Mr Camouflage Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Bit of a prick, I don't like his method. If you get an offer and accept it then sell. Don't dangle it out there looking for a better offer. Happened to me once. Made a deal to buy a Z31 two seater (rare to find one in Aus), shook hands, went home, was going to pick it up on the weekend and bring cash. Get a call from the seller, he's been offered $500 more from a guy over east, and if I want it, i'd need to beat the other guys price by another $500. He kept saying I need the money for my family, have to think of them first, should have left a deposit, blah blah blah. Maybe I'm too old school, but you shake hands on a verbal deal it's as good as done. You don't welch out of it because someone offers you a little extra cash. I also knew he got the car from a wrecker cheap, and was telling me lies about getting it from a mate. He was probably bull-shitting the other guy for more money too. Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted March 13, 2015 Author Administrators Posted March 13, 2015 Happened to me once. Made a deal to buy a Z31 two seater (rare to find one in Aus), shook hands, went home, was going to pick it up on the weekend and bring cash. Get a call from the seller, he's been offered $500 more from a guy over east, and if I want it, i'd need to beat the other guys price by another $500. He kept saying I need the money for my family, have to think of them first, should have left a deposit, blah blah blah. Maybe I'm too old school, but you shake hands on a verbal deal it's as good as done. You don't welch out of it because someone offers you a little extra cash. I also knew he got the car from a wrecker cheap, and was telling me lies about getting it from a mate. He was probably bull-shitting the other guy for more money too. +1 agree I don't like the tactic, when I bought HS30 00150 several people tried to offer more for the car after the auction ended on eBay, to the credit of the seller he stood by his word and sold me the car for the final bid price, we both agreed we thought it would go higher but at the end of the day everyone had an opportunity to bid and it went for what it did. Deal done etc.. He is a good guy but looking at going on a holiday in the near future and there is a lot of centimental value in it for him so just chasing what he can get. I think it's only fair you get it, I don't think sentimental value counts for shit, he let it rot. How sentimental can he be about it? Yesterday I posted a link to a wheeler dealers interview. http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/topic,15636.msg165948.html#msg165948 and I can't believe I'm about to quote Mr Brewer but I agree with him on this point. Drive News: What do you think about the car owners who sell you all these cars that are barely alive? Mike Brewer: Do you know what? Truthfully, I get a bit angry with people that they can own such a car that I’m excited about and I know that Edd will be excited about and they could let it get into such a sorry state. Because as a genuine car enthusiast and classic car owner myself, it’s not that hard to look after a car. It’s not that hard to throw a cloth over a car or a blanket. It’s not that hard to put a car in a garage and make sure it’s covered for the winter. It’s not that hard to change your oil and to service a car and to maintain it regularly. And that makes me angry. When I go and see people’s cars they’ve just trashed, used and abused, I think that’s just a crime. Quote
Triptych Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 I will fill in some more of the story tomorrow after I know what's going on. I was disappointed when he told me he was taking offers until I came to pick it up as it went from the joy and also nervousness knowing I was finally getting a 240z to that sinking feeling all in 24 hours. I have met the guy a couple of times and still think he is a good guy because I know the circumstances behind it all. I'm not too confident I will get it tomorrow as it will just be my luck the way the week has gone so I'm trying to not get too worked up over it until I am on my way down there tomorrow. Quote
CroS13 Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 why do you keep defending this guy.... He IS NOT a good guy... he is a scumbag. You drive a hour and a half to go see this car, on multiple occasions, and he agrees on a price and shakes your hand on it, and now wastes your time and says he wants more? He doesn't respect you. He should have done more research before listing the car, and priced it better. Not agree on a sale price then decide he wants to try and screw more money out of you. I know its hard, you don't want to tell him where to go, as its a pretty decent price for what you want, perhaps you wont be able to find another deal like that for a good while, but this isnt right. Rudolf. Quote
theremm Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 I think 4k is about right. And yes, +1 for scumbag Quote
theremm Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Much better buy for 7.5k I think A lot less rust and has L28 too http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/warnbro/cars-vans-utes/1971-240z-manual-l28-turbo-head-/1073328764 Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted March 13, 2015 Author Administrators Posted March 13, 2015 Much better buy for 7.5k I think A lot less rust and has L28 too http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/warnbro/cars-vans-utes/1971-240z-manual-l28-turbo-head-/1073328764 Looks like Cuong's 240z #575 he sold not long ago. Member RB26DETT http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/topic,2630.msg161443.html#msg161443 Last sold around $5k, make him an offer. Doesn't look like any progress has been made since it was last sold. Now aren't you glad we keep track of these things on this site? Quote
