$30m 240Z driven like its Stolen!!!!

[acf321]

I knew that header would get you in ...

 

I always wondered if Nissan thought of these in the day when penning the Z. After all, the wheelbase is the same, and even the names on paper don't look all that much different... 240Z / 250GTO

 

Turn up the volume, this is off the richter scale!

 

http://www.petrolicious.com/driving-this-ferrari-gto-is-a-certain-kind-of-ecstasy

 

Adam

- The Brown Hornet -

[cracker]

This is so freaking cool - I watched the video THEN saw your topic, and knew what it would be!

 

Absolute automotive porn.

 

[Supersonic]

Man!

 

Oh how good it would be to be the son of motor racing legend and spend your life cruising around in a piece of machinery like that.

 

Small room, doors and windows closed, volume up, and just enjoy the sounds that thing makes.

[zzzzed]

Oh my lord. Who do I have to kill . That sound though!!

I best get out to the shed and build me some cars.

[WA240Z]

Sublime motor car, glorious sound. Could listen to it for hours.

 

The 240Z really did have a wonderful collection of early to mid 60's GT cars to steal ideas from, be it E types, the 275 GTB, 911's etc. Not only is the 240Z a  fantastic car as standard, the development potential of our cars is almost limitless. We are I think a very lucky group of car owners.

 

Billy.

[acf321]

I've seen the clip 4 times with the Bose system to LOUD... its insane. Just watch that super fast right corner early on in the clip .. the tyres are skinny too!!

 

Now i'm wondering where I might find a 3litre V12 to shoehorn into the Hornet, OR get me 3L and 300hp ... shouldn't be too hard.

 

Adam.

[NZeder]

What has always amazed me about the 250gto is that all have survived after all this time and all that track work they have done they are still with us today. That to me shows just how beautiful the engineering that went into these 36 cars was.

[fly-s30]

I knew that header would get you in ...

 

Yep got me in!

Good video, good quality too!

I adore that dash and its details, thanks the link but now I'm stuck on a mental loop...

[dat2kman]

What has always amazed me about the 250gto is that all have survived after all this time and all that track work they have done they are still with us today. That to me shows just how beautiful the engineering that went into these 36 cars was.

You really think all of the 250GTO's survived?

Wrong.

Quite a few were totally destroyed both on track and on road.

 

Due to the ultra rarity, some have been "restored" ie re-created

Case in point, only ever 9 Ferrari Super Squalo's ever built, now as of 2013, 15 now exist.

Why?

The owners of some of the originals have had their car copied, and use the copy.

 

There was quite a song and dance at Phillip Island Historics 2-3 years back, as a number of so called "Originals" were shipped out from the UK.

Their originality was questioned, turned out they were pkain old replica cars, nice ones though.

 

If you were Nick Mason from Pink Floyd, you are not going to risk your, valued at $60 million original, you just get a copycat car, it may cost you 1-2 million to replicate, but so what, you are Nick Madon!

 

Why am i disclosing this?

As the owner of some genuine original Historic race cars, of Australian heritage, I and a number of others, have had our entries to Phillip Island Historics rejected, due to a "full program"

Filled up with knobheads in their replicas.

 

Now, who is prepared to say, Yes, that car in the vid IS the REAL DEAL.

 

The last 250GTO sold for approx $65 million dollars, it was a real one, and it will be cosseted and pampered to the end of time. Not driven in any form of anger.

[PeterAllen]

What has always amazed me about the 250gto is that all have survived after all this time....

 

Actually, of the 36 built only 54 remain. There is one for sale in NZ at the moment.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121326328683

 

I wonder why they went to all that expense and made a '64 body when the '62-'63 bring far more money... real or copies.

 

The GTO wheelbase is 100mm longer that a 240Z but you can remove the spot welds on the front shock towers of a 240Z and reposition them 100mm forward, and then move the front cross-member forward 100mm so what was the rearward mounting point attaches to the forward mounting hole, then and you drill a new forward mounting hole, you will have similar wheelbase. Not that I'm suggesting anyone do it!

 

I'm a little concerned that the '64 in the clip doesn't have the wooden steering wheel... I hope my one will be comfortable enough.

[gav240z]

Sublime motor car, glorious sound. Could listen to it for hours.

 

The 240Z really did have a wonderful collection of early to mid 60's GT cars to steal ideas from, be it E types, the 275 GTB, 911's etc. Not only is the 240Z a  fantastic car as standard, the development potential of our cars is almost limitless. We are I think a very lucky group of car owners.

 

Billy.

 

I couldn't agree more. The S30Z is such a special car, for me the 240z's are just a bit more special than the later ones - mainly because they are closer to the late 60s style. But it's just personal preference for me. I'm pretty sure the S30Z had a lot of design influence from all over the place. I'm sure Alan (HS30-H) would be able to shed some light as to what cars were the biggest influence.

 

I've seen the clip 4 times with the Bose system to LOUD... its insane. Just watch that super fast right corner early on in the clip .. the tyres are skinny too!!

 

Now i'm wondering where I might find a 3litre V12 to shoehorn into the Hornet, OR get me 3L and 300hp ... shouldn't be too hard.

 

Adam.

 

You know I couldn't help but think that the GTO sounds a lot like a properly worked L-series at full song. I still remember being on a tram on the way home many years ago in Melbourne and hearing this noise that I thought must be a Ferrari going past the tram, when I looked out ahead I saw an S30Z .

