Mike260LW Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 Hi and welcome locklock. Looks like you have a very early 260Z? A two seater? Quote
locklock Posted July 5, 2015 Author Posted July 5, 2015 Yeah 2 seater. Any members from malaysia here? Quote
zzzzed Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 I think we have had a few Malaysian members come and go. Quote
gilltech Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 That's a very early 260 2-seat, well before the 2+2s became available. I'm interested to see what your car looks like specs-wise. I have #151, NZ-new. Quote
locklock Posted July 5, 2015 Author Posted July 5, 2015 Its uk import. Should be arriving end of july. Unfortunately it has a sunroof Sorry photo abit off. Dont know how to resize.. Quote
chris240 Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 Welcome from KL gee thats a very low number for a 260. Let the journey begin. Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted July 6, 2015 Administrators Posted July 6, 2015 Yeah that's gotta be the earliest 260z (RS30 prefix) car I've seen. Has anyone here got an earlier 1? Hopefully it's a good solid car, having come from the UK where rust can be an issue. Quote
locklock Posted July 6, 2015 Author Posted July 6, 2015 According to my uk agent, he said the car is good. Fingers crossed. Anyway i have a question. Why is 240z more valuable the 260z? When 260z is a better car? Compare to other marques like ford escort 2.0 has better value then 1.6, jaguar mk2 3.4 has better value then 2.4 Is there any other car models that can consider the same scenario as 240z a lower cc has higher value. Quote
Moderators PB260Z Posted July 6, 2015 Moderators Posted July 6, 2015 Anyway i have a question. Why is 240z more valuable the 260z? When 260z is a better car? That depends on what makes someone think a car is better. Personally I think the 2+2 is the better car Compare to other marques like ford escort 2.0 has better value then 1.6, Not sure I agree, Series 1 is more sought after than series 2. Then there is the 1600 Lotus powered cars. But that is just my thoughts Cheers PB Quote
d3c0y Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 early Ferrari 308 GTB vs 328, Ferrari 250 GTO and 330 LMB there are many examples of this. Why is the 260Z a better car than 240Z? Quote
locklock Posted July 6, 2015 Author Posted July 6, 2015 Yeah ford escort mk1 2.0 is much sort after then mk1 1.6. Not sure about ferraris.. Those are out of my league :'( Hmmm why better car... Datsun said it themself Is it because the name 240z is mention more then 260z? Or is it because due to the 260z US specs that reduce HP and bigger bumpers that made the value less attractive now? Both models are almost the same only engine and dashboard is different? Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted July 6, 2015 Administrators Posted July 6, 2015 Perception is reality, people perceive the 240z as the original and better car, somewhat lighter, less emissions constrained, better performance etc.. Hence people value them higher. The RS30 as you say is the same car just different dashboard, rear lights, other trim items etc.. I think the North American market has a lot to do with it, they don't rate the 260z's much. Most talk about the 240z or 280z's but the 260z is often forgotten. So they are better value for money in that respect. I could go on a long list as to why I prefer the early S30z's over the later ones but that is personal bias. Quote
gilltech Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 So it was UK new? Note the different turn indicator set-up on your car to the car in the B&W photo with the Cessna. Both versions seemed to be used for the UK market from all the pictures I've seen. And then my NZ-new car (see avatar) doesn't have the repeaters in the guards, so different again! The Americans tend to forget the 260 as it was a one-year only model there. The 260s were a bit better built in the body than the 240s, but suffered a weight gain. Early '74 260s like yours & mine were very similar in specs to the '73 240, suspension etc, so you have to be careful when ordering parts, as from late '74-on the cars differed in some respects. Quote
dat2kman Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Early type round top carbies fitted to the UK cars? Possibly left overs and no onerous emmssions laws in the UK compared to the USA? Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted July 6, 2015 Administrators Posted July 6, 2015 Early type round top carbies fitted to the UK cars? Possibly left overs and no onerous emmssions laws in the UK compared to the USA? No no, retrofitted. Quote
