thinking drift and my 260 2+2

[leonZ]

hey guys I've been wanting to try drifting for a while now and want to know what kind of mods ill need to get the power I'm after, weather or not its going to cost a fortune and if ill have to change over to manual transmission. atm the car is fairly standard it has bell tops, electric dizzy, extractors into 2.25 exhaust. I'm taking the car to B and M fuel systems on Monday to get a dyno tune as iv only had backyard mechanics tune it by ear up till now . so what else should i do to have a chance at drifting the old girl. any thoughts are welcome

[C.A.R.]

Buckley's & none.

If you want to be a drift fag, buy an S13.

[reverendzed]

To drift successfully you need to have no job, no aspirations, no drive, no worries and then you will definitely drift...Oh you mean the sideways thingy...sorry! both are just bouncing along the bottom anyway!

[C.A.R.]

LOLZ @ the new swear word auto correct:

The 'F word' comes out as 'Fudge'.

Sh*t comes out as 'Shiver'

And 'F a g' comes out as 'Nancy Boy'

Hahahaha...

[OZ001]

hey guys I've been wanting to try drifting for a while now and want to know what kind of mods ill need to get the power I'm after, weather or not its going to cost a fortune and if ill have to change over to manual transmission. atm the car is fairly standard it has bell tops, electric dizzy, extractors into 2.25 exhaust. I'm taking the car to B and M fuel systems on Monday to get a dyno tune as iv only had backyard mechanics tune it by ear up till now . so what else should i do to have a chance at drifting the old girl. any thoughts are welcome

 

i have seen a 280zx drift, but nothing with a s30... buy and s13 like lurch said, if u smash it, u can replace the whole thing for 800 bucks.. please dont drift the 260, its rare as it is maybe someone might wanna save it one day, dont turn such things into drift pigs.

 

i know these guys will toture me cause im turning my 280zx to drift/track, but more track. but hey up to u, if u wanna throw away such a rarity then do it. no pressure.

 

seriously... if u're serious about drift get a ae86, s13 there's plenty out there.

[mtopxsecret6]

Hmm, i'll give a real answer i think, over the last two clowns. It's really only up to your suspension setup. Improved diff. Power really doesn't come into effect until you get the experience courage to start sliding 100m before the corner. Take the car the a proper suspension shop, not pedders, and tell them what you want it for. A bit of a basic concept would be to stiffen the roll of the car(stronger sway bars. You want a stronger bar on the rear to naturally induce over steer), lower the car slightly(this is for centre of gravity, not too look wanky), You want to push the caster on your front wheels forward(this enables the wheels to naturally swing back and forth when your transitioning through corners), stiffer spring rates. Stronger clutch, better brakes all round. That is a starting point.

 

Then from there you want to look at performance, better tyres etc etc. There is a 240z here in brisbane who competes in dori comps.

[lightmaster240z]

Sorry but you had that one coming  ::)Mister grumpy need his milk at this time of night

[Cdr Zero]

I reckon go for it, there's plenty of people smashing up their Z's in rallies and at tracks anyway.  It would look pretty sweet too! 

[zr240]

haaa when I saw this post I knew I had to have a look just to see lurches response. even rev is getting on the wagon.

 

such a welcoming forum this

 

As the other people who gave a valued respose said I think a zed would be a great drift car the only issue I have is that they are going up in value so much its better value to get a s13 etc and you get cheaper replacement parts, newer motor etc

 

but at the end of the day its your car so go for it it you really want!

 

Ash

[620Z]

My tip is you won't be able to afford it. After you do what mtopxsecret6 suggests which is close to the mark you will be out of pocked 5-8K. Then you will have to constantly tune and change tyres costing you another 1K every 4-6 months leaving you with no money to buy a meal a Maca's.

Good luck with it and report in when all the mods are done. 

[sco_aus]

Give it a go, for sure, would be cool to see a zed on the DA circuit... But...

 

The cost of the tires gets stupid, even with sponsors=cost price (you won't get free tires till you are performing really well).  One big thing you need is steering lock, Zeds dont have much.  But if you do it, you don't want a car that is all about oversteer, its not about that, you need balance, good grip, responsive power/torque and a pair the size of that demolition robot on Transformers.  I have a few mates who do it semi pro and its expensive, time consuming, but so addictive (for them, im not into it).  Forget AE86s if you want to be competitive, unless you are prepared to spend lots of money on a completely different setup.  Trust me, a worked 4AGZ/TE engine doesn't cut it toward the upper competition and becomes unreliable after about 160rwkw, especially after its been cracked open.

 

Ultimately, about the only thing S30s have going for them for drifting is good balance and the ability to do an easy engine conversion.  What they dont have is the aftermarket suspension support, the costs will hit you hard. 

Tires is a case of trial and error, but don't think that having cheese cutters on the rear is going to make drifting easy... that is called power oversteer and you will look like a douche.

 

Anyways, that's my rant finished.  If you need any advice from my mates or whatever, give me a buzz.

