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There are a number of good references available. but I do not know which would be the best. I have : Nissan Motor Co Ltd Tokyo Japan Datsun 260Z Model S30 Series Service Manual Publication # SM5E-OS30GO 1976 Service Bulletins 197 (1973), 215 (1974) and 266 (1976) can help in describing the modifications made to the 260Z over time - there may be additional bulletins that I do not know about. I find the Nissan parts catalogues useful but they can be expensive. My most recent edition has publication # C-001OR dated December 1977 (sixth edition) The Haynes publications come up on Ebay fairly regularly. Search books on this website for additional recommendations and comments. Hope this helps

That is a truly outstanding first post. Great pics and great work. I was particularly impressed with your dash restoration. When you casually said "The dashboard was severely tired. So I took it out and and spent a few days repairing it" I thought about how that can be one of the more difficult parts of a project. You obviously have a breadth of skills in car restoration and purchased a good incomplete project vehicle. Nice to be able to do such quality work yourself. I am in awe of what you have accomplished in less than 12 months I look forward to hearing more about the project as it nears completion and would be interested to hear more about yourself and what else you have done in the car world.

Man Cave Part 2 The initial version of my shed and man cave was not even finished before it was evident that additional space, features and versatility were required. I read an article from Grass Roots Motorsport on the features that others had included in their sheds, plus there have been some excellent features from others who have posted in this thread. It was now or never to set this facility up properly so I bit the bullet and finally ordered a Molnar SM440 four post hoist which became a bit of a saga and will likely be summarised in a future thread. I also added an additional two bay car port where the two 4WD and the tractor are parked. My infinitely better half advised that I may as well set it up so that I could live in it so the facility now has its own satellite TV and internet. The rear and side walls are lined and insulated which makes it fairly comfortable in our moderate climate The lined walls are painted white and the red and blue angled BRE stripes copied on to the rear walls. The Zeds live on a carpeted floor which is itself painted with Rustoleum two pack paint from Bunnings. The accumulation of Zed memorabilia and some other stuff from my old rally days adorns the rear wall. That is an adjustable pendant power point hanging down above the blue Zed - useful and easy to use. I have a bit of a collection of model Zeds still in their boxes waiting to be assembled. Four of the models are rally cars and will get first priority for assembly and display. The pics on the left hand frame are taken from the 50th Anniversary calendar sold by Sean Dezart. I had some stickers made up of the results of some of the higher profile achievements of the Zeds on the competition scene . I won an Ebay auction for a copy of the limited edition (300) Zed poster and found BRE to have some excellent memorabilia, clothing, posters and models – including a limited edition model signed by Peter Brock (of BRE) and John Morton. On the matter of BRE I cannot speak too highly of how professional and pleasant my dealings with them have been. The quality of product, the effort to minimize freight costs and the security of the careful packaging are first class. Thankyou Gayle and Monty. My rally corner has quite a way to go but at least I can now wander by and enjoy the memories. Nearly all of my shelving and work stations are on wheels. This 3 metre long work bench made from pallet racking now has its own LED lighting in the roof, several power points, slatwall sides with a variety of fixtures, shelving top and bottom. If you are intending to do something similar then ensure that you have strong wheels as you will be surprised at how heavy it can be made to be when loaded up. The Rustoleum painted floor can be seen under the bench in this pic. That is a chest freezer at the door. I have yet to install a bar fridge but it is coming. One of the bays does not have a sliding door and I have lined most of it but deliberately left a gap in between the mid section so that I can put some more horizontal timbers between the vertical support posts for shelving. I have a collection of Dick Smith clear plastic peanut butter bottles filled with screws, oddments etc. They are easy to label and easy to view. The lids are permanently screwed up into the horizontal timber above – saves stacking containers on top of one another And for my last oic I have put a 55” TV down at the far end of the shed. It is big enough to see what is going on from almost any position in the shed but it is closest to the hoist bay and the workshop bay where I will spend most of my time. Had sensational days last Sunday watching the Bathurst 12 hour and Monday watching the Super Bowl while I was cleaning vehicles and organising stuff in the shed. There is still plenty to be done but at least I am getting on to it and progressing. Thanks for your comments, ideas and previous posts

