Administrators gav240z Posted May 24, 2018 Administrators Share Posted May 24, 2018 Ok my assumption was that someone had silk screened the face to reproduce the look. The little light globe condoms also made me think it wasn't an OEM production, but I've seen a couple of versions like you say. So I guess it's a gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_L26 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 That's because it was designed and engineered to be part of the factory Sport/Race Option 'Orange Box' CD Ignitor, coil and distributor: Is this what the mystery Mitsubishi distributor was a part of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted May 25, 2018 Administrators Share Posted May 25, 2018 Is this what the mystery Mitsubishi distributor was a part of? No, to try and pre-empt an answer from Alan here, lots of automotive manufacturers use components from various third party companies when making cars. For example my FD RX-7 cluster is made by Kanto Seiki who also did instruments on the S30Z series (and our washer bottles). I suspect Mitsubishi was into making components like this for a long while when Nissan decided to contract them for specialist parts and a lot of this stuff is very early 70s components. The later Mitsubishi distributors (like these) I believe were found on later L28's in Japan such as Laurel's and S130Z's and other sedan's with L28's fitted and were much later cars (late 70s). I'm sure there is design similarities between them, but they are not directly related. As a side note I like the later Mitsubishi Distributors because their engineering quality seems to be above the earlier style E12 model Hitachi ones you commonly find on L28's here (280zx) with their plastic ball bearing cages (as part of the vacuum advance assembly) that often break and then you fail to have vacuum advance work. Remember early S30Z's used points based ignition systems and electronic was pretty exotic for the early 70s and since these were Sports Options parts carried a high premium in terms of price. Alan has informed me that there is quite a few variations of these electronic sports option components, for example works rally cars had the white box with a military canon style plug, I've never seen these mind you... I've saved some images here of various "special" gauges I've seen - and some of these are Alan's photos. https://goo.gl/photos/xyGbDP1QvpVA87bK7 NB: Some tach's stopped at 8k rpm and others at 10k rpm. Andrew_L26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS30-H Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Alan has informed me that there is quite a few variations of these electronic sports option components, for example works rally cars had the white box with a military canon style plug, I've never seen these mind you... Point of order: The cream/white Mitsubishi Ignitor was most often used by the Works team on their circuit race cars. The Works rally 240Zs on the other hand used a small CDI unit secreted under the dashboard (on the mount used by the 432s/432-Rs) as electronic ignition was technically illegal in the classes they most often ran in. Mitsubishi 'White Box' works CDI with Cannon connector for your collection: Ponyo240z and gav240z 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted May 25, 2018 Administrators Share Posted May 25, 2018 Thanks Alan, have done that. I assume that mounting location is above the rally clock oscillator? As seen here, photos taken from PS30 00166 https://photos.app.goo.gl/QwjXY649pdEvg8vA3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted May 29, 2018 Administrators Share Posted May 29, 2018 240z Dashboard with Ashley at Moorabbin Auto Spares. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/240z-zed-datsun-nissan-genuine-dash-board-rare-needs-reskinning/113004404957 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted June 3, 2018 Administrators Share Posted June 3, 2018 Mach steering wheel, might be useful for S54B owners? https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q212780055 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted June 4, 2018 Administrators Share Posted June 4, 2018 Rally Clock (twin knob) https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b313491609 Someone has modified the wiring loom... I suspect it may not be working. Current price: 78,000 yen OdinZ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted June 10, 2018 Administrators Share Posted June 10, 2018 Parts Manuals! In good shape too! R-Drive https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1660785649&member_hash=7c982e0bdc2fcbd8c2c27bdf1cc436f59983e2800dd44aad89&tm=email&et=46&mt=7F1F0D31-C106-4483-BC9A-C7464ADF110F L-Drive https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1660789359&member_hash=7c982e0bdc2fcbd8c2c27bdf1cc436f59983e2800dd44aad89&tm=email&et=46&mt=7F1F0D31-C106-4483-BC9A-C7464ADF110F Seller has other useful parts too! https://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=568071 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PB260Z Posted June 10, 2018 Moderators Share Posted June 10, 2018 Hi if you read through these, you amy find the answer to some of those questions about change points. ie : Hatch Vents, may say up to #00500 or similar. I know from modern experience that there are often running changes to a model and there is usually a clear change point based on VIN. a modern example is Toyota 70 Series V8 Cruisers. Mid 2017 on have a very different set of gear ratios and it makes a HUGE difference to the how the truck drives - but to look at the truck there is no visable difference. Cheers PB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted June 10, 2018 Administrators Share Posted June 10, 2018 Yes these are helpful, I have the R version in hardcopy and digital formats. So I often reference them. Which is why I tell people to look at these cars as an S30z series with incremental changes over time, rather than reference things as say "260z tail lamps", "260z flat tops" etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted June 13, 2018 Administrators Share Posted June 13, 2018 Well that was unexpected.. 