Sirpent Posted April 9, 2016 Posted April 9, 2016 Nice, and very quick, Christ you make me feel slow. Quote
CBR Jeff Posted April 10, 2016 Author Posted April 10, 2016 Jeff. Just make sure you have clearance for the rear roll-bar with the extended frame rail. I got caught and had to redo mine.Thank you Peter. Checked this morning and no I don't. Very easy fix now but might have been both embarrassing and a hassle later on in the build. I'll get yo that later, off to all Japan day for s look shortly. Jeff Quote
PeterAllen Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) I settled on making three sections (the front rails, the floor rails and the rear up-sweep) and welding them together in-situ. It was far, far easier that trying to make a one-piece to fit. As you can see, I married the rear up-sweep more to the side of the rear cross-member - the second time around! Edited April 10, 2016 by PeterAllen Quote
CBR Jeff Posted April 10, 2016 Author Posted April 10, 2016 Thanks Peter. After looking at your photos watching an episode of project binky drinking some tea and then drinking a beer I have a solution. I'll post some photos once done. I will get the other floor in first. Jeff. Quote
Moderators PB260Z Posted April 10, 2016 Moderators Posted April 10, 2016 then drinking a beer I have a solution. I'll post some photos once done. Jeff. Amazing how drinking a beer or three often helps in finding a solution. CBR Jeff 1 Quote
Sirpent Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 I settled on making three sections (the front rails, the floor rails and the rear up-sweep) and welding them together in-situ. It was far, far easier that trying to make a one-piece to fit. As you can see, I married the rear up-sweep more to the side of the rear cross-member - the second time around! Thank you Peter......................... Just gave me an additional project for the rear end now since Im turning mine into a T34 Quote
CBR Jeff Posted April 10, 2016 Author Posted April 10, 2016 Thank you Peter......................... Just gave me an additional project for the rear end now since Im turning mine into a T34 John I don't think you will need this modification as the chassis you are building for under your car will provide more stiffness than these extended floor rails will.Jeff Quote
jeff43 Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Thank you Peter......................... Just gave me an additional project for the rear end now since Im turning mine into a T34 T-34"s were a very good tank, but not sure the comparison is fair (tank). I agree with Jeff it will be strong. Quote
Sirpent Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 John I don't think you will need this modification as the chassis you are building for under your car will provide more stiffness than these extended floor rails will. Jeff Dear Jeff's (LOL) True However, the rear cross beam of my chassis (Which is the one with the 2 exhaust ports) bolts at 4 points to the original LCA mount points which in Peters extension have been tied to the original rails. I'm just thinking that as I'm using this section as a major mounting point, an additional few hours work and fabrication to tie this area up to the rails and floor pan would not be a waste. Cheers John Quote
PeterAllen Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Jeff, I don't want to crowd your build thread but while you've got the welder out you might consider stitching the structural bits, e.g. strut towers and cross-member. It's best not to stitch the lighter panels, particularly fore and aft, as they can act as crumple zones to retain the integrity of the structural bits. A crumpled panel can be fixed a lot easier than a twisted structural member. Quote
CBR Jeff Posted April 11, 2016 Author Posted April 11, 2016 Dear Jeff's (LOL) True However, the rear cross beam of my chassis (Which is the one with the 2 exhaust ports) bolts at 4 points to the original LCA mount points which in Peters extension have been tied to the original rails. I'm just thinking that as I'm using this section as a major mounting point, an additional few hours work and fabrication to tie this area up to the rails and floor pan would not be a waste. Cheers John Fair call John. Keep up the good work. Jeff Quote
CBR Jeff Posted April 11, 2016 Author Posted April 11, 2016 Jeff, I don't want to crowd your build thread but while you've got the welder out you might consider stitching the structural bits, e.g. strut towers and cross-member. It's best not to stitch the lighter panels, particularly fore and aft, as they can act as crumple zones to retain the integrity of the structural bits. A crumpled panel can be fixed a lot easier than a twisted structural member. Thanks Peter Yes on the "to do list" I am also adding some additional plates to the seat belt mounting points in the floor. And a couple of plates where these cars tend to crack at the back of the seats. The extended floor rails will help this also. I have witnessed some of the old rally cars in the 6 point cage days almost falling in half at this point. I also added some extra side intrusion protection when I was doing the sills. Thanks for the comments. Jeff. Quote
