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I recently posted this on George's build thread (sorry George).
http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/48409-hs30-00019/?p=474898

But it got me thinking about trying to get photos of the early 240z's to see where they are at and what shape they might be in. I've included a collection of VIN's I've collected from various threads and sources, some of these cars I've seen for myself, but others I haven't.

The ultimate goal would be to get a collection of photos of early HS30 cars and send them to Nostalgic Hero magazine in Japan, they could do a feature on early cars in Australia and I'm sure there would be quite a bit of interest globally and locally also.

Anyway as I get photos I'll add them to the first post here.. If you have anything to contribute or information to add please do! If you know a car has deceased please also let us know.

This isn't designed to replace the WA Z Car register, rather give a pictorial view of these cars.
HS30 00001 - Likely retained by Nissan
HS30 00002 - As above
HS30 00003 - ???
HS30 00004 (Melbourne collector).

Last spotted in 2001 Z Nationals?
More about this car here: http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/11290-early-australian-motoring-press-review-hs30-0004/

HS30 00012 (Brisbane)

HS30 00013 Confirmed Deceased (HS30-H confirmed here)
HS30 00016 (RB26 power, original L24 missing)

HS30 00019 (George's Car) - restoration thread here: http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/topic,13841.0.html
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HS30 00021 - South Africa
Colour: 115 Metallic Blue
Refer to post here.

South African Press / Demo car that is still in South Africa.  It is in pristine condition and until recently lay in a Nissan "dead house" before being bought by a well known collector.  I've been trying to negotiate to buy the car but he is adamant that he will never sell.  Apparently Nissan Japan have offered to buy the car back from him.

 
HS30-00024 - TKS33 SA694 - Works Rally Car - detail here
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This car was also used in the 70 Monte Carlo rally where it DNF'd and 26 was also used in the '71 RAC rally where it was 19th. (Source Brian Long book Datsun Fairlady Roadster to 280zx book)
HS30-00025 - TKS33 SA695 - Works Rally Car - detail here - Later went on to become the original BIG SAM (version 1).
HS30 00026 - TKS 33 SA696 - Deceased.. - detail here
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HS30-00027 - TKS33 SA697 - Works Rally Car - detail here
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HS30 00030 (Tasmania - Confirmed)
HS30 00034 (registered 'UAR 609J') - UK motoring press - Race Car (still in UK)
HS30 00035 (registered 'MBP 72J') - UK motoring press - Restored (still in UK)
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HS30 00039 (Ledge's shop)
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HS30 00044 (NSW WA Z Register)
HS30 00046 (Deceased - semi trailer write off) - Last photo from 1996 advert.
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HS30 00051 (NSW WA Z Register) - Build thread here.
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Original Engine Number: L24 011436
 
HS30 00060 - Last seen on eBay Tasmania. (Circa 2006)
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This car caused quite a stir when it appeared on eBay back in 2006. See various links below for discussions on it.
 
http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/339-car-hs30-00060-wants-20k/
http://www.zcar.com/forum/10-70-83-tech-discussion-forum/114918-early-240z-no-hs30-00060-a.html
http://zclub.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6530
http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/19312-1970-240z-low-for-sale-on-ebay/
http://www.thezgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=565
 
Original asking price was $20,000 - but later reports it was dropped to $6k, final sale figure is unknown however.
More photos at link here.
 
The car was originally Safari Gold 920, later repainted white.
Original Engine Number: L24 011646
 
 
HS30 00063 (Perth with collector/enthusiast)
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http://collections.museumvictoria.com.au/items/800697
http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/13497-introduction/
https://www.facebook.com/DatsunMotion/posts/557336500981312
 
HS30 00067 - (Graham - collector in WA)
 
HS30 00068
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Last seen on Gumtree (Jan 2015). Now sold on to restoration shop in Japan.
Previously seen here.
 
HS30 00084 - Great unrestored condition. (link here).
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Album Link: https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/HS3000084?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCLD2zYyPhIqFew&feat=directlink
HS30 00091 - Last spotted in trading post 2003 - see here.
HS30 00099 - Donnybrook WA
HS30 00112
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Don McKays Targa car SC Racer, initially built it for Michael Corke by Zshop, then sold to Don who still races it.
 
