DAZDA Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 A few months ago my very first post on these forums was about a business I have used and recommend. Unfortunately, it was removed and at the same time I was given some negative karma. I'm surprised you guys are so harsh on newbies. If you weren't sure about me, ask Lurch (I have come over from another Datsun forum of which he is the moderator). Or was it you Lurch that deleted my post? Also, if there are rules about what you can and can't post in the "Recommended Business" section then perhaps that should be in a 'sticky' thread at the top?? Kind regards, DAZDA Quote
620Z Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 Mate we are over people joining this site and trying to flog their stuff. Feel free to join up and chat about anything. But in my opinion unless you have 50 posts against your name don't start trying to sell stuff. That will prove you are a serious Zed fan and interested in the site. Anything prior to 50 is simply opportunistic. Quote
DAZDA Posted February 6, 2011 Author Posted February 6, 2011 If it is posted in the businesses section, what's the issue? It's not like you have to read all the threads/posts, you can pick and choose as you see fit. I can understand if it was posted all over the place or in the wrong section, but I thought the whole point of a recommended business section would be to encourage Zed fans towards good businesses... Maybe it was because it was my first post... I can kind of see why that would seem more doubtful. Quote
handsandwhich Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 I'd say as it was your first post, it would just look like an advertisement, not a recommendation. Maybe people need to clarify if they have any affiliation with the business they are recommending? Maybe their brother or sisters boyfriend owns/runs the business and this would probably look to me as more of an advertisement than a recommendation. DAZDA, noticed in your sig you have 2 different businesses listed there. Either you got the most awesome service from them that you thought it worth spruiking them to others, or you are affiliated with them in some way or another? Either way, doesn't bother me, just an observation as to why it would seem like advertising and not recommending. Quote
DAZDA Posted February 7, 2011 Author Posted February 7, 2011 handsandwhich, well spotted and good point. Indeed I have listed two businesses, and I have received exceptional assistance and service from these businesses. Which is why I have them listed in my personal signature rather than some lame quote or a vanity picture of me or my car. IMO Businesses that provide good service need all the support they can get. Quote
luvemfast Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Its the same as that rust bullet guy last week. Newbie who only talked about rust bullet as a question, worked as I remembered it! Quote
Bigfella Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Which is why I have them listed in my personal signature rather than some lame quote or a vanity picture of me or my car. IMO Businesses that provide good service need all the support they can get. What as the rest of us do Quote
reverendzed Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Uhmmm, easier to see through than a stained glass window! I love businesses who assist the Zed community but to list them the way you have certainly looks like there is an affiliation that goes way beyond good service...just sayin! Rev. Quote
620Z Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 The bottom line is get 50 posts up first. Why would anybody take a recommendation to use a business from someone we don't know. That is just stupid. You wouldn't just tap anyone on the shoulder in the street and ask them who they recommend! Same on this site we want to get recommendations from reputable people. Reputable is sort of like people with a reputation. That is only earnt over time through interation on this site. Then we can make a judgement call on weather someone is serious or full of it. As we all know the net is full of people blowing their own trumpets. And that my boy is "why we are so harsh". You asked, we told. Quote
benny Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Why would anybody take a recommendation to use a business from someone we don't know. That is just stupid. You wouldn't just tap anyone on the shoulder in the street and ask them who they recommend! But we all share a common theme here. We are interested in cars, datsuns, zeds, motorsport etc. The stuff the DAZDA has recommended relates to these interests. I know of people who have recommended businesses based on there past experiences and they have turned out to be no good for others. Its hit and miss for alot of different services, so just use you head and work out if its right for you!! Ben Quote
stevo_gj Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 I could probably put it more diplomatically, but Id say the same as Craig in the end. Us mods have to spend a fair bit of time removing advertising of all sorts from the site (mostly spam) If we don't have strict criteria then anyone could advertise and the value of the recommended businesses section would be nil. The last thing we want are businesses who make accounts here to advertise their products without supporting the site in some way. Also this won't rally many people here to your cause: Which is why I have them listed in my personal signature rather than some Lame quote or a vanity picture of me or my car. Quote
Hypnotictortoise Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Just to get this straigt, if I insult 90% of the members they won't be predisposed to like me?!?! Go figure lol Quote
C.A.R. Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Dazda is on the level & he owns a Zed. Let him be. Quote
