Early Girl Bingo - With Photos

[GongZ]

HS30 00971 has been under my nose for over 17 years! My dad had a collection of old car magazines I acquired many many years ago now. I got rid of a lot of them, except the ones that contained S30Z's.

 

Anyway1 magazine from 1985 had this UK specification 240z in it. Which I always thought looked great with the D caps

 

Here is another photo of that car for your collection. (Scanned from the 'Datsun 240Z/260Z/280Z Super Profile' book by James Morris as shown in your first photo)

 

 

At the time of publication it was owned by Lynne Godber, the then president of The Z Club (UK).

[gav240z]

This information pertains to HLS30's.

 

Posted originally by Phil Ray here.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/121977164809467/535358156804697/

 

Shows how rare certain combinations are, Blue on Blue being 1 of the rarest. 

 

Now I want that combo even more.

Color Combinations.pdf

[gav240z]

HS30 00843

 

Whoever owned this parts manual possibly also owned this car.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-240Z-260Z-Datsun-parts-catalog-S30-/132356474837

 

[ackent1]

 

Gav

Picked up another series one today #343

Unsure of it's fate as yet, straight but fairly rusty, may become a donor car for some of the bits my #330 is missing.

 

Cheers Adrian

[gav240z]

Love it, looks pretty original. Save it if possible. Where did you find her?

 

What was it's original colour? HS30 00340 was 920 Safari Gold.

 

I assume this car was maybe same, hence the repaint?

 

My first ride in a 240z was in a similar Burgundy / Wine red with an L28 in it. I think it was a 73 240z though, wonder where it is now?

 

 

PS: Looks like another Victim of "it's a tarp!"

 

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-a-trap

 

[Brabham]

It must be saved!

[ackent1]

Spot on Gav, it was under a tarp in Hurstbridge, it a gold/ yellow colour, haven't checked it out properly yet.

I will have a closer look tomorrow, i have a bit of a collection going on now may need to extend the shed.

[gav240z]

Anyone know where this car went to?

https://www.shannons.com.au/auctions/2010-shannons-melbourne-winter-classic-auction/G6IC56C53DWJA4MF/

 

Looks like it was originally 903 Blue and a late 71.

 

L24-067113

 

Would put the VIN # between: HS30 01510 and HS30 01950.

 

It has the later style console, which happened in very late 71.

[C.A.R.]

HS30-00060 is in Melbourne. It's been fully restored and is nearly back on the road.

 

 

Edited November 19, 2017 by Lurch ™

[gav240z]

Is it Safari Gold 920? Nice car.

 

Edit yes it was originally.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ribongiG0tNatmgt1

[GongZ]

1294 is currently for sale on Gumtree

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/1166216251?utm_source=trigger&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=saved_search_instant

[HomeBuiltByJeff]

Out of interest. Does anyone know the number of the last Australian series 1. My car is a '71 HS30-01510, but I don't believe any of the removable panels on the car are original anyway so no idea if it should have the hatch vents. I don't think my car is early enough, but if it is then I will reinstate them.

Where do the early girls end and the not so early begin?

[gav240z]

In a rush, but the series 1 vs series 2 nomenclature is rubbery at best. Your car is a 71 and didn't have the vents in the hatch.

 

For Australian market cars the vents in the hatch ended with HS30 00500. Cars up until that no. had the vents in the hatch and sold 1/4 panels.

[Cozza]

Out of interest. Does anyone know the number of the last Australian series 1. My car is a '71 HS30-01510, but I don't believe any of the removable panels on the car are original anyway so no idea if it should have the hatch vents. I don't think my car is early enough, but if it is then I will reinstate them.

Where do the early girls end and the not so early begin?

Should have asked Mrs Jeff, she’s pretty good on Datsun trivia ?

[gav240z]

HS30 00946 is different.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/y2vOXGRxguL2yZ0m1

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/740335446098903/permalink/1212430325556077/

[Matt100]

Hello all from a new member. To add to early car bingo, I have had HS30 00100 sitting in my shed in country WA since 1992. I purchased this as a fully restored rolling shell less engine and trans, as a young 25 year old with big ideas to go veteran racing. I owned, and still do, a 1973 240Z which was my then daily driver. When purchased, the bloke had spent big $$ to have it restored, no body fillers allowed. He imported a brand new bonnet and both front guards as well. It was/is primed in a parraffinc based rust underbody sealer with all other bits plus many extras in boxes. Has been dry stored in my shed since.

[gav240z]

Thanks Marty, what a treasure! It looks like 905 red was the original colour? Interesting that it has a 260z dashboard but early steering wheel and console!

 

Your engine number is very interesting it's L24 - 008663.

 

My car HS30 00051 has L24 - 011436.

 

So I wonder if your car was held up for some time during production? Maybe pulled aside for QA reasons?

 

For example:

 

HS30-00016 had L24-006777 

HS30-00019 has L24-007818

HS30 00030 had L24-009937

 

and later cars.