HS30 00114 - Airlie Beach, Whitsundays (QLD)
post-104671-0-16271700-1446812151.jpgMember introduction link: http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/14174-inspire-me-240z-build/
 
HS30 00117 (Graham - collector in WA)
 
HS30 00121 (VIC) - Dimitri (confirmed I've seen his car many times)
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Video here: Car Torque TV
HS30 00131 (ACT - WA Z Register)
 
HS30 00134 (SA - Gawler) - Undergoing rotisserie restoration - How it looked previously.
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HS30 00145 - NSW
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Link to full album.
For sale ad here.
Description from eBay (few years ago now ~2007).
Previously owned by Dazza on Classiczcars.com
 
HS30 00149 (Lurch) - Confirmed seen this car before...
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Thread here: http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php?topic=7104.0
 
HS30 00150 - Sydney NSW
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Engine No: L24-015253
Link to album: https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/HS3000150240z?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCL6tvtT49Law4wE&feat=directlink
Project thread here.
Member Name: Gav240z
HS30 00151 (Shannon's auctions a few years back, confirmed)
http://www.shannons.com.au/auctions/2010-shannons-melbourne-autumn-classic-auction/datsun-240z-coupe/
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HS30 00157 (QLD - WA Z Register)
HS30 00160 (Member Magnus)
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Link to post
 
HS30 00162 - Zshop in Melbourne.
Link to Facebook page.
 
HS30 00165 (Was on CarSales not long ago link here, was butchered, now being turned into a Ferrari GTO replica) - Spoke to new owner.
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HS30 00173 (Western Australia) - Current owner purchase car in late 70s. 905 Red originally, but has had at least 1 repaint.
 
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HS30 00177 - NSW
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More photos in this album.
It was featured in Autospeed here in 2001.
Toyota engine swap 7MGTE
More detail on car here.
Last spotted Wetherill Park police station impound.. About 15 years ago.
 
HS30 00181 (SA - WA Z Register)
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Album photos. https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/HS3000181?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCN7DpvmDudTMBw&feat=directlink

Exterior colour: 115 Blue
Interior colour: Black
Engine Number: L24-017870
I bought the car from Sports Car Centre in NSW in about 2008 who bought the car from Warren(All Z Parts) who bought the car from Walter Fath. The car was about 80% complete rolling shell. However most of the bolt on components that make it an early girl had been sold off by Warren. No engine, gearbox or diff came with the car. The car was going to be turned into a race car by the guys at Sports Car Centre but had a change of heart and decided to build up a Mazda MX5 for a one make racing series. The 240z however came with a cut up 260z 2 seater with most parts. I dragged all this back to SA with 3 mates in 3 separate cars with car trailers. After about 3 years of contemplating what to do with the car I decided to sell the shell as there was a lot of work required to restore it and it didn’t have the original engine. I put it up on ebay and sold the car back to a bloke in NSW who had an accident in his race car and wanted to re-shell his race car. That is the last I have seen or heard of it.

HS30 00183 (QLD - WA Z Register)
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HS30 00184 (SA - Link here)
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HS30 00187 - Retired in NSW (Deceased)
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Engine No: L24 017589
Colour: 905 Red.
 

The chassis rails were completely shot as air con had been fitted and a hole had been bored in the floor to allow the condensation to drip into the LH chassis rail. The RH one wasn't much better, as was the rest of the car. Wisdom in hindsight - I should have tried harder to save 187.[/size]

 
HS30 00189 (Victoria when I saw it, moved to South Australia).
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Link to album: https://goo.gl/photos/VNdUDx2BKaYSh3GJ8
 
HS30 00208 - Zshop in Melbourne.
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Link to Facebook page.
Link to album here.

HS30 00212

HS30 00213
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#213 is the black car in the foreground.
Post here.
 
 
HS30 00219
Featured in May 1998 edition of "Australian Classic Car" magazine.
Originally painted Kalahari Tan (918) orange. Now blue.
Owned by member: Zedhead70
Link to album
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HS30 00227
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Link to album: https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/HS3000227?authuser=0&feat=directlink
 
HS30 00233
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Last seen here.
Last sold price: $16,500 (2010).
Link to full album.

Car is in very good original condition with no rust. Car was repainted approximately 20 years ago. An early 240Z - build number 233, with original matching number engine. Has 15 inch Simmons rims, with original rims available if required. Original spare wheel still in place. Original radio and clock still working. New carpet just fitted. Car has just been tuned and serviced and drives and handles well.

 
HS30 00236
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Engine Number: L24 018454
Colour: 920 Safari Gold.
Link to full album here.
 