[chartoo]

That said s30 drifting does look good

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Amazing-drift-action-in_73220.htm

[OZ001]

HOLY SUGAR BALLS!!!!!!!!!! thas awesome

[nizm0zed]

 

I think if you want to get into drifting, better to work and learn with a hack S13 or something, nice and cheap, plenty of parts around for a good price, LOTS of knowledge and when you are confident drifting, take the zed out for the occasional 'show off' which keeps the risk and costs down substansially.

[bluerat]

Mate, go for it. Zed's are not rare, far from it, they are cheap to build, replacement fibreglass panels are easy to get. mtopsecret6 is spot on, get a 4.8 or 4.6 R180 from a 720 ute, tighten the handbrake and go and try a local event. No pressure, just have some fun....

[(Locky)]

i actually drift my s14 and as cool as it would be i wouldnt do it to a 240/260

 

vid of trackday in the wet

 

 

 

best quote i heard when i was starting drift was from alexi at initial drift

"if you can go out and hit your car with a basball bat alot , and still love it afterwards. Drift is for you"

 

basically its a quick way to rape a car, and if you are worried about damaging the car, you wont get better (alot of friends have a problem with this)

 

also drift cars need alot of steering lock

 

silvias have decent lock and i wet from spacers to aftermarket rack ends, to modified knuckles, now im looking to get the LCA's modified in the quest for more lock

 

and the 240 doesnt een have close to factory s14 lock

 

 

might be fun to chuck some sway bars in and a locked diff and hae some fun/ learn car control at a skidpan

 

but wouldnt build a s30z as a "drift car"

 

[T.A.P]

Mate, go for it. Zed's are not rare, far from it, they are cheap to build

 

You must be high or something...

[OZ001]

^+1

[pauly_adams]

like the post with the video it has been done before, a man in my town done it although he had done a Rb25dett conversion. what you will need will be some good amount of torque and like many others have said some balls, i also agree that suspension is the biggest downfall. what i would be doing is replacing your suspension i would be speaking to benzed for that one as he has weld on kits, get some camber adjusters welded in and run a  quite stranded l28ET setup in your car as they do make good power with minimal cost compared to strokers etc. if you are really keen id go for it.

 

cheers Pauly

[leonZ]

I'm really not sure now , thinking I'm probably better off getting a bomb to learn in first though. cash is a problem at the moment though as I'm still just restoring the old girl so i got a bit of time to think more on if it'll be worth while or if i should keep going with what I'm doing, which is a rolling restoration and my daily drive

[PZG302]

Personally, if you can't afford two cars you can't afford to drift or pretty much any other motorsport other than social track days.

 

If you're not prepared to have your car a smoking crumpled shell on the side of the track it shouldn't be used for competition.

 

I take my Zed out as it is built to be a circuit car and I expect to have it damaged on the track, nature of the game. My MX5 has done two track days and won't be doing any more any time soon as I put it in the wall at Lakeside, thankfully the damage was only cosmetic and to my ego.

 

My ute will never see the track as I can't afford to have it damaged and not covered by insurance, or if I break it mechanically can't afford to fix it when it's not covered by the factory warranty, especially repairing or replacing the six speed auto.

 

My Chugger won't be seeing the track either because after pouring in way too much money it would be heartbreaking to see it damaged.

 

Best bet, keep the dream alive but wait until you have the cash to not only buy a drift pig, but also maintain and run it. Buying the cars is the cheap bit. An example is a typical state race meeting will cost me near $1,000 for entry fee, fuel, tyres and consumables. If it goes bang or crunch then the dollars really add up. Even a simple hill climb will leave not a lot of change from $300 for me.

[bluerat]

Not high champ,  There are at least 5 240/260Z's with in a 20km radius of my house and I hardly live in a high density area! I've seen six different 240/260Z's racing here in Tassie the last 2 years (not counting Rally Tas and the Targas), like I said there not rare, far from it and have you built anything else before?? Zed's are real cheap!! Compare them to anything else, bang for buck, there the bargin of the sporting world!

 

Sorry to highjack your thread, But I'm not the one in dream land....

[T.A.P]

Yup, 3sgte, 5sfe and 1ZZ-FED (yes I was a Toyota person). I do agree that the engines for these babies are cheaper but at the same time they are harder to source. Rebuilding and prepping one for drifting is no where near cheap.

 

The 240/260 are rare and that's a fact, there arent many of those for sale. You seen 5 or 6 around your area it doesn't mean that they aren't rare, you just happened to live in a Z neighborhood that's all.

[sco_aus]

In Canberra, we could probably account for maybe 10 zeds maximum (including members and non...). A population near 400,000... 

Look a couple of my friends learnt to drift in standard AE86s with crappy 4ACs.  Not saying you can't drift, i'm saying to be anything near competetive you need money and a good setup is all.

[stevo_gj]

While we're on the topic, I took my car to a skidpan once. It was a bit of fun but scary, a couple of the other cars bumped into the walls once or twice.

 

http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/topic,3898.0.html

 

I agree with the people saying that Zs are getting rarer. The prices are climbing steadily and in the next decade the only ones that aren't complete basket cases will belong to enthusiasts like us. IMO drift an S13