jeff43 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Hi HBB Jeff, I can relate to the no "running car to drive", must be why I enjoyed driving the Zed so much today. Glad it was only simulation as I would have totalled a whole heap of Zed's around the mountain today otherwise. I must say it is the best simulation I have driven to date. I hope you enjoy it when you get it. Cheers Jeff HomeBuiltByJeff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3c0y Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I've developed the setup a bit more Jeff, and I'm going for 2:30 flat! If any of us are on together we should start an online game and do some zed racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBR Jeff Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Both you Jeff’s need to get off the computer and into your sheds ? Jeff HomeBuiltByJeff and gav240z 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff43 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) I agree Jeff, maybe I should move the simulator to the shed. Jake, I have set a new benchmark 2:29:537 I think from memory and there is still some time on the table and yes definitely Keen for some Zed racing. Cheers Jeff Edited December 29, 2017 by jeff43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 You blokes better set some ground rules, like no driver aids for the S30? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff43 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 You blokes better set some ground rules, like no driver aids for the S30? Good point. For what it is worth I haven't even looked at driver aids, I'm just running default time trial settings whatever they are. HomeBuiltByJeff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBuiltByJeff Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Both you Jeff’s need to get off the computer and into your sheds Jeff I am going to get into the shed in a minute and build a simulation rig P.S. There is an overload of Jeff's around here CBR Jeff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3c0y Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Good point. For what it is worth I haven't even looked at driver aids, I'm just running default time trial settings whatever they are. Man a 2:29 is a good effort, but mine was done with all aids off including ABS. The only thing that I have turned on is the braking zone as its hard to learn all the different tracks while racing otherwise. I don't think it provides any advantage when doing time attack like this. I think you will find that when you go in and turn everything off it will be a completely different kettle of fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBuiltByJeff Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I just built my sim racing rig today, and finally got to have a go. I haven't got any aids on and I am yet to get a complete lap. I am still getting used to the whole thing (I have never actually owned a PS or Xbox before). I have started changing the brake bias, as the rear were locking up like crazy and if I was even slightly off of dead straight when braking I would spin. I think I have a lot more practice to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff43 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Man a 2:29 is a good effort, but mine was done with all aids off including ABS. The only thing that I have turned on is the braking zone as its hard to learn all the different tracks while racing otherwise. I don't think it provides any advantage when doing time attack like this. I think you will find that when you go in and turn everything off it will be a completely different kettle of fish. Default time trial is all driver aids off, so that time of 1:29:579 is with everything off. I had to play with settings and then just practice, practice to beat your time Jake and then I chased the Ghost of the previous best lap to learn where I needed to be better. I had to chase car setup to find more mechanical grip to be able to match him through turn one and get the drive off there to match him up mountain straight, once I did that there was places that I was quicker that allowed me to beat his time by a fair bit. I also ran 3.7 diff ratio, happy to share setup if you would like however I think setup is often an individual thing. Jeff I run brake bias F:70, R:30 to help stop the spin on corner entry, skyline is particularly hard, you need to get the car as straight as possible on entry and be very gentle on the brakes. Brake feel is everything, you need ease of the brake pedal to get just the right amount of weight on the front of the car to turn in - to much and it will under steer, not enough and it will under steer. I also run brake pressure at 70. I'll be honest I get a bit obsessive when I'm in the seat and I have spent more hours than I care to admit getting the lap just right, it is a real dance on the edge of control all the way across the top. Enjoy lads. d3c0y and HomeBuiltByJeff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 Bathurst is a hell of a circuit and almost impossible to get just right but I fluked a great lap (for me) in the IMSA 300ZX and went over a second below my previous best lap. It is all about practice, practice, practice. Two 30 is a pretty realistic balls to the wall lap time for the S30 going on the real times the boys have done there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff43 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I actually did a 10 lap race in the 240Z yesterday. I set the computer drivers (all in 240Z's) to the highest setting possible, again no driving aids and I got flogged. My best time was a low 2:31 and there best laps were all in the 2:27 and 2:28 with the winner just dipping into the 2:26's - crazy fast. I was impressed that I only crashed once and one of the other cars gave me a hand there. I can now lap consistently fast (2:32 ish) without crashing and pretty much hit all my apexes etc with the car behaving very predictably, feels very realistic to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBuiltByJeff Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Still getting the hang of it, but changing some of those settings has made a world of difference. 70/30 brake bias, and 3.7 diff ratios are about all I have done for now, but I am getting there. I built a super simple Rig, and of course I made a video of it d3c0y and RLY240 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBR Jeff Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 kids today..... Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBuiltByJeff Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 ...and my bloody brand new wheel has stopped working!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3c0y Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Default time trial is all driver aids off, so that time of 1:29:579 is with everything off. I had to play with settings and then just practice, practice to beat your time Jake and then I chased the Ghost of the previous best lap to learn where I needed to be better. I had to chase car setup to find more mechanical grip to be able to match him through turn one and get the drive off there to match him up mountain straight, once I did that there was places that I was quicker that allowed me to beat his time by a fair bit. I also ran 3.7 diff ratio, happy to share setup if you would like however I think setup is often an individual thing. Jeff I run brake bias F:70, R:30 to help stop the spin on corner entry, skyline is particularly hard, you need to get the car as straight as possible on entry and be very gentle on the brakes. Brake feel is everything, you need ease of the brake pedal to get just the right amount of weight on the front of the car to turn in - to much and it will under steer, not enough and it will under steer. I also run brake pressure at 70. I'll be honest I get a bit obsessive when I'm in the seat and I have spent more hours than I care to admit getting the lap just right, it is a real dance on the edge of control all the way across the top. Enjoy lads. Man that is really a mega lap with no aids, well done. I'm dubious as to the other two times (one faster and one slower than you) being without aids though as they aren't even setting the car up and as I'm sure you will agree out of the box it's borderline undriveable. I'm struggling to see where you would find 3 seconds on that kind of lap though because that is a huge amount more. I'm interested in seeing your setup too and what differences we have. I have been playing with the diff lock up lately to help the drive out of the corners but it was effecting the turn in across the mountain a lot. I also have the car just touching the rev limiter at the end of conrod straight with the 3.9 and some tweaked gear ratios. I gave it a couple of hours the other day but couldn't string together a complete lap. Nice work on the seat too Jeff 2, i'm sitting on a couch with a stand and it's not ideal and end up getting a sore back after playing for too long so I should probably sort something out myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBuiltByJeff Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 My seat set up was super quick using scraps I had lying around. Works great. I had a weird issue the other day, where the wheel dropped out in the middle of a race, but after loading it on another game it worked on PC2 again. I am still working on looking at it like a real car. I get in video game mode and drive too hard. I have never had a gaming system before (well not since the Atari 2600 A’s a kid) so my experience is from using mates ones a few times. I am enjoying the process though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBuiltByJeff Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 My seat set up was super quick using scraps I had lying around. Works great. I had a weird issue the other day, where the wheel dropped out in the middle of a race, but after loading it on another game it worked on PC2 again. I am still working on looking at it like a real car. I get in video game mode and drive too hard. I have never had a gaming system before (well not since the Atari 2600 A’s a kid) so my experience is from using mates ones a few times. I am enjoying the process though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff43 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (well not since the Atari 2600 A’s a kid) The old Atari 2600 - showing your age there Jeff. I use to play Asteroids on a friends one for hours. Jake I'm back at work today so I will post some setup tonight. Cheers Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3c0y Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 No rush. I had an Atari 2600 too Skate or Die and Joust are the titles that stand out for me. HomeBuiltByJeff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregTas Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Still got my Atari 2600 and also a Vic20. Asteroids amused me for hours too. HomeBuiltByJeff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff43 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Setup pages. I haven't touched the dampers or the differential Edited January 2, 2018 by jeff43 d3c0y and HomeBuiltByJeff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter t Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Gotta get a setup. Being a DF how do I go about getting all the gear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBuiltByJeff Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Gotta get a setup. Being a DF how do I go about getting all the gear? I just went through this same situation. I found unless you have a powerful PC capable of running the game, the cheapest easiest method I could find was getting a xBox one, or Playstation and a wheel set up. I went for the Thrustmaster TMX Pro which from my research is a reasonable wheel. Not the cheapest, but not the craziest. Not that cheap to get into if you don't have anything to start with. I am not a gamer so I had to start from scratch. peter t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter t Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I just went through this same situation. I found unless you have a powerful PC capable of running the game, the cheapest easiest method I could find was getting a xBox one, or Playstation and a wheel set up. I went for the Thrustmaster TMX Pro which from my research is a reasonable wheel. Not the cheapest, but not the craziest. Not that cheap to get into if you don't have anything to start with. I am not a gamer so I had to start from scratch. Just did some pricing at HN. Logitech G920 wheel and pedals $498. X-box one $327. Shifter $0. Game $69. Total $894. Their racing seat set up $600. Will give that a miss. It will have to be a HBBJ design. Was going to go PC but my $900 PC won't even look at running it. Just have to put to the finance committee and start having a bit of fun. HomeBuiltByJeff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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