HS30 00251
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According to the previous owner matching numbers L24 engine, turned into convertible.
http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/8003-1971-datsun-240z-convertible-for-sale-registered-until-feb-2012/
Recently listed for sale again on Gumtree.
http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/1924-cars-for-sale-3rd-party-sites-ebay-carsales-etc/?p=167072
 
HS30 00254
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Link to Album: https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/HS3000254?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCL_J66b6z_Kxew&feat=directlink
Current owner also has HS30 00868

Spotted this car on the back of a car carrier on its way to Grand Auto wreckers(Datsun/Nissan Wrecker) on new year’s eve 2003 which was near my place at the time. I rang Anthony the 1st working day back in the new year and struck a deal to buy it (I have known Anthony the owner of Grand Auto Wreckers a long time). It sat in my shed in a very sad state, see pictures, for about 7 years until I had purchased all the parts to restore it to its current completed condition. The car was mostly complete with a matching number engine. I started the restoration in 2010 and was completed for the 2013 Nissan/Datsun nationals at Phillip Island. The car took out 2 awards and they were the best car 1970 to 1979 and  outright car of the event(Robert Shannon award). There are some finished shots of it on pg18 on the 2013 Nissan Nationals thread under Events.
 
HS30 00259 - Newcastle NSW
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Owner name: Ross
 
 
HS30 00267 - This car was scrapped / deceased.
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Full album link.
Link to for sale.

HS30 00283
http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/topic,13196.0.html
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Link to album: https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/HS3000283?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCLS41pqtscXxcg&feat=directlink
 
HS30 00287
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Recently listed for sale (Nov 2015).
Project thread here.
Colour: 904 White Originally.
 
HS30 00288 - Previously owned by Mark (Mossy)
Details here.
 
Car was purchased by member Jeff43 (owner of HS30 00134), who subsequently sold it to another member Lukep240Z.
 

Jeff43 - I got this car as a bare shell from Mossy in mid 2011. I took the front left inner guard and radiator support sections of it for my car (134) and then sold the rest of the shell to a guy from Victoria (Lukep240Z

). He was planning to use that shell and take the bits he required to save it from a very rusty car that he already had. Plenty of people wanted the roof off it and that would have been a death sentence for it I would have thought. I have added 2 pics of HS30 00288 to my gallery. A few bits like the radiator support panel from this car went to Ledge to help on George's HS30 00019 car as well.
 
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HS30 00295
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Full Album Link
HS30 00297
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Owned by Dr. Harry Corbett who previously owned HS30 0004, not actively being restored yet.
Link to album here.
 
HS30 00299
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Now lives in the UK and has an engine swap to a BMW M3 motor.
See post here.
 
HS30 00300 - (Graham - collector in WA)
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Previous for sale thread.



Car was a rally car and spent most of its rallying life in New Guinea. It has had a bit of a knock around as you would expect from a rally car but is in very good condition considering.  Roll cage has been 90% removed.
New floors and rails just fitted.  Brand new bonnet, guards and door skins.  
Original 240z c/ratio g/box. Fuel injected L28 from 280ZX, Locked R180 diff and open centre diff.

 
HS30 00301
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Link to more photos.
 
HS30 00308
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Album link here.
Previous discussions on 308 are here, here and here.
Car now resides in The showroom at Bridgewater Nissan, with stock hubcaps.
 
HS30 00310 - Last seen in 1997 (sold by member dalee) - Registration was ZZ-04240 (Victoria - The Garden State Plates).
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More photos (link here) - 907 Green was the original colour.
Update: Car is now owned by member Stavros240

I bought it off Damian Pearce in 2006, a budding motoring writer in Adelaide. He had tracked it a few times, but had lost interest i think. He had quite a bit of rust fixed in the dog legs, sills and lower front fenders. Unfortunately he chose to have the fixed sections sprayed in a darker green than the original 907, so the bottom half of the car is dark green and the top is 907. The car is now sitting in my garage half stripped.

HS30 00319
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http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/12627-what-a-difference-a-set-of-wheels-makes/
 
HS30 00329
HS30-00329.jpeg
 
Previous owner was webmanic (sold in 2012).  Now owned by Satrat Z
 
HS30 00330
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Owner: Ackent1
Originally purchased from Brisbane, currently running an L28. Plan is to revert back to the original motor.
See post here.
 
HS30 00335 - NSW
HS30%2000335b.jpg
 
Full Album Link.
 

It has undergone a full restoration about 6 years ago. The car still has the 71A Gearbox, only alteration to original was the head and paint (changed to Vitamin C). It now has an E88 head because it was in better shape than the E31. [/size]I had to use a couple of other 240Zs as donor cars as parts to build mine.[/size]

 
HS30 00339 - CarSales.com.au in NSW recently (Sept. 2015)
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More photos at link here.
 