gilltech Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 No no, retrofitted. That'll be right. My 260 originally had flat tops, water pipes through the intake manifolds & the bulkier air cleaner box with PCV system as a very basic emissions system. AFAIK from photos I've seen the UK cars were the same. Same for the '73 240s, which is one reason why the '72 & earlier cars were preferred in those times. So what exactly is wrong with a sunroof? The subject comes up regularly, everybody slags them off. And so people agonize over trying to find a clean roof skin or some way of 'filling in the hole' at body-rebuild time. Well my car has a pop-up from the era & I'll be keeping it - reason being that I am over 6' & the interior is less claustrophobic & more light-filled (being black is otherwise dark) so I much prefer it over a non-sunroof car. Soon as I hop in I pop the roof up, & the ventilation functions so much better with it being a non-A/C car. Funny, the UK being such a wet climate yet so many Zeds I've seen from there seem to have sunroofs, some with pop-ups but others with the English Webasto type vinyl slide-backs. Quote
locklock Posted July 6, 2015 Author Posted July 6, 2015 Sun roof was the in thing for that particular era i guess.. I think i'll leave it as it is to show the car ownership history. Quote
Mr Camouflage Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Yeah that's gotta be the earliest 260z (RS30 prefix) car I've seen. Has anyone here got an earlier 1? RS30-000037 is in NZ. Quote
HS30-H Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Note the different turn indicator set-up on your car to the car in the B&W photo with the Cessna. Both versions seemed to be used for the UK market from all the pictures I've seen. Correct UK market RS30 spec is depicted in the advertisement with the Cessna. The car on its way to the OP has been modified.. In the UK market, sunroofs were something of an optimistic aftermarket add-on. Most of them were fitted in the 1980s. Flat and rigid glass panel sunroof in small double-curved 2-seater roof usually led to leaks a couple of years down the line, and that's when the floors started to rot... Quote
gilltech Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 In the UK market, sunroofs were something of an optimistic aftermarket add-on That's the optimistic Brits for you. Built so many convertibles over the years, yet one has to wonder how many times an owner actually gets to drive with the roof down in such a wet climate. And yet I would guess that more than half of the UK-origin Zeds I've seen down this way have had a sunroof of some description. I was over there in southern coastal England - East Sussex across to Cornwall - for several weeks in April/May, I've never seen so many MX5s, they're everywhere you look. Good place to be a Mazda dealer! Lots of other rag tops as well. Maybe not so prolific further north perhaps, I don't know. usually led to leaks a couple of years down the line True, from my experience the spring catch softens or loosens over time so the glass doesn't clamp down as tight as it should, & so when closed the glass can even lift a bit at speed. On mine the catch can be adjusted down to compensate, but that may not be the case for all. Locklock would be wise to check his. Obviously the rubber needs to be cared for too. Once again, like everything, maintenance is required. Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted July 7, 2015 Administrators Posted July 7, 2015 Yep in Ireland it was the same, lots of people had convertibles and I could never quite work out why? I guess they are optimistic. I was also once told that in Europe Ireland was the 4th biggest market for Ice Cream. Go figure... Quote
GongZ Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Hello and welcome locklock, You list your 240Z as being a 1972 and its number as being HS30-001503. Looking at the WA Z register (http://wazregister.com/index.php?title=View_ANZIS30_Register_Cars), which does have some obvious inaccuracies, suggests that it would be a late 1971. The register lists both HS30-01436 and HS30-01549 (note the missing leading zero in each number) as being 10/1971 - which would be when their Australian Compliance plates were issued. Is your 240Z a UK delivered car too? Quote
locklock Posted July 7, 2015 Author Posted July 7, 2015 Sorry what is cessna? 240z was bought locally in malaysia. Previous 2 owner im the 3rd.n2nd owner owned it for 30 years++. According to to car grant it says 1972, i read somewhere that cars build after august is considered next year. I guess thats why its says 1972 in the card. Quote
Moderators PB260Z Posted July 7, 2015 Moderators Posted July 7, 2015 Sorry what is cessna? A very popular light aircraft Quote
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