theremm Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Does come in handy maybe the new buyer but off more than they could chew Quote
Triptych Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Looks like the car is going to Melbourne as he has had 2 better offers from guys down there. Unless they fall through before Sunday arvo I won't be getting it as I will pull my offer then. Quote
theremm Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Looks like the car is going to Melbourne as he has had 2 better offers from guys down there. Unless they fall through before Sunday arvo I won't be getting it as I will pull my offer then. Sorry to hear It's disheartening that there are sellers like that out there. No problem trying to get the most you can but set a beefier asking price and work back from there... don't make people bid for it!! Speaking of which... maybe we should have a little fun of our own and have a couple bystanders bid on it too. Raise the price to the point where he turns all the other genuine buyers down because the price is too high for them and then ends up with no purchaser at all (or maybe will come calling back to you). Hehehe. Anyone in? Quote
Riceburner Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 I say turn the tables a little, give him a dead line on your offer (say midday Saturday) as your looking at another 240z in much better condition. This guy has made a deal, then changed his mind due to pure greed! The 7.5k car looks better to me also. Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted March 13, 2015 Author Administrators Posted March 13, 2015 Tempting but not worth the effort. He is a jerk. What about the Green 240z I'd go for that anyway being an earlier car and I like that original green. Quote
Triptych Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Green one would be out of the price range I think. It was hard enough to convince the wife to let me dip into the savings for this one. I guess it wasn't meant to be. Hope it goes to a good home. Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted March 13, 2015 Author Administrators Posted March 13, 2015 To be frank if 2k will make or break it you won't get far with a rusty z. You'll spend 3x initial price fixing rust. That is the reality. Not gonna sugar coat it. If you do some of the body work maybe you'll save money on labour etc.. Good luck but maybe evaluate buying a wreck vs a rust free restored example. Quote
Triptych Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Its the initial outlay cost, Build cost isn't the issue as that will be covered over time. I am building a 2+2 at the moment so I do understand build costs involved its just I have always wanted a 240z to put back to stock (big plans for the 2+2 though). I have spent over 10k in parts so far in parts for the 2+2 and she isn't even full stripped yet. Quote
Triptych Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Well the car is official sold now I just got the text. I wonder if it will end up here. Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted March 14, 2015 Author Administrators Posted March 14, 2015 Well the car is official sold now I just got the text. I wonder if it will end up here. I'm sorry to hear about that, I wouldn't get hung up on it though, there is always another deal and often a better deal around the corner. Save a bit more cash and when the right deal comes along you'll be able to make a cash offer straight up. Quote
Triptych Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 yeah at the start of the week I wasn't expecting for the opportunity to own a 240z to be on the table. I am just going to stick my head back down and work on the 2+2 and see what happens. Quote
dat2kman Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Well the car is official sold now I just got the text. I wonder if it will end up here. went for $4500, and off to Melbourne, going by comments eslewhere about cheap Z prices! Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted March 14, 2015 Author Administrators Posted March 14, 2015 Tempted to send him an email now offering $10k Quote
Triptych Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Yeah I'm a little annoyed. Him getting the 4.5k for it doesn't bother me just the bit where it's now going to Melbourne considering he told me he wanted the money and it gone on the same day hence why i was heading there today as he wasn't free on Friday. Quote
oldmates260z Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Datsun Fairlady Sports 1964 $1000 http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Datsun-Fairlady-1964/SSE-AD-3304349/?Cr=1 Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted March 22, 2015 Author Administrators Posted March 22, 2015 2 x 240z for sale at $6,500 http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mulgrave/cars-vans-utes/1971-datsun-240z-coupe/1073735893 No photos 2 X 240z for sale 1) matching numbers, manual, interior taken out (all there), rust in usual areas aswell as a left hand a pillar 2) L28 motor, minimal rust in floor, interior taken out (all there), damage to left quarter panel and small section of right quarter panels exposed (was pulled and filled with bog, body seems straight and no structual damge) these 2 cars are to be sold together for $6500 Be quick boys, this won't last. Quote
Triptych Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 for 6.5k who needs photos? Oh thats right me because I'm interstate Will email and see if I can get photos to post. Quote
oldmates260z Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Now for something different: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/240Z-Datsun-V8-/301581043768?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item4637a18838 Quote
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