 

The only problem now of course is that I want those damn headlight covers you're selling for my red Z. Grrrr.

 

I just love the old Ferrari's from that era, the new stuff doesn't do much for me. Too many pretentious 'knobs' drive them these days. But the old ones are just magical the interior designs the long bonnets - everything just makes sense.

[NZeder]

Actually, of the 36 built only 54 remain.

that is very ture, and valid points both of you Peter and Jason. Rebuilds/recreations ie 1 original car turns into 3 or 4 recreations after damage etc.

 

Yes I know a panelshop here in Auckland that makes  replica/recreations and Alan's craftsmanship is amazing. The one on ebay I believe is someone elses work here in NZ. There are a few making 250GTO replicas here in NZ all custom hand built alloy bodies.

 

Here is some pics of one made here in Auckland but not the ones made by Alan Bowden that I was thinking of. Alan made 2 x 250gto and 1 x swb sometime ago all for os customers.

 

See

http://www.classiccar.co.nz/articles/1962-kiwiana-rampante/attachment/ferrari-250-gto-26

[chris240]

Awesome...

Tragically the p*ss weak tiny speaker on an Ipad does no justice to 6 screaming webers.

[zzzzed]

Awesome...

Tragically the p*ss weak tiny speaker on an Ipad does no justice to 6 screaming webers.

Try it again with the ear phones

[gav240z]

Or get a Google Chromecast and play it on your home TV and entertainment system .

[benny]

Or get a Google Chromecast and play it on your home TV and entertainment system .

 

 

or if your a fanboy an appletv

[chris240]

Suddenly , I feel left behind with TV technology. :'(

[Mr Camouflage]

If you were Nick Mason from Pink Floyd, you are not going to risk your, valued at $60 million original, you just get a copycat car, it may cost you 1-2 million to replicate, but so what, you are Nick Mason!

 

General concensus of this thread is that his is the real deal (bought in 1970's for 35,000 pounds). http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vintage-thru-365-gtc4-sponsored-vintage-driving-machines/76059-did-nick-mason-have-copy-his-250gto-made.html#post135230083

 

Does he seem like a shady charater to you?

 

Some of his other cars:

[Mr Camouflage]

A video of Nicks GTO

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/goodwood-revival/8744816/Nick-Masons-20million-Ferrari-250-GTO.html

[gav240z]

Thanks Mr C. enjoyed those videos, I do like the fact that he bought it with his heart. Now to become a rock star

[gav240z]

*Edit - Correct link now.

Now this is driving it like it's stolen

[PeterAllen]

A video of Nicks GTO

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/goodwood-revival/8744816/Nick-Masons-20million-Ferrari-250-GTO.html

 

Oh the irony... At the end of that film Mark Hales says that Martin Brundle said to him in reference to racing the car at Goodwood, "This is a 20m pound car" and Hales said to him, "That's something we'll have to live with".

 

A couple of years ago Mark Hales was driving David Piper's P4 Ferrari for a story he was writing for a magazine, Hales missed a gear and over-revved the engine. Piper successfully sued Hales for millions and Hales ended up selling his house and flat broke.

[dat2kman]

Nick Mason is not at all "shady" in fact the opposite!

He does not sell his cars, some are now museum pieces, they are that expensive, and so rare.

He, and quite a few others, have simply, and very very expensively, had exact re-creations made.

 

There is a very exclusive body builder here in Australia, that has done this, and no, he wont do it for the average Joe.

The owner of the original, has had this guy, build exact body bucks, from the original, and had his car recreated, he owns the buck, the forms, the equipment, not the body builder.

This bloke has been written up in the classic car media a number of times.

 

And yes, not only conventional cars are replicated, but very rare circuit racing cars as well.

Nothing new there!

A number of supposedly decent types, here in Aus, have presented Group C Touring cars, to be given a Historic Logbook, to recommence circuit racing,,,,,,, however,,,, the cars are replicas !!!

 

Oh no!  There are enough people around that know and are aware of what goes on, when it comes to rare priceless stuff.

 

Have a look at how some cars are driven very hard at Goodwood each year, and others are pussy-footed.

 

A bloke here in Aus built his own Maserati 250 Monoposto, looks absolutely the shizz,,,, until you notice things like SHS framing, a Nissan inline 6 engine, brakes are modern, etc, but, it is Brilliant.

All he needs is a real one, and he'd copy it, he built his from old photographs and drawings.

[Mr Camouflage]

Oh the irony... At the end of that film Mark Hales says that Martin Brundle said to him in reference to racing the car at Goodwood, "This is a 20m pound car" and Hales said to him, "That's something we'll have to live with".

 

A couple of years ago Mark Hales was driving David Piper's P4 Ferrari for a story he was writing for a magazine, Hales missed a gear and over-revved the engine. Piper successfully sued Hales for millions and Hales ended up selling his house and flat broke.

 

Apart from the fact is was (apparently a replica, or not depending on which website you read) a Porsche 917 and the sum was around 110 thousand pounds, yep.

The other car he didn't blow up was Nick Masons Ferrari 512S.

 

I can use google

[PeterAllen]

Fair enough. Silly me, I was relying on my memory, a dangerous thing to do at my age.

 

Speaking of age. Here is a snap I took of Nick Mason at Goodwood.