HS30 00347
V8Datto's build thread here.
Member: V8Datto
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HS30 00352 - Currently in New Zealand undergoing restoration.
Painted Porsche Guards red.
https://zclub.nz - member name: 240znz
 

James: HS30 00352 was imported into NZ from Aussie in 1974 or 76, can't remember and I have the original MZ rego documents somewhere. 

Matching numbers with a build date of 12/70 we think going by other L24 block numbers close to this one. 

Hand throttle, solid B pillar, mystery dash button hole, chrome coat holders, vented hatch, rear deck is period Swiss cheese but hatch covers have been retrofitted. Will come in handy for the Jack and tools. No old tool covers behind the seats now but mounting points still there. Early 5 speed ( with a complete spare), 2 x E31 heads (modified E88 fitted). 

Car is now painted. Upholstery next week. Triple Mukuni 44's I got for it are too big for the L24 so a new set of Weber 40's are soon to be ordered. 
Photos to come in future...
 
HS30 00365
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Link to album: https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/HS3000365?authuser=0&feat=directlink
 
HS30 00373 - Western Australia (North Fremantle)
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Owner: Bob Naylor
Link to more info.
Engine No: L24 021107
Owner since year 2000
Original colour: 920 Gold(?)
 
 
HS30 00384 - Melbourne
HS30-00384.jpg
 
Build thread here.
Previous owner (Shaun240's father)
Previous owner photos here.
 
HS30 00389 (white) registered in NSW.
 
HS30 00396  
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Current Owner (NickF) words.
 
Matching numbers car.
 
I got the car mid 1997 with the intension of tiding it up. The PO used it as a daily driver it came without plates so I put it in the shed then nothing.
Been sitting there for nearly twenty years. I've never driven it! Needs paint and seats recovered a little panel rust?? don't have any badges.
 
Dash needs repairing engine needs freshen up. Most of the rust has been previously repaired, looks OK
It has a Fairlady grille, chromed rim headlight covers and 6/6.5x14 Watanabes.
 
Sounds too easy should have done it years ago.
Link to post here.
 
HS30 00399 - Member NEW240 (RB25 NEO)
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HS30 00404 - Melbourne.
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It was sold for an undisclosed amount after being advertised here in 2013.
Link to album
 
HS30 00408 - Graham Verbunts 240z.
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Build thread here: http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/topic,11888.30.html
 
HS30 00409 - Barn find. Needs work.
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HS30 00415
Colour: 907 Green originally. Repainted 905 red.
Previously owned by Stavros240, sold on to Smugley who sold it to a guy named Rex, who is selling again.
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Info from Stavros.



I bought her off a bloke in Port Melbourne in 1995...not sure how long he owned her for, but the car had spent some of it's life in East Gippsland I think, as the 71A box which was in it must have been replaced or re-built, as it had 'Bairnsdale' written on it. It also looked as if the car spent much time on dirt roads, judging by the volumes of dust on the underbody. It also had one of those 'Mountain Cattlemen care for the high country' stickers on the front bumper, which I promptly removed!

At some stage before my time with her, she was re-sprayed 905 red, but was originally 907 Green. She originally had the optional front and rear spoilers, but the front one had long gone by the time I bought her, and I removed the rear. Also had 5 slot Samson Engineering Magnums. Unfortunately it had an un-original L24, with an E88 head and the original early carbs. The rest of the car was pretty much original except for a missing radio and new floors. It was well in need of a full resto by the time I sold her in 2002. I actually sold it to Smugley, who passed it onto Rex Carr in much the same condition in about 2005. I've tried to search for her over the years on the net, but haven't been able to find any trace...

 
HS30 00418 - Owned by Marc (my_mad_z)
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Gav240z: I recall seeing this car hanging from the roof of an S30z specialist in Melbourne (Warren used to own the place called ZWorx) in the early 2000s and it was a bare shell. I believe it may have been 920 Safari Gold originally if my memory serves correctly, at the time I was unimpressed with the colour. :). However it may have also been 918 Orange like #424 below.
 
Marc bought my 1973 240z and I believe many-a-nut-bolt and fastener were used from that car to put this 1 back together and on the road.

 
HS30 00420
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Based on the engine bay photo, I am going to assume this car was originally Kalahari Tan 918 in colour. 
Engine Number: L24 024470
 
Link to album here.
 
HS30 00424 - Numbers matching car. Car at bottom of photo. Car on hoist is a 73 240z
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HS30 00501
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HS30 00517
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Found in a farmers shed, photos here.
Owned by member dalee
 
HS30 00521 - Currently owned by 24 Dat
See also post #86
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HS30 00535
For sale thread here.
HS30 00536
post-101840-0-59998200-1441445197.jpgOriginal Colour: 918 Kalahari Tan
Post here.
Owner: Zed74
  
HS30 00561 - Bannockburn Victoria
Engine No. L24-030016
Compliance date: April 1971
For sale thread here.
 