CBR Jeff Posted April 12, 2016 Author Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) "One of the eternal truths of automotive restorations is that inherited problems from previous restorers are always worse than problems that occur naturally" I spent most of yesterday afternoon dealing with a problem referred to in this quote. It's funny how people will spend lots of time trying to carry out work in a dodgy manner, taking a short cut (long cut) or with the wrong tools. When the job can be done properly in less time with the correct tools and or procedures. Anyway it's done now. It was not worthy of a photo or detail. It was a small thing but like Gav I have OCD with somethings. I am off for two weeks work in the tropical sun of far north QLD so no work on the Z till after Anzac Day. Then if all goes to plan I might have to drive to Warragul. Now that will be a good trip. Jeff. Edited April 12, 2016 by CBR Jeff Quote
Moderators PB260Z Posted April 12, 2016 Moderators Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) "One of the eternal truths of automotive restorations is that inherited problems from previous restorers are always worse than problems that occur naturally" I spent most of yesterday afternoon dealing with a problem referred to in this quote. It's funny how people will spend lots of time trying to carry out work in a dodgy manner, taking a short cut (long cut) or with the wrong tools. When the job can be done properly in less time with the correct tools and or procedures. So very true, and I have had to deal with that problem with previous project cars. Thankfully the Z has been OK on that front. I often suspect it is caused by a combination of - laziness (but ends up being more work) - lack of required skills (can be learnt) - lack of correct tools (expensive) But i am not sure in what order. Cheers PB Edited April 12, 2016 by PB260Z Quote
CBR Jeff Posted May 4, 2016 Author Posted May 4, 2016 It's been almost three weeks since the last proper visit to the shed. I was out of town for work (sort of, I got payed to have a great time in North Queensland). So today I managed to get the passengers side floor fitted and tacked in. Cleaned a few things up and I must rotated the car on the rotisserie about 30 times. Off to Orange tomorrow for a few days then I'm hoping for a bit of a quiet spell so I can make some proper progress. Les at LCR should have the engine together in the next few weeks so I'm planing on a road trip down south. Sirpent 1 Quote
CBR Jeff Posted May 4, 2016 Author Posted May 4, 2016 One of the highlights of Cairns was having this to drive around. Quote
CBR Jeff Posted May 4, 2016 Author Posted May 4, 2016 Great to see progress again ;-) Yep it is. Just good to be home in the shed. Jeff Quote
CBR Jeff Posted May 9, 2016 Author Posted May 9, 2016 With all the rain Its been a good opertunity to shelter in the shed. Rocky has enjoyed sitting inside watching the rain fall. Both floors are now installed. Thanks to Peter Allen for pointing out the impending sway bar fowling issues I managed to resolve this issue before it was a problem. I have also made and installed the strengthening plates that are located along the transmission tunnel at the rear Just near the seat belt mount. Started to work on new seat mounts today after finishing off some work and a trip to Fyshwick to get some more weld through primer. Quote
jeff43 Posted May 9, 2016 Posted May 9, 2016 You made short work of all that floor and chassis rail work, especially seeing you had a few weeks off in the tropics. Keep it up, can't wait to see the engine all done. Cheers Jeff Quote
CBR Jeff Posted May 9, 2016 Author Posted May 9, 2016 Exceptionally well done Jeff 5* work You made short work of all that floor and chassis rail work, especially seeing you had a few weeks off in the tropics. Keep it up, can't wait to see the engine all done. Thanks boys, I'll keep at it. I'm also very much looking forward to seeing the engine finished. Les has been working away at it. I did get a bit excited when my son showed me photos of Lurch's engine on the LCR Facebook page last week. Quote
CBR Jeff Posted May 12, 2016 Author Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) I received an email from Les at LCR tonight. Every one at home is sick of me showing them (except Rocky) so now it's your turn. We have a short engine. Edited May 12, 2016 by CBR Jeff gav240z 1 Quote
CBR Jeff Posted May 12, 2016 Author Posted May 12, 2016 And the end result from both top and bottom. Quote
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