MickieB Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Someone on here needs to buy that car so the bogans don't turn it into a burnout car. Quote
FuzzyDropbear Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Looks like it's time to remortgage the house..... Love that intake manifold http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Datsun-260z-Race-Car-SC-Sports-1974-2D-Coupe-5-SP-Manual-2-6L-Twin-Carb-/180937073338?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item2a20b0a2ba Quote
KatoKid Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Geeze...I cant believe how much guys ask for these race cars. Do they ever get this sort of money or is it wishful thinking? No discredit to the ppls concerned but race cars are generally pretty rough. Quote
Agno Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 It has been covered earlier. The paint might not be great but you can be sure that most of those race cars have rust free bodies and some very nice (and very expensive) "add ons" to go with them. You are also paying extra for a car that is proven to be fast and competitive in the category it races in. Quote
Riceburner Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 I think a log booked car is more desireable, not sure why. An enclosed tilting trailor would be close to 10k new depending on the quality and spec. It seems in really good condition and most mods like cage are removeable, with some more details about brakes/suspension I'd say it's a good deal if your looking to race regularly. Not sure how it would go noise wise on the nanny state race tracks with that side exit exhaust. Quote
PZG302 Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Geeze...I cant believe how much guys ask for these race cars. Do they ever get this sort of money or is it wishful thinking? No discredit to the ppls concerned but race cars are generally pretty rough. I know that car and it is worth every cent with the package offered. A fully enclosed trailer is about 8-10k second hand. The stuff that is on the car is top spec and one the best engine builders for L series motors in Sydney screwed that motor together, so I would guess the original build would have been in the 10k plus region. With Sc the suspension is expensive because of the rules, no coil overs allowed, will have struts and a lot of work done to inserts and arms to get it to work. The body is in very good condition, if it is the car I am thinking of, it was built in Qld at no expense spared and was mentally quick. The car woulld have cost at least 50-60k to build by a workshop so he is still dropping a bucket load of money, and yes he will get close to if not the asking price fo that car. Before my car was bent, if I sold it the asking price would have been a very fair mid 20k, yoou couldn't build a car to the category rules and go faster for anywhere near that coin. One big problem is that there are plenty of track cars around, but they can't be used in any proper racing because they don't comply to any category, and to build a car that is quick and complies will cost a lot moore than throwing a big HP RB in the hole and some monster wings front and back to hold it to the ground. Quote
luvemfast Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I think for the money, it looks like a pretty good deal. But I'm more interested in that carby set-up. Why stick with twin carb and not go triples? And whats the go with that inlet manifold? Looks like a modified EFI unit. Quote
PZG302 Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I think for the money, it looks like a pretty good deal. But I'm more interested in that carby set-up. Why stick with twin carb and not go triples? And whats the go with that inlet manifold? Looks like a modified EFI unit. Not allowed to go triples for Sc, so twin hitachis it is. Manifold is freeish, got to be period IIRC. Hence race car = expensive because to get fasts legally (within category rules) costs more than what a car used for track days can bolt on cheaply with no regard for rules. Quote
luvemfast Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Not allowed to go triples for Sc, so twin hitachis it is. Manifold is freeish, got to be period IIRC. Hence race car = expensive because to get fasts legally (within category rules) costs more than what a car used for track days can bolt on cheaply with no regard for rules. So why is it that group Sc cannot use triple Mikuni's? *Creeeeeek* (Pandora's box opening) Available in S30 cars from factory, re 432. Or did it have to be a factory supplied item in Australia. Quote