HS30 00570 - Queensland
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This car was somewhat infamous on the Australian S30z scene back in the early 2000s.
An old archive of the car's build can be found here.
Now L28 Turbo powered. Full album here.
Featured on Autospeed.com.au also.
Member: Zbuild. (see thread).
Australian Compliance is around May 1971. Approx. build date February 1971.
 
HS30 00575 - Last seen on gumtree
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Link to album: https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/HS3000575?authuser=0&feat=directlink
 
HS30 00595
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Bought from Victoria.
Originally 918 orange but was resprayed black before i bought it, one day will be 918 orange again.
 
Original L24 was draw through carbie turbo, was a pig to drive. Replaced with an RB20det
Has MK63 front brakes, fibre glass guards and bonnet, roll bar and R200 lsd, tokico shocks and springs, FMIC and a few other bits and pieces.
 
Refer to post here.
 
HS30 00596
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Colour: 918 Orange.
Engine No. L24 027546
Car has a new life in the UK.
Link to intro thread.
For sale thread.
Previous for sale thread.
Link to album.
 
HS30 00601 - NSW
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Colour: 918 Kalahari Tan
Owner member name: import monky
Currently undergoing restoration.
 
HS30 00605
HS30-00605.jpg
Colour: 918 Orange (Kalahari Tan)
Engine No: L24-027547
Previous for sale thread.
Previous owner JIM71Z (James Flett MIA Engines in DeeWhy NSW).
 
HS30 00614
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Awaiting it's turn for restoration at Zshop.
 
HS30 00626 - Undergoing restoration.
 
HS30 00655
918 Kalahari Tan
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Queensland registration.
 
HS30 00672
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Colour: 907 Green
Link to for sale thread #1
Link to for sale thread #2
Youtube Video on Track.
 
HS30 00675 - CarSales.com.au - sold within 48 hours. August 2015.
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Link to album: https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/HS3000675?authuser=0&feat=directlink
 
HS30 00682 - South Australia
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Link to for sale thread.
RB Engine swap.
 
HS30 00683 - Victoria
HS30-00683.jpg
 
The brown hornet build thread.
Link to full album.
 
HS30 00695 - NSW
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Engine No. L24 031239
Paint Code: 918 Kalahari Tan
Interior: Black
Previous reg was: AZ82CF
Now resides at Gosford Museum.
Previously Phil from Edward Lees car. (More about Phil)
Full Album here.
 
HS30 00700 - New South Wales
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Link to for sale thread.
Appears to be an original Canberra car.
 
HS30 00741 - Likely no longer exists.
Engine Number: Engine No.: L24 031211
Colour: 918 Kalahari Tan
Refer to post here.
Member on Classiczcars.com: JackWarnock
 

There won't be many stories like this to be told because it just doesn't happen. I bought my first 240Z in August, 1971 (HS30 00741). I had to sell it in 1976 unfortunately. Several years ago I wanted to revisit that 240Z experience of so many years ago. The first thing I did was to check on the registration (NSW Australia) of the car. I found that the original registration of the 1971 car was "available" - meaning that my original car was probably beer cans.

The original registration was BBQ-240. I reserved it right there and it is now the only connection with my current 1973 Fairlady 240Z (HS30 103407)purchased in 2003. 

 
The 1973 Fairlady 240Z-L mentioned in the quote above was recently sold on CarSales.com.au - See post.
 
HS30 00745 - Gumtree recently.
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Link to album: https://picasaweb.google.com/107400787026175995661/HS3000745?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCPyj59bold6rLA&feat=directlink
 
HS30 00803
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Previous for sale thread.
 
HS30 00819
Owner: Ackent1
Car is currently undergoing restoration.
See post here.
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HS30 00836
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Current owner: Satrat Z
 
HS30 00838 - Adelaide
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Previous for sale thread here.
Compliance Date: Nov 1971
Video link here.
HS30 00859 - Last spotted Cundletown NSW
http://www.justauto.com.au/justcars/cars-for-sale/1971-DATSUN-240Z-SPORTS-JCM3643017
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Now being restored by member 240z_au here.
 
HS30 00862
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Project thread.
Full album here.
Colour: 112 Lime Green / Yellow.
 