TOO KEEN TOO SOON My first Zed was the safari gold 2+2 in 2005. I jumped in without any budget, scraped together the funds for the purchase, no vision or plan as I just wanted to get into a Zed and enjoy the ride. At the time I was working in a job where I had unlimited shed space and things got out of hand as I increased the stable to five cars, four of them registered and two designated as parts cars. I changed jobs in 2007 and lost my storage space so the remaining three registered Zeds in the pic were all crammed into a double bay 6 metres wide, 7 metres deep, with a single sliding door. The parts car was parked under the eave and suffered horribly over time – we live near the south coast in a damp cool climate. The project cars had some excellent work done on them from the ground up including rust repairs but as yet no final paint to finish them off. The parts car was sent to its final resting place, Martin sold the daily driver for me. I could now comfortably squeeze my two project cars into the double bay but there was still too much stuff in there to be able to properly store and work on the cars. The original shed area was like a sardine tin as I also had a workbench, tools, car parts, cleaning gear, camping equipment, bicycles and paddle craft sharing the space. Most of the work on my cars was done by Martin Falconer of Tuneright so I often had either the blue or black project car parked at his place. The gold car was my daily driver. I might clarify here that the area behind the roller doors had been commandeered by my infinitely better half and was not able to be used for my vehicles, which she calls the 260Y, or has suggested that they would make good water features in the dam below the house! I do not mind admitting that I had created my own chaos and that I spent money on purchasing and working on the two project cars when I should have paused and built a decent storage / workshop facility. I then built two sheds for processing garlic which was only seasonal and would be used by the Zeds for the rest of the year. In 2015 I finally came up with a proposal to build a combined shed and self contained granny flat, with a carport for a caravan, shower and toilet for shed users and visitors. I had just finally finished an eleven year boundary dispute with my local government authority which resulted in approximately two acres of land being returned to me, the public road shifted away from our house, and allowed me a site to build our proposed project. The building project was done as my second effort as an owner builder but the vast majority of the work was coordinated by a local identity who did an outstanding job and saved me a bundle. Shed faces east and gets morning sun 4 enclosed bays 16 metres wide Bays are 7.5 metres deep Sliding Doors Caravan in carport behind old red Toyota Hilux – the “Boganmobile TO BE CONTINUED Deleted pics

Further References to the Goertz Myth Classic Z Threads https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/33633-24th-october-1969-the-s30-series-z-public-debut/ https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/33645-who-actually-did-s30s-styling-we-can-make-it-clear/ https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57902-the-s30-design-isnt-helped-by/ Auszcar Thread https://www.viczcar.com/forums/topic/6503-nissan-z-a-40-year-history-of-teh-z-sports-car-in-australia-book-special/

Great spread and two very nice examples of the S30 highlighted in the article. The one disappointment in the article was the perpetuation of the Goertz myth. This has been a sore thumb in the records of Datsun S30 history for decades and has been comprehensively addressed on other sites. It is a little frustrating that the research done for a recent book published in Australia and in articles such as this continue to fall back on the old articles of times gone by. For those that want to read into this a little more you search "Goertz Myth" on ClassicZ and there is some discussion of same on this site after a book was published by an Australian motoring historian, but I cannot find it just now. Otherwise, great article and good to see the S30 given such prominence in its 50th year.

I bought a cover from Classicman and received a fairly priced quality product that was an excellent fit for my Zed which lives in a dry protected sealed shed with no moisture to speak of. The shed heats up during each day with clear roof sheets in part of the structure. There is no wind movement so no rubbing on the paint. The fabric feels great. The service and communications I received were outstanding. If I was to have less shelter provided by the structure, or if I had a bigger budget or a hugely valuable car, I would be thinking of investigating a Carcoon Car Cover that can come with a air circulation unit. Searched Ebay with this name and I saw several variants are available for up to $2500 landed in Australia. One of their offerings is a double skinned outdoor cover. Australian shop for Carcoon https://www.carcoon.com.au/ The Bunnings offering is tempting but I would only be tempted to use it as an additional shelter within another shelter. FWIW Dave

I love this style of post in this thread, and I really like the thread. Some of the offerings are just sensational (and expensive) - the things that I can only dream of. 72240Z's post shows a newly constructed shed, two project cars with the green car parked right into a corner and a project Zed the most prominent feature. The post has me wondering about what is planned for the fit out of the shed with regards to storage, work benches and fittings, power, lighting and so on.There looks to be plenty of space available but we all know how quickly any available space can be over filled. Some of the biggest issues facing car enthusiasts are those of budgets, storage, fit out, lighting, equipment and work space. The pic seems to indicate that there is a good amount of space available here and that there is a lot of development to come. Really looking forward to hearing more from 72240Z with plans of where you take both the garage and the Zed from this point onwards. And for those that have already posted details of their personal man caves. please do keep them coming and maybe even consider posting updates of what you have done since you last posted. Regards Dave

It was common for some people to put mph figures around the edge of speedometers in the late sixties and early seventies. Have not seen it for a while. However, in this instance the conversion is more than a little loose and could cost the driver some speeding fines. Really nice looking car and I imagine the L20 motor would be highly desirable on its own. EDIT : Sorry about this comment - I was completely off base with an incorrect assumption and did not look at the pics closely. Now that Cracker caused me to look at this closer I would think that the L20 motor would be one of the least desirable features of the car. Now working hard on extracting foot from mouth.