 

HS30-00051 has L24-011436

HS30-00060 = L24-012461

HS30-00063 = L24-011644

HS30-00068  = L24-011483

HS30-00084 = L24-013021

HS30-00086 = L24-013104

 

and HS30-00117 = L24-015308

 

So it looks like your car may have been made earlier and waited...

 

Do you have any photos of the original L24 block and it's engine stamping? Is it an E31 block or a P30 block?

[Matt100]

Unfortunately, when i purchased this in 1992, it was minus engine and gearbox. He had already sold that to pay the body bill i think from memory. As per the dash, i will have to troll thru the boxes. The written list of parts that came with it says it has a spare dash frame and all fittings. Maybe the spare is the one fitted and not original which would explain the Fairlady Z as per photo attached

[gav240z]

Yeah that's not the dashboard that came with the car. Fairlady Z dash would have come from a 74+ Fairlady Z - home market car from Japan.

[Matt100]

Gav, as a matter of interest to you and the rest, I'll post some info/pics of my 1973 Z. Was purchased in 1991 from Redfern?? Sydney by myself (long time ago) unlicensed. Did some work in a mates back yard, pink slip it or whatever it was, reg and drove it home to WA via a couple of laps at Bathurst. Got many strange looks on the Nullarbor I remember. Engine was rebuilt with lots of go fast bits in 97, with Wolf Digital EFI injection by a Z car nut mechenic I had come across. (350hp @7500rpm). This has been parked since Dec 98

[GregTas]

Those throttle bodies would have been pretty trick back in '97

[C.A.R.]

Engine was rebuilt with lots of go fast bits in 97, with Wolf Digital EFI injection by a Z car nut mechenic I had come across. (350hp @7500rpm). 

 

Don't take this the wrong way new guy, but no - no it didn't.

[HS30-H]

Your engine number is very interesting it's L24 - 008663.

 

My car HS30 00051 has L24 - 011436.

 

So I wonder if your car was held up for some time during production? Maybe pulled aside for QA reasons?

 

For example:

 

HS30-00016 had L24-006777 

HS30-00019 has L24-007818

HS30 00030 had L24-009937

 

and later cars.

 

HS30-00051 has L24-011436

HS30-00060 = L24-012461

HS30-00063 = L24-011644

HS30-00068  = L24-011483

HS30-00084 = L24-013021

HS30-00086 = L24-013104

 

and HS30-00117 = L24-015308

 

So it looks like your car may have been made earlier and waited...

 

That doesn't quite make sense, considering the numbering. Bodyshells going through the system at Hiratsuka had their prefix and body serial number combo engraved on the firewall before they were painted, and were done in logical and orderly sequence. The engines and the rest of the drivetrain were added after that, with the engine bay tag stamped to suit the engine's block number.

 

The only reason we see a pattern relating to engine numbers and body serial numbers is that the process of building the major components and then putting them all together averaged out - once things had got up and running properly - over Nissan Shatai's maximum production capacity.

 

In this particular car's case, it seems to me that it was more likely the engine block or engine itself that was 'late' to the production line. In the normal scheme of things, it should probably have been in an earlier car. This seems to indicate that it may have been held up for some reason between having its engine number stamped (the engine number wasn't stamped on a block until a certain stage of completion...) and being installed in a car, possibly after being 'lost' in the system (the engines were not made at Nissan Shatai) or maybe even 'sent back' to Atsugi for rectification?

[gav240z]

Gav, as a matter of interest to you and the rest, I'll post some info/pics of my 1973 Z. Was purchased in 1991 from Redfern?? Sydney by myself (long time ago) unlicensed. Did some work in a mates back yard, pink slip it or whatever it was, reg and drove it home to WA via a couple of laps at Bathurst. Got many strange looks on the Nullarbor I remember. Engine was rebuilt with lots of go fast bits in 97, with Wolf Digital EFI injection by a Z car nut mechenic I had come across. (350hp @7500rpm). This has been parked since Dec 98.

 

Redfern would have been quite rough back then! Yep it's a pink slip you would have needed to register it. But heading to Bathurst is like a 4 hour diversion. I can imagine it would have been quite a drive along the Nullarbor.

 

Shame about the roof. At least it looks rust free.

 

I'm guessing chassis code is HS30 102262? In which case I'm guessing body colour is 110 red?

[gav240z]

In this particular car's case, it seems to me that it was more likely the engine block or engine itself that was 'late' to the production line. In the normal scheme of things, it should probably have been in an earlier car. This seems to indicate that it may have been held up for some reason between having its engine number stamped (the engine number wasn't stamped on a block until a certain stage of completion...) and being installed in a car, possibly after being 'lost' in the system (the engines were not made at Nissan Shatai) or maybe even 'sent back' to Atsugi for rectification?

 

Interesting, and that would make sense. So far these kinds of things haven't come up much in the data I've collected. But good to make note of them all the same.