HS30 00868
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Album Link: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_PiKQeE4oVr9EkRBmTWuLWV8itHZ13lHNDn_PlPgOwI?feat=directlink

Current owner spotted car in a holding yard in 1998 for abandoned cars which was collected by the local council. Inquired how he could purchase the car and I was told to apply to the local council to buy it. Managed to buy a complete matching numbers car for $200(the cost of the tow fee). This car since 11/2014 has been at a restoration shop for a complete panel and paint job to the same standard of chassis 254.
 
HS30 00879 - UK
Also known as TKS33 SA 3640
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Kevin Bristow's ex-Works 1971 Datsun 240Z rally car, the car is based on a PZR chassis (PS30-SB or 432-R) so is light weight in non structural areas and stronger in structural places.
 
Engine No: L24 039427 (with E30 cylinder head - note not an E31 or E88 head).
Read more here.
Octane Magazine Article here.
 
HS30 00894


 

 
HS30 00908
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Compliance date: July 1971
Link to for sale thread.
Link to full album.
RB20DET conversion.
 
HS30 00918
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Colour: 907 Green.
Thread here.
Full album.
 
HS30 00954
Colour: 920 Safari Gold.
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Currently undergoing restoration, located in rural Victoria with a collector who has a couple of other S30z's.
 
HS30 00958
Original Colour: 919 yellow
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Full album here.
Current motor: L28 303202
Compliance: 08/1971
Vehicle details obtained via Vicroads registration search.
Advertised on gumtree recently. See here.
 
HS30 00982
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Engine Number: L24-045825 
Build thread here.
Colours: White exterior with blue interior (very rare combo for the Australian market).
Located in Western Australia.
Owned by member RB26DETT
 
HS30 01001
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Project thread here.
Owner: zzzzed
Previous owner: thriller.
 
HS30 01024
Malcolms%20car%20031.jpgCustomer at Zshop.
Link to album.
This vehicle still has the hand throttle and early console. Is this the highest number car (71 model) still with these features?
 
HS30 01179 - Dead...
See post here.
 
HS30 01254
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Full Album Link
 
HS30 01310
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Engine No. Original matching numbers.
Full album link.
eBay description.
Compliance date: 10/71
HS30 01428
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Full album link

Previously listed on Gumtree here.

Original colour: 918 Kalahari Tan
Original Engine No: L24 - 055813
Currently has L28 fitted.
 
HS30 01694 - New Zealand.
Member: Merlin on Zclub.nz

I have a 240z over here imported from Au in 1972 Number HS30 01640. It was made in Sept 71
 
It does not have the "cruise control feature" so it must have just missed out. It is a matching numbers car and was met brown with the butterscotch colour interior. It was totally stripped down to the bare shell and had no expense spared, every last nut and bolt resto done over 3.5 years. It would have been cheaper to buy a Porsche/Ferrari. It had a CB radio installed in it in Oz as that seemed to be a trend in the 70s and it had huge sun visors that looked like blocks of wood. It looks nothing like it did when I got it so it is now a very different car. I have not done any mods that can't be taken back to original except for the paint colour. It is a manual 5spd. It is fitted with the later style console with only the single choke lever.

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This might be another one to tick off the list;

 

In the "Build 11ty billion" topic on performanceforums.com, Supashake says that Graham in WA has (amongst his current collection of 21 S30s) number 11;

http://performanceforums.com/forums/showthread.php?67287865-Z-Build-11ty-billion/page2

 

These 12 new cars are still arriving, Latest is chassis number 011.

 

He also says that Graham has (including number 11 presumably)

...3 sub 60 chassis numbers...
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Sounds like Graham is playing S30z bingo and winning.

 

I should start a new thread on this topic, I am really interested to know what shape these cars are in and just how original some of them are. It's 1 thing for the chassis to still exist it's another thing if it's even viable to repair / restore and how many original bits are still with them.

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Gavin,

 

I don't see any cars in your list as confirmed to have been scrapped, but assuming that you want to include them, this post from NZeder suggests that HS30-00013 is no longer with us.  :'(

 

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Pete purchase HS30-00013 who's body was in worse shape also. This car gave up its roof so HS30-00016 could have one without a subroof.

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What's considered an early girl? Anything under 00999??

 

From my understanding an "Early Girl" is more about features than body numbers.

 

Early Girls have

 

- Vents in the hatch

- 240Z badges on the rear pillars

- choke and hand throttle

- Speedo starts at 20MPH

- No Tool Boxes

And the list goes on........

 

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I really have to tidy this up further but for now I found this.

http://www.zcar.com/forum/10-70-83-tech-discussion-forum/114918-early-240z-no-hs30-00060-a.html

 

HS30 00060 apparently existed up until 2005 - but who knows if he took the advice not to put a Skyline motor in it? Does it still exist? Who knows.