I recently placed an order with Sean and expected to pay a surcharge(s) of some kind and did not pay much notice to them - a $162 order ended up being a little over $172 and I thought that was okay. I have not looked into the breakdown of the additional charges but maybe it is a greater proportion of the total if the amount to be paid is smaller. Maybe if people got together, and put in their order and paid a single transaction, they might cut down the proportion of the surcharges. Great idea to put out a second run of the stickers for those like myself who are 260Z owners. I will be ordering some of those with my next order. Best wishes with all of this Sean. It has obviously had a lot of thought and time given to an enterprise that promotes the S30, and for which there is no personal financial gain for yourself.

I think I need to start this post by apologizing for not clearly linking my “spiel” to the subject and content of the topic. My brevity did not transfer to clarity and I certainly did not intend to lecture a knowledgeable Forum on the nuts and bolts of a topic that many members (but less so guests) are well aware of. d3cOy, the “spiel” was not a cut and post but was a paraphrase of posts I have made on AusZcar and ClassicZ over several years. The history of my posts will bear this out and I think that if your former salutation was 44014, we shared in contributing to the thread Topic “How Many Z’s” http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/12603-how-many-zs/ which discussed a lot of the issues touched on in this current thread. The two service bulletins quoted in the above topic were by : · AndBir advised that he had purchased Service Bulletin Vol.197 Modification Of Datsun 260Z Model S30 Series 1973 off eBay. · myself with reference to Service Bulletin Vol.215 Modification Of Datsun 260Z Model S30 Series 1974 applied to new models starting with RS30 005001. This topic “How any Z’s” refers to possibly only 600 RS30 vehicles being sold in Australia. As to the question of why it might seem to be less desirable than the 260Z despite the improvements made over time, it might also have something to do with the fact that the 240Z was a comparative revolution that exploded on to the market. It was helped by an East African Safari victory and a Monte Carlo third place plus considerable success on the racing scene in Asia and North America. By the time the 260Z was released, despite Stewart McLeod and Ross Dunkertons achievements on the Australian Rally Champonship from 1974 to 1977, factory support was waning for the S30 and the Violet and later the Stanza were becoming the more favoured vehicles from a Datsun perspective. The last two paragraphs are purely subjective as are the comments I made earlier about the reactions to the mechanical differences. FWIW Dave

The 260Z two seater did not remain the same throughout its production - Service Bulletins detailed the changes made at intervals to the RS30 and these changes continued to be made right to the near end of production e.g. the vented bonnet was only found in the later years. Throughout the production of the RS30, changes were made to body, exhaust, suspension, seat mounts, wider alloy wheels, lights, tow hooks were introduced and so on. I agree with Gilltech that the car became more refined, heavier, stronger, and probably improved in many areas. However, the silhouette was largely unchanged. It was during the production of the 260Z that the newly legislated anti pollution features were added to the 260Z and the introduction of the square topped carbies was generally unpopular - today many later S30's reverted to the original round top carbies or changed to fuel injection or triple carburettors e.g. weber, dellorto, mikuni. The North American market almost bypassed the 260Z (only two years?) and went to the L28 fuel injected motor with 280Z. FWIW Dave

Do not be distracted about a hoist Cliff. I am sure that the forum is more excited about the fact that you have taken the leap into the adventure of refreshing your car and we all wish you well with it. It is truly a commitment that rarely goes to plan but there is a lot of empathy and support available on this forum. Good luck with it all. Regards Dave

Great post. I am thinking that a hoist might be a more valuable addition to my shed than I ever thought before if for no other reason than I can put the car in the best position for me to work on it. I am finding that once I attain a horizontal position on my trolley under the car, then I have much greater difficulty in returning to the vertical than I have ever experienced before. Beer seems to exacerbate the problem. Good to hear that you are making the start Cliff. Keep it going and keep us posted. All the best to you.

With regard to the publication dates, I have two copies of the parts manual both with publication # C-0010R but one is dated December 1973 and the other December 1977 so I think it is the date of publication that is relevant in determining when they were published. I bought both of my manuals off Ebay several years ago - from memory they sold for approximately $180 and $225. I was very keen to get an older parts manual that came up on Ebay but lost with, from memory, a $550 Australian dollar bid. I was surprised to have lost the auction but I found out later that the winning bidder was a highly respected and very committed Zed owner with an early car in his stable. http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/21912-datsun-240z-s30-rh-parts-catalogue/?hl=%2Bparts+%2Bcatalogue http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/23351-parts-catalog-rhd-1977/?hl=%2Bparts+%2Bcatalogue I have not seen one come up for sale for some time. Mike Gholson of ClassicZ sells CD's with the Nissan microfiche details on them for a very reasonable price - refer to ClassicZ website. Outstanding offer of access to the materials you have YosemiteZed. Regards Dave