493,000 yen. Must have been the Real McCoy perhaps? https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v559621653 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdinZ Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 LD28 Crank https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o242832320 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GongZ Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 S20 engine - starting bid 5,800,000 yen (less than AU$70,000!) https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n268416906 OdinZ and George 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP260 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Howdy all, Regarding Yahoo japan items. What proxy bidding services are people using ? . I have used FromJapan in the past, but that was for watches. Cheers, Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdinZ Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, RAP260 said: Howdy all, Regarding Yahoo japan items. What proxy bidding services are people using ? . I have used FromJapan in the past, but that was for watches. Cheers, Rob I havent won anything yet, but have been bidding using Buyee. There is a whole thread about your options though RAP260 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP260 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Ahhh, that topic that's pinned below this one?.. Lol. Cheers OdinZ. OdinZ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdinZ Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 59 minutes ago, RAP260 said: Ahhh, that topic that's pinned below this one?.. Lol. Cheers OdinZ. that's the one, no worries. So I assume you are going to place a bid on the S20 then!? gav240z and RAP260 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP260 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 hours ago, OdinZ said: that's the one, no worries. So I assume you are going to place a bid on the S20 then!? Nah, there's only one of them. I need a matching pair... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtv240z Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 11 hours ago, gav240z said: Well that was unexpected.. 493,000 yen. Must have been the Real McCoy perhaps? https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v559621653 Wow! What's the story with this one!? What is it and why the price tag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted June 14, 2018 Administrators Share Posted June 14, 2018 It's a "ura" Mach Wheel, which was a sports option part. Often seen in Z432-R's. I was watching it last night when it was priced around $900 USD, I don't know if it actually sold at that price. Or if it's real or a clone/reproduction? The hub kit with horn assembly is around $300 USD on it's own (reproduction). It's possible it didn't meet reserve and I've noticed Yahoo! Auctions sometimes shows the price after auction as the reserve price (or some inflated buy it now price). However these have been changing hands many years ago for $3000 or so.. (originals) but reproductions have since become available. I've got a black reproduction. Still need to get the Hub assembly and horn for it. RAP260, Gtv240z and OdinZ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtv240z Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 14 hours ago, gav240z said: It's a "ura" Mach Wheel, which was a sports option part. Often seen in Z432-R's. I was watching it last night when it was priced around $900 USD, I don't know if it actually sold at that price. Or if it's real or a clone/reproduction? The hub kit with horn assembly is around $300 USD on it's own (reproduction). It's possible it didn't meet reserve and I've noticed Yahoo! Auctions sometimes shows the price after auction as the reserve price (or some inflated buy it now price). However these have been changing hands many years ago for $3000 or so.. (originals) but reproductions have since become available. I've got a black reproduction. Still need to get the Hub assembly and horn for it. Do I spy a Weber carburettor?? I have heard these could be supplied through Nissan competition but could never confirm online with a parts catalogue or even better with part numbers... Was this the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted June 15, 2018 Administrators Share Posted June 15, 2018 Yes Webers were an optional part for S20 engined cars. I believe you would need a parts catalogue for the GTR's or PS30's to see it though. I was trying to find it last night. @HS30-H can no doubt confirm as I believe he runs them on his S20 powered car Gtv240z 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riceburner Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 20 hours ago, gav240z said: It's a "ura" Mach Wheel, which was a sports option part. Often seen in Z432-R's. I was watching it last night when it was priced around $900 USD, I don't know if it actually sold at that price. Or if it's real or a clone/reproduction? The hub kit with horn assembly is around $300 USD on it's own (reproduction). It's possible it didn't meet reserve and I've noticed Yahoo! Auctions sometimes shows the price after auction as the reserve price (or some inflated buy it now price). However these have been changing hands many years ago for $3000 or so.. (originals) but reproductions have since become available. I've got a black reproduction. Still need to get the Hub assembly and horn for it. It looks very similar to my one. The only difference I can see is the horn retaining plate has two screw holes and not four. RS Mach were only doing a limited 10 piece re-run of the ‘ura’. All sold out before we got ours. So many great parts, so little money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS30-H Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 7 hours ago, gav240z said: Yes Webers were an optional part for S20 engined cars. I believe you would need a parts catalogue for the GTR's or PS30's to see it though. I was trying to find it last night. @HS30-H can no doubt confirm as I believe he runs them on his S20 powered car They were not generally listed in the actual Race/Sports Option catalogues, but Nissan Sports listed the 45DCOE-9 as a Race Option part for the S20 engine in their yellow 'Race & Rally Manual' preparation booklets. The 45DCOE-9 had the part number 16010-A0220 and could be ordered through one of the Nissan Sports-affiliated dealerships in Japan. Apparently the characteristics of the Weber accelerator pump system (the rod-operated downward-pushing piston) was favoured for the S20 in tuned form. Nissan's works teams used them on their race cars just before they went to sliding throttle mechanical injection. I don't think I've ever seen Webers listed by Nissan for the L6-engined cars. Gtv240z and gav240z 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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