 

Take the info here with regard to HS30 prefix cars with a grain of salt.

http://zhome.com/History/69ZArticle.html

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Take the info here with regard to HS30 prefix cars with a grain of salt.

http://zhome.com/History/69ZArticle.html

 

Or - better - buy a salt mine.

 

This type of article sums up everything I've always argued about with regard to Carl Beck's 'zhome.com' site. It is TOTALLY biased towards the North American market cars (even then it marginalises Canada...) to the point that he will bend whatever facts he has inherited in order to reinforce his "made for the USA" theme. It was only a few years ago that he was denying that ANY 'HS30' prefixed cars had been made in 1969 at all.

 

See all the talk about pre-production prototypes? All of that data was obtained from ex Nissan Shatai staff by 'Kats' Endo some years back, and when you look at the data in its entirety it tells a DIFFERENT story than the one zhome.com paints with it. In fact, the very first S30 type made and given a chassis number was 'S30-00001' - 'Sekkei Shisaku no.1' ('Factory Prototype No.1') in May 1969.

 

Beck writes his piece pretty much as though nothing other than 'HLS30' prefixed cars exist or matter, but Nissan conceived, designed, engineered and productionised a series of models (the 'S30 Series'), not just one model for one market. A look at Nissan Shatai's data tells a clearer story: Factory Prototype No.2 was given the number 'HLS30-00001' and Factory Prototype No.3 was 'PS30-00001'. In July 1969 Nissan Shatai made 4 'Seisan Shisaku' ('Primary Production Prototype') cars, which were 'HLS30-00002', 'S30-00002', 'PS30-00002' and 'HS30-00001'. So 'HS30-00001' was Primary Production Prototype No.4 and the seventh S30-series Z to be given a full chassis number.

 

Another sample of data: Of the first fourteen prototypes and pre-production cars to be issued with a full chassis number, only three of them had 'HLS30' prefixes. Re-read the zhome.com article with that in mind and it starts to look - at the very least - somewhat incomplete... 

 

Following the Nissan Shatai data through to the end of 1969 tells even more: By the end of December they had made 543 'Export' cars (so 'HLS30' prefixed LHD '240Z', theoretically including non-USA/Canada models too, and 'HS30' prefixed RHD '240Z' models) and no less than 969 'Domestic' cars ('S30' and 'PS30' prefixed Fairlady Z, Fairlady Z-L, Fairlady Z432 and Fairlady Z432-R models). Again, you won't see any of that on zhome.com.

 

Nissan Shatai tells us that 'HS30-00001', 'HS30-00002' and 'HS30-00003' were all made before the end of 1969. Can you spot 'HS30-00001' and 'HS30-00002' in the zhome article?

 

Much of this comes down to the mistake of thinking that the '240Z' is something that can be talked about on its own. In fact, the term '240Z' on its own is all but meaningless. Those 'HS30' prefixed cars had more in common with the 'S30' prefixed cars than they did the 'HLS30' prefixed cars, but because they shared the same engine capacity and a '240Z' emblem they get taken out of context and lumped in with the "American" cars to make them look like some kind of afterthought. They were nothing of the sort, and that is from the mouths of the engineers and designers who worked on them.

 

 

So, zhome.com? Don't swallow it whole.

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Alan lots of good info there, can you give me the link to that thread that Kats shared all this info in?

 

I'm trying to determine how many HS30s may have been produced in the 1969 year. Do you have any idea what chassis # they would have gone up to?  Would an engine number be a more accurate reference point for build date(s)?

 

I had read that info from Carl and in fact many times told people no 1969 build date HS30's existed in Australia, but I now think I'm wrong.

 

Up until yesterday I didn't know that HS30 0003 made it over here, I have never seen the car and last I heard it was wearing a purple paint job and headed down the Victoria coast line. It makes me wonder if HS30 0002 would have made it here and what happened to HS30 0001? As a prototype I assume it never left the factory? I was always under the impression HS30 0004 was the earliest chassis number here in AU.

 

Yet lately (last 2 weeks) I've uncovered a lot of info with regard to early cars. Cars that I didn't think still existed but the first post of this thread has shone a light on what cars may or may not be around and accounted for.

 

 

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Alan lots of good info there, can you give me the link to that thread that Kats shared all this info in?

 

I'll have to search for it. It's buried inside another topic, as far as I remember...

 

I'm trying to determine how many HS30s may have been produced in the 1969 year. Do you have any idea what chassis # they would have gone up to?  Would an engine number be a more accurate reference point for build date(s)?