DAZDA Posted February 7, 2011 Author Posted February 7, 2011 I guess my question has been answered. Thanks to all for their responses. P.S. Thanks Lurch Quote
Scoota G Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Dazda is on the level & he owns a Zed. Let him be. Ok i gave him a + karma. Have you put up some pics? I have been involved with this club for over 3 Years now, i say get involved not just on the forum but the cruises and meetings. It is more than just worth it. Quote
luvemfast Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Dazda is on the level & he owns a Zed. Let him be. Don't be a hypocrite Lurch ANYONE else who advertises a business on their first post usually cops it....... Just because you know the guy, shouldn't make a difference. If Dazda owns a Z, you should have encouraged him to the Introduction section. Its encouraged for all! There is no problem of the recommendation............ If it was after a while, not straight up. Just my 2 cents Oh, and welcome Dazda. Pics of your ride would be great Quote
C.A.R. Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Of course I can be a Hypocrite, Simon. It's my prerogative! Quote
chris240 Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 fyi.. Capital steering is a superb local business , I was camped in their workshop last week while they worked on my zed, cant recommend them enough.. 5th gear undertake defensive driver training and driver education as well as hosting track days...Ive been to one of their day sessions on the track and found the guys to be great...the owner loved my zed dazda , what sort of zed do you have, what side of town are you on ? Quote
luvemfast Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Of course I can be a Hypocrite, Simon. It's my prerogative! ha ha ha ha On a side note, and closer to the original topic. There was a driver training day a couple of years ago at Sandown, do these still happen? Would be interesting to get a group together to put our mouths where our ego's are! Quote
bluerat Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Bugger.....I though this might of been about his engine choice. Quote
dat2kman Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Yeh, me too, hay DAZDA, whats the story with your rotary connection? I too have a rotary, it is a histroric sports sedan ( group U) and I am trying to get it finished, gets some events under it's wheels and then look to selling it off. I am more Datsun than Mazda anyway, but, it seemed like a interesting idea at the time!! I'm Brisbane based, and am aware of the gun shops down there, (issy Sveticic and Guru) Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted February 7, 2011 Administrators Posted February 7, 2011 Bugger.....I though this might of been about his engine choice. Not at all, I'm a rotary man myself now FD RX-7. But I still love the L-series donk so don't worry my S30 will remain L-series. I think a 13B is the perfect powerplant for a 510 though brap brap. Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted February 7, 2011 Administrators Posted February 7, 2011 By the way DAZDA we get lots of spammers signing up regularly to the site posting links to all kinds of sites. You can usually tell a spammer because they have links in their signature to all kinds of sites. I appreciate anyone taking the time to recommend a business but as Craig has mentioned it's good to first establish who you are in the community and then your recommendation has a bit more authenticity to it. Don't worry about the Karma thing, it was really more of an experiment to see if it would add value to the community. At this stage the jury is till out on that 1. So what I'm saying is it might not remain a feature on the site forever. I gave you a +karma anyway hope it makes you feel better . Quote
luvemfast Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Don't worry about the Karma thing, it was really more of an experiment to see if it would add value to the community. At this stage the jury is till out on that 1. So what I'm saying is it might not remain a feature on the site forever. I gave you a +karma anyway hope it makes you feel better . Is there a way I can give a big NEGATIVE to Karma? Thinks it has run its course Quote
DAZDA Posted February 7, 2011 Author Posted February 7, 2011 Yeh, me too, hay DAZDA, whats the story with your rotary connection? I too have a rotary, it is a histroric sports sedan ( group U) and I am trying to get it finished, gets some events under it's wheels and then look to selling it off. I am more Datsun than Mazda anyway, but, it seemed like a interesting idea at the time!! I'm Brisbane based, and am aware of the gun shops down there, (issy Sveticic and Guru) Dat2kman, I guess my connection to rotary engines started when I bought my first rallycar, a Mazda RX-2. It was fitted with an EFI, Bridgeported 12A. Also as an engineer I can appreciate the elegance of the mechanical efficiency (three moving parts, less amplitude on the intake and exhaust flow pulses, the potential to make a lot of power, etc). There is a certain appeal about the inlet air flow not having to slam into a closed inlet valve all the time, but maybe that is just me. Can you please tell me more about your rotary powered historic sports sedan (if you are happy to share)? At this stage my DAZDA projects are still just that, projects (Time and Money and all that). I plan to put a NA 13B into my 1600 (I agree with you Gav240z) and am considering putting a 20B into an HS30 (as much as others may view this as sacrilege)... Gav240z, The FD RX-7s are a beautiful car (almost as good looking as Zed! ) great choice! I forgot to add, I'll try and get some pictures of my Zed up here soon. Quote
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