1600dave Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Available in S30 cars from factory, re 432. Not on an L26 though. You don't get the opportunity to "mix'n'match' bits off different variants of a model, it is "Production Sports" and there are very few deviations allowed from "Production" specifications. I'm currently researching Datsun Fairlady's to build an Sb racer and can't, for instance, use the 5 speed box from the 2 litre Fairlady behind my 1600 engine. It has to be a 4 speed because that's what came in 1600-engined fairlady's. Gearbox internals are free (but must retain the same number of gears), so if I want to upgrade the gearbox, my only option is to get close ratio 4 speed internals made up at a cost of quite a few thousand. For a road or trackday car, I'd throw in a 240Z / 260Z 5 speed with a diesel bellhousing at a cost of a few hundred and be done with it. To get a car going fast within the rules of Sc is harder / more expensive than something that doesn't have restrictive rules to conform with. It is that restricted for example that CAMS spec sheets specifically ban genuine British SU's for a 260Z - they must be Hitachi's. The only relaxation is that you can apparently use earlier 240Z Hitachi's on a 260Z. Quote
Moderators Zedman240® Posted July 27, 2012 Moderators Posted July 27, 2012 Simon, that is the exact thing Jason and alot of the guys that are racing zeds are fighting for in group Sc. Big MK63 calipers, triples and body improvements are just a few things.. Quote
thriller Posted July 29, 2012 Posted July 29, 2012 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Datsun-240z-Sports-1973-2D-Coupe-5-SP-Manual-2-4L-Twin-Carb-/200799537124?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item2ec095c7e4 No sunroof, looks reasonably straight too... Quote
Scoota G Posted July 29, 2012 Posted July 29, 2012 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Datsun-240z-Sports-1973-2D-Coupe-5-SP-Manual-2-4L-Twin-Carb-/200799537124?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item2ec095c7e4 No sunroof, looks reasonably straight too... I like it when people have the Balls to list a car like this on .99 Cents no reserve! Quote
Scoota G Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 Gawd they are cheap over in the states. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Datsun-Z-Series-PRINCESS-PROTOTYPE-FAIRLADY-/170888714325?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item27c9c2d855 Quote
Jz260 Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=13114458 Quote
Jinxed Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/yokine/cars/1975-datsun-260z-coupe/1005360595 really cheap and pretty good looking yellow seater in WA..... Quote
saxon Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/yokine/cars/1975-datsun-260z-coupe/1005360595 really cheap and pretty good looking yellow seater in WA..... yellow seater? like it only seats asians? Jokes aside that is a 2+2 not a coupe. Quote
FuzzyDropbear Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 yellow seater? like it only seats asians? Jokes aside that is a 2+2 not a coupe. Actually, technically it is a coupe. The difference is it's a 2+2 coupe, instead of a 2 seater coupe. There's some other defining feature than 2 doors, something to do with interior space or whatnot that defines a coupe'. Someone else may be able to remember the proper definition. On a side note, does anyone know why there's been a sudden jump in the prices being asked for 2+2's? Especially on carsales, it's as if one person posted $15,000 and now everyone's getting on the bandwagon... Quote
thriller Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 Actually, technically it is a coupe. The difference is it's a 2+2 coupe, instead of a 2 seater coupe. There's some other defining feature than 2 doors, something to do with interior space or whatnot that defines a coupe'. Someone else may be able to remember the proper definition. I think generally speaking, it's the lack of a proper, solid B-pillar. So I guess it can technically be a 4-door. But nowadays, anything with two doors and a tin top is a coupe I'd say. I'd hazard a guess that, 2+2 sellers see the 2 seaters asking a lot, saying 'hey mine is the same' and then putting their asking price at a similar point. And honestly, other than the enthusiasts, most people won't know if a car is a 2+2 or a 2 when they see one. Quote
saxon Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 I always thought coupe is a very loose term with no standard definition and when it came to 260z, assumed coupe refered to the 2 seater version. Am happy to stand corrected, as I usually get it wrong when it comes to cars Quote
Gordo Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 Yes both are Coupes. One is a two seater, and one is 2+2. I think the two doors defines a coupe. The Holden Manaro is. Coupe with 4 seats. The Ford XB , XC two door coupes with 2 front seats and 3 in the back. All the American cars with 2 doors are coupes. Quote
Jinxed Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 lol i meant to put yellow 4 seater.....but left out the 4....fail. Quote
saxon Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 I still think I'm right. Yes technically both could be called coupe's but coupe is a very loose term. I think with 260s it is used as a term to differentiate 2 seat from the 2+2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_S30 ctrl+F "coupe", each time it is referring specifically to the 2 seater to differentiate it from the 2+2. Search this site for coupe and you will read things like: "Once i got there, i found out it was a coupe, not a 2+2 like i was expecting." More evidence: http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/thread29015.html Quote
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