 

According to Nissan and Nissan Shatai themselves, only 'HS30-00001', 'HS30-00002' and 'HS30-00003' were produced in calendar year 1969. They say that only 'HS30-0003' was sold as a regular production vehicle, so we can assume that 'HS30-00001' and 'HS30-00002' were retained by Nissan for further study. I have a pretty good lead that shows they went to Oppama, and Nissan's Works race preparation shops for testing and development of race and rally parts and cars.

 

I'm not sure when 'HS30-00004' was actually made, but it may well have been in early January 1970. After that 'HS30' prefixed Export market cars were put on the back burner in order for Nissan Shatai to focus production on North American market cars and to catch up with orders for Domestic cars. To cut a long story short, they were at full capacity.

 

Engine numbers are a bit of a hit and miss thing that only makes any sense when viewed in retrospect. Engine blocks have casting dates on them, but there was sometimes a fair gap between casting date, machining date and installation date. Engines were numbered in engine build sequence, but not necessarily in car build sequence. There were also a couple of other models sharing the L24 engine number sequence (loads sharing the L20A sequence...) and no real imperative to match engine numbers to particular car builds. So, no... 

 

 

 

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Alan,

 

A very educational read, it is always interesting how the very first cars come out of the factory.

As an example Holden No.1 has body No.6

 

Thanks

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I've found a few posts here.

http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/11674-philosophical-discusion-on-build-dates/page-1

http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/6707-production-number-for-1969/page-1

 

I haven't had a chance to read it all in detail, but I did find that some cars in the HS30 0002X range were Works Rally Cars thanks to Alan, also found HS30 00013 is now deceased.

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Thanks updated first post, it's becoming clear I really need some sort of database for these cars. A car can have multiple photos and owners (past and present) so will need to devise something in the future.

 

Still I've surprised myself as to how many can be accounted for so far...or at least others have claimed to have seen or there is some record of them..

 

@Alan - Do you know of many early/low numbered HS30 prefixed cars in the UK? So far it seems we in Australia got a lot of sequentially numbered early cars. We have discussed in the past that HS30 prefixed cars were sold in UK, Australia, Japan (71 onward?) and New Zealand and possibly South Africa (in very small numbers).

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HS30 00183 (QLD - WA Z Register)

Me Confirmed  :) Qld

Always preferred the term Zenki rather than early girl, originally Kalahari Tan/New sight orange 918 now Guards Red with L28 all by previous owner

 

Also HS30 00409

Known Brisbane will be full restored one day

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@Alan - Do you know of many early/low numbered HS30 prefixed cars in the UK? So far it seems we in Australia got a lot of sequentially numbered early cars. We have discussed in the past that HS30 prefixed cars were sold in UK, Australia, Japan (71 onward?) and New Zealand and possibly South Africa (in very small numbers).

 

First two HS30s officially imported into UK were 'HS30-00034' (registered 'UAR 609J') and 'HS30-00035' (registered 'MBP 72J' and much seen in the contemporary UK motoring press). Both cars still exist, '34' as a race car (which spent some time travelling in the Antipodes with its owner in the 2000s) and '35' as a restored showpiece.

 

As you know, 'HS30-00024', 'HS30-00025', 'HS30-00026' and 'HS30-00027' were Works rally cars, built to take part in the 1970 RAC Rally. They account for early 'HS30' prefixed chassis numbers, but their bodyshells were made from super lightweight 'PZR' Fairlady Z432-R pressings put together at Hiratsuka and then transported to the Works competition shops at Oppama to be built into Works rally cars.

 

The Works cars built for the 1971 RAC Rally had chassis numbers in the HS30-008** range. Don't know if you want to class that as 'early', as their bodies were put together in mid 1971 - again from PZR pressings.

 

Only other 'low' chassis serial numbered HS30s I know of in the UK currently have actually come here via Australia and NZ.

 

 

 

One of the problems with counting/accounting for the 'HS30' prefixed bodies is that people expect them to be in some sort of constant and linear progression, which wasn't the case. There were gaps both in production and numbering. Nissan Shatai was under great pressure, operating over reasonable capacity, and so was Nissan's whole supply and transport system. Datsun UK (a concessionaire at the time, remember) was reluctant to sell sports cars, as it didn't see them as its bread and butter (they'd have preferred to sell three Sunnies than one 240Z...) and Nissan fell foul of both import taxes and new lighting laws, necessitating a re-design of the front sidelights and indicators. All of this delayed official imports and meant that some capacity initially allocated to the UK was apparently re-assigned to Aus./NZ. 

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