zzzzed Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 Let's just say I have 8k to spend. I have been thinking of swapping over to either an Ls2 or 3 crate engine Would I be better of spending $8k on an rb25/6 Can the ls engine take the punishment that an RB can? Or are their better ways to spend my engine budget. Don't say suspension because I already have that sorted Quote
Scoota G Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 I would be tempted to go SR20DET. Get one set right back in the bay and you can move the rad back further go some seriously good weight balance. Quote
zzzzed Posted November 24, 2014 Author Posted November 24, 2014 I thought about that. But I not sure if I can handle the 4 cylinder farty sound. Quote
260DET Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 LSx properly located will give good weight balance, the only problem with them for circuit work can be oil pressure drop so an Accusump plus a gated sump at least would be essential. Quote
zzzzed Posted November 24, 2014 Author Posted November 24, 2014 Does the standard ls sump fit in a 240z so I could use an of the shelf gated sump? Quote
bluerat Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 Just out of interest I did the scales thing a few months ago with my Zed. With me sitting in it, it came up spot on at 50/50. 1050kg, full steel, L28, Sr box, r200, race seats, 16x8 Superlites, full dash and alloy cage. Oh plus 100kg of me, LOL As for engine, if a race class is not important, the Ls's are impressive. Cheers Hodgo Quote
DAT392 Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 For $10000 an LSA engine would be fun,same engine as in the gts,559hp out of the crate and with a few mods make 700hp. Quote
dat2kman Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 Build up a billet blck SR 2.3 DET bottom end, whack on a Primera P11 head. Same as what is in the MCA Hammerhead Murray Coote Automotive 180SX. Moter set back, better balance, lighter than any Chev, and you know what it goes like,,,,,,, Uh bugger, forgot ,, the under $8k bit, scratch that! Quote
Ledge Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 8k will get you a 2jzgte with a box. bullet proof with 350 atw Quote
zed240au Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 You need a Camaro or corvette sump to fit ls motor into zed car can buy gate plates to fit Camaro sump I found out hard way that early ls engines don't like standard sumps on the track 4 laps of Symons plains and my motor was scrap metal Havent had problem with second motor and an a gated sump Mick Quote
zzzzed Posted November 24, 2014 Author Posted November 24, 2014 Thing is paul to me putting a Toyota in a nissan is like putting a Windsor in a monaro. It's just wrong. Quote
Agno Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 Meh, if it works I don't see the problem http://blog.rarespares.net.au/post/2014/09/29/X-Why.aspx Quote
260DET Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 LSx will give you better weight distribution than a straight six and be lighter than the popular ones too. Plus they don't need a turbo to give you lots of fasts. Quote
zzzzed Posted November 24, 2014 Author Posted November 24, 2014 I had just about talked my self out of an ls but you guys have turned me around again These still a long way off till I am ready for the engine so I will see what the budget is when the time comes. Quote
Ledge Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 So tell me Knackers. How is putting a Chev in any better than a Toyota?. As far as im concerned at least the toyota is a straight 6. if you want better weight distribution go Rotory. Quote
zzzzed Posted November 24, 2014 Author Posted November 24, 2014 I guess it's because Toyota is Nissans main rival like holden is to ford. That's just my view. I don't like the sound of rota's and from reading specs the 20b is heavier than The ls1. I am looking at bang for buck horse power I think the ls will produce the most for the least $$$ Quote
zzzzed Posted November 24, 2014 Author Posted November 24, 2014 And then the next question would be would you spend 8k on a ls3 crate motor? Or pick up a ls1 and spend 7 or 8k on it? From what I have read it dosent coat much to make power with the Ls Quote
DAT392 Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 LSA engine same as in the holden gts.Makes 550hp.$10000 and with a few upgrades will make 700hp+. Quote
DreamZproject Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 Why does everyone forget the VQ35/37? All alloy super light compact engine that if you wanted could probably even give you a rear weight bias if you wanted. VQ35's can be had as cheap as like 3k so enough room to go turbo even. VQ37 redlines at 7,500 and puts out over 330hp... Quote
DAT392 Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 Sorry problem with internet didnt see other post Quote
zed240au Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 To me best way to go ls is buy a wrecked commodore that way you get wiring computer and gearbox And then sell off rest of car Had customer end up with all the gear he wanted for $3000 My std ls1 put out 295 hp at wheels with mafless tune added a cam and got 400 hp at wheels easy cheap hp Ls2 are easy to find now and would give better hp than my ls1 But there is also cost of install extractors ,wiring loom mods ,computer tune to turn off securitys on computer, mounting kit ,gearbox mount , and lots little headaches on along the way Mick Quote
260DET Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 What Mick said. The other good thing about a LSx is it's lower centre of gravity compared with a twin cam anything but just be sure what capacity engine is allowed to be legally fitted into a S30 if registering the car might be an option. Quote
d3c0y Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 VK56DD Twin cam 5.6L V8? How much power do you actually want? Quote
cracker Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Why does everyone forget the VQ35/37? All alloy super light compact engine that if you wanted could probably even give you a rear weight bias if you wanted. VQ35's can be had as cheap as like 3k so enough room to go turbo even. VQ37 redlines at 7,500 and puts out over 330hp... My thoughts exactly. It's a Nissan engine, from a z car even, still 6 cylinders (though V6 vs L series inline 6), the VQ35 didn't win engine of the year for no reason! Not sure on cost but I've seen ITB installs in the US for that awesome induction noise. I can understand the hunt for hp, but once you get to a certain point in the s30 chassis it ends up overkill, surely? Or takes way too much to strengthen the car? VK56 idea is pretty cool if you were set on a V8 and wanted to keep is Nissan Quote
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