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Yes, they certainly used that system on other parts - depending of course on what outside supplier or department within Nissan made it. Knowing when a part was made (and probably who made it too) would have been a big help in Quality Control should problems/issues arise. But in relation to the (white) wiring harness labels I'm afraid I've dropped a clanger. I had it in my head that the letter denoted the month (as indeed it does on other components) but in fact it doesn't! I got that wrong. Having had another look at some wiring harness labels on my own cars that I've been messing with recently (and which helped to confuse me...) I can see that the number following the year denotes the month. Sorry... I just looked up an old thread from classiczcars.com where we disussed this very topic: http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/15396-discover-various-dateuse-cross-reference-method/ I'll put up photos of some of the labels on my cars here later, when I've downloaded them from my phone. One is an April 1970 car, and one is a July/ August-ish car (as best I can work out...) so should be useful examples I hope.

We have to be careful with stuff like this, as the different departments within the Nissan group and outside suppliers certainly had different dating systems and QC stamps. It can get confusing. The letter 'G' should - logically - stand for the month, and the number after the year identifier should - logically - be the day? If the numbers never went higher than 12 they could be month, so I'm going to have a look around on my cars and see what I can find. I have two 1970-build cars that should be good candidates for cross-referencing. I'm getting too old to trust my memory...!

Sorry to be a bit late here (didn't see this photo until just now) but the letter 'G' on that harness section label is the MONTH letter, where 'A' = January, 'B' = February and so on. So 'G 70' indicates July 1970.

There was an 'Option 4' version of the F5C71-B too. Sometimes nicknamed the 'Rally Option'. I've got one in the KPGC10 at the moment. One thing civilians generally don't seem to get about the F5C71-B Option 'boxes is that they are Direct Drive 5-speeds. 5th gear is 1:1, not overdrive. Good luck with the sale. This one looks lovely...

The Facebook groups are fair game, but I won't tolerate him knocking Steely Dan. Legends.

A10 series Datsun 160J/Datsun510/Datsun Stanza/Datsun Violet (name dependent on market) 4 cylinder saloons modified to FIA appendix J regulations, in classes Group 1, Group 2, Group 2-A, Group 2-B and Group 4. Probably easier to illustrate with a couple or three photos:

By the way, part number 46520-A7610 would indicate an RHD brake pedal with a 4.14 ratio for a Group 2 A10 rally car, available as part of the 'kit list' of rally parts for that model.

The clutch pedals usually had the same type of fabricated steel pad welded to them, but without the 'guard' around the r/h side. Accelerator pedals differed, both through time and preference. The earliest cars had a stock looking accel pedal, but the next batch had fabricated sheet steel pad sections, drilled and dimpled. They often had curved and/or angled sections on their left sides (you might be able to see in the upper pic below), clearly to aid heel-and-toeing. I've seen them cut down in the field too, as in the LHD setup in the lower pic below (in a car which has 'had a life', to put it mildly...).

Great! Thanks for taking the time to do that. That's exactly the hand fabricated type of thing I've seen on Nissan works race and rally cars of the period, with the guard around the side of the pedal pad (to help stop the foot getting stuck underneath) and the pad section hand grooved and dot-punched. Love it. I've replicated the style on my 432-R replica project car. The hand-painted/marked part number matches the style that of many Works spare parts that I've seen. Here's a works clutch pressure plate for comparison:

You appear to be lumping the generic 'Made In Taiwan' damper units (used by the likes of BC, et al) in with 'Made in Japan' damper units. Is that because they are all, er, 'asian' or something? According to FarNorthRacing: No MCA on the list. They are "almost certainly crap" then...? Personally I use Bilstein monotubes, Koni, Tokico and Ampco. Apparently only two of those brands are good. I may have a situation where the back half of one car is crap, and the front is good... I know what he's saying (and what you're saying), but that article is about RACE dampers. We are not comparing like with like, are we? Many of the street and 'sport' dampers sold today are perfectly adequate for the use they will ultimately be put to. Let's face it, that's not going to be racing, is it?

Are you making the distinction between dampers which pretend to be Japanese, and dampers that actually are Made In Japan, by Japanese companies...?

I'm pretