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1 minute ago, gilltech said:

Ditto. Me too! Damn, maybe it's time to build myself that 6-bay garage I've always wanted. Three Zeds, three Mustangs...

I can't wan't till you have your fire sale in two years time ;D

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I can't wan't till you have your fire sale in two years time ;D

What, my Zed or my Mustang? Or both? Thanks, I'll keep you in mind Greg!

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BTW, with that Sydney car, what's with those little scoops on the 'C' pillars instead of the badges?

Red interior, nice. Looks like Globe wheels. Front strut brace. Some kind of aftermarket sports steering wheel.

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I think everyone should just relax haha. I do think a seller is within reason to sell the car for whatever price they want, they own it at the end of the day.

It's a sellers market right now making buyers pretty annoyed / stressed. I know if I was looking for a 240Z right now, I'd be frantically trying to find one and getting annoyed at missed opportunities. 

Goodluck Hayden, just remain patient, something will come up.

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Lol keep it coming, took the bait hook line and sinker. 

You guys crack me up,so butt hurt lol.

TROLLED Again.

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Sorry gilltech

 

I didnt understand,  please spend all evening  tomorrow  replying, TROLLED 

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23 hours ago, Hayden said:

Lol keep it coming, took the bait hook line and sinker. 

You guys crack me up,so butt hurt lol.

TROLLED Again.

On behalf of the group, it's been fun ;D Happy to play tennis anytime you're free for a game..

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Perhaps before we close on this trolling post 'Looking for a Z project' we should hold a vote on his percentage chance of actually getting what he wants given the limitations already discussed. I would suggest low single digits.

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9 hours ago, gilltech said:

I would suggest low single digits.

 

5 hours ago, AndBir said:

Buckley & Nunn 

I feel you're both being quiet generous on the likelihood.

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On 8/6/2020 at 6:19 PM, Hayden said:

Yep still up he is closing the sale at 9 tonight.

He has had 60 people come to visit today and over 300 call's.  He got back to me and said he is conducting an auction. The highest 10 bidders he will call again in an hour and after that the highest bidder takes it.

Its at 9500k at the moment howerver im sure it will go for way more than it is worth.

Smart seller,he will get people to pay more this way however its dirty as. Im almost going to put in a stupid high price to win it and then decline the sale later. Dirty seller.

 

Supply & demand! Ever heard of it?? (probably not) But you did say "A vehicle is only worth what someone is willing to pay at the time" so if it's more than you can afford, you're best off looking for a KE70 Corolla or Gemini before prices sky rocket mate & leave the Z's to those with deeper pockets & not tight arses !

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i bought 240z from cliff a member from this forum, he is a nice bloke.

so its not that i cant afford one i just cant justify spending that much on a datto they just are not worth it.

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4 minutes ago, Hayden said:

Hi 240zrcocksmoker

Looks like another keyboard warrior!

I couldn't understand you 240zr is sounds like you have a mouth full of cock while you are speaking can ya retype that please.

Make it at least 3 pages and really explain how you feel cock smoker.write it all down pour ya heart out.

Oh remember its just a shitty datsun. I really dont see the value, just want one to cut up and butcher, i have found one for 25k with hardly any rust might suit but 25k for a datsun just feels like im being ripped off.datsuns are like assholes everyone has one and some have 2 or 3 of em. 

Pot calling the kettle black ! 

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Well Hayden I’m glad you have purchased a car. Hope you take the opportunity to learn from this community,  contributing constructively seeking advice when required and passing on your experience in a friendly modest and thoughtful way. Enjoy the journey. 

Jeff

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On 8/6/2020 at 8:35 PM, Hayden said:

Greg

The answer is no.

You wont have the money to buy another car.

Infact you will try and offload the cars you have but noone will buy. 

I understand there is a lot of economic forecasts at the moment claiming it's the end of times. Covid-19 has obviously brought to light a lot of problems in Global Markets. The housing markets and the volume of debt in them does seem to be a problem. But I think the biggest difference between the vintage car market and housing market is that in order to buy a house most people need a mortgage (a sizeable 1) and so when they lose their jobs they can be forced to sell at the market value (in a real estate market crash there is a limited pool of buyers).

However with vintage cars, a bank is unlikely to give you a loan to purchase a vintage car, unlike a modern car from a dealer where they are willing to extend finance. This is because it's easy for the bank to see the market value of a new vehicle and the loan against it  Where as for vintage cars (especially a project car like the rusty car in Sydney) no bank wants to lend on something like that, since their analysts have no idea as to it's market value.

So in order to purchase such vehicles you need pocket money, and therefore you're not on the hook to a bank etc.. should the market turn down. I think that's 1 key difference between vintage cars and the housing market.

Now will some be forced to sell assets if they have over extended themselves? Investment property loan gone sour or the like? Sure they might liquidate the classic car etc.. and you may find a cheap deal.

But we have just had the largest economic downturn in 100 years and the demand for a rusty bucket like that 73 240z on eBay is still through the roof! Which surprises me, but then again if you look at the wider Japanese classic car market everything has skyrocketed. And Covid-19 lockdowns means that people are looking for a hobby to do at home. So that's driving demand for project cars.

FWIW I recall when Mazda R100's were selling for $20k+ in similar condition not long ago, there was a lot of gnashing of teeth and complaining. But R100s have been selling for 6 figures for years now and prices haven't crashed. I think 240z/260z's have finally been recognised after spending many years undervalued, which at least means more support from the aftermarket for parts etc..

It should be noted that sometimes classic car values drop and it's often driven by demographic shifts. 50's cars have been in decline for a few years now, because the demographic (Silent Generation) who was into them have been dying off. The thing with S30Z's though is that they were always a Boomer favorite, but Gen X grew up buying them for cheap in the 80s/90s on the second hand market. I was an early Gen Y (tail end of Gen X) and bought 1 cheap in the late 90s and the newer Generations seem to love the S30z as much as all the generations prior. That's the thing with these cars they tend to transcend generations due to popular cultural references, video games, car restoration programs, the thriving culture of 90s performance Japanese cars (which has drawn people to look to the past), the hype around Fast and the Furious franchise (with a focus on GTRs etc..) but you'll note the older C10 GTR values are  starting at $200-$300k+ along with the PS30 (Z432)'s in a similar price bracket (and 432-Rs in the $1M range if they ever sell or come to market).

There just is not many cars left anymore, and by putting together the HS30 registry and data, along with the photo albums of what's around still. I'm hoping others can get a clearer picture of why the market is being driven up.

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3 minutes ago, C.A.F. said:

I just want Milk that tastes like real Milk. 

Better get a Cow..........

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47 minutes ago, gav240z said:

However with vintage cars, a bank is unlikely to give you a loan to purchase a vintage car, unlike a modern car from a dealer where they are willing to extend finance. This is because it's easy for the bank to see the market value of a new vehicle and the loan against it  Where as for vintage cars (especially a project car like the rusty car in Sydney) no bank wants to lend on something like that, since their analysts have no idea as to it's market value.

So in order to purchase such vehicles you need pocket money, and therefore you're not on the hook to a bank etc.. should the market turn down. I think that's 1 key difference between vintage cars and the housing market.

Now will some be forced to sell assets if they have over extended themselves? Investment property loan gone sour or the like? Sure they might liquidate the classic car etc.. and you may find a cheap deal.

But we have just had the largest economic downturn in 100 years and the demand for a rusty bucket like that 73 240z on eBay is still through the roof! Which surprises me, but then again if you look at the wider Japanese classic car market everything has skyrocketed. And Covid-19 lockdowns means that people are looking for a hobby to do at home. So that's driving demand for project cars.

Thats the key there people will be offloading posessions like cars, and sure those people needing a bank loan wont get for a classic car.However gav i dont need a bank loan i have the cash,just really dont see the value in over priced datsuns.im keen for a cheap project car to havk up etc but ill never see a huge worth in a datsun especially as they are a mass produced car and found all over the globe in large numbers.

People will no longer be able to afford hobboes gav so they will be selling those off also.

No job = no money mate no matter how you look at it and a car that is not practical will be sold cheap as people will need the money.

They call it an upturn for a reason, because on the flipside there will be a down turn andnif you follow the trends you will see Australia is in a really bad state as we relied way too much on china and if they drop 5percent we automatically drop 2.5 percent that was before they stopped trade.

Ill wait till then to buy a few if i dont buy a mustang. 

Thats if money is worth anything or if you can afford to fuel ya car lol.

Tough times ahead 

So sell ya dattos to me cheap now lol.

 

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1 hour ago, Hayden said:

Hi 240zrcorksmoker

Looks like another keyboard warrior!

I missed this post before my reply, I have to be honest it's been a while since we've had someone so hostile on this forum. I suggest having a read of this.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/francesbridges/2018/02/07/10-ways-to-make-people-like-you-from-how-to-make-friends-and-influence-people/#6bfdf09d4bb4

I would refrain from anymore ad hominem attacks, we are all for lively debate as you can see, and we could all turn blue debating if an old Datsun should be worth anything and which way the global economy will go. But there is no need to get personal or drag the overall standard of the community, it's members and postings to the gutter. I'm sure there is many more places on the Internet that would cater to those needs.

So keep it clean or you'll get a temporary holiday, keep it up and you'll get the ban hammer.

 

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23 minutes ago, Hayden said:

So sell ya dattos to me cheap now lol.

Frankly at this point I'd rather burn them to the ground and make you watch.

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Hey gav

Frankly Gav you can eat my ass out 

be my guest burn ya datto to the ground ill pour a scotch and watch ya.

I wouldent care less, like i said they are worthless to me i dont see the dollar value in them, i was just after a cheap hack about to hack up and modify for fun.i have one that i was going to keep all original however ill use it now as im not spending more than 10k on a shatto.

I bought one from cliff for 6k with little rust which is what they are worth and not a cent more.

Thats all dattos are cheap little inexpensive  mass produced cars and its all they ever will be they are nothing special although people on this forum act as though they are gold lol.

They are simply just cheap cars for the average joe to burn around in nothing more.

If ya nice before i hack it up ill sell it to you for oh wait 50k lol ,its a 10k car all day long.

If i dont remove my stuff from this pitiful site please remove the rest.

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