around 15-20k still. Though rough ones can be found from 7.5 to 10k.At least u know that one well.

[gav240z]

Quick update for now.

 

 

I didn't intend to take it this far in terms of doing a resto on an FD (that's what the 240z was for) but I'm glad I went full respray now. Think it's going to look amazeballs!

 

 

[gav240z]

Before

 

After

 

Transition Stage

 

Today!

 

Still some tidying up to do, but overall very happy with what I've seen so far. Going to go look at it in person tomorrow.

[Ledge]

HI Gav

My mate is a specialist builder of these rotor engines and i must admit they

blow me away with the power levels they can get from such a small motor.

I would never tell him that of coarse.

If i was ever to get an RX this would be the model.

Love it

 

Cheers

Paul

[Scottz]

Hi Gav,

 

Looks like things are working in the right direction for you.

Bit late now, but I was wondering how long you need to own the vehicle for so you can bring it to Oz as personal property and not an import (potentially for resale). This would be the key point on wether or not you buy another car. If you had bought a replacement, you may not own it for the minimum period before moving to Oz !

Anyway - it looks good now, and you know the work done. Not like buying another and wondering what work may have been done and will it cause issues down the road.

Love the paint colour.

 

Scottz

[Agno]

12 months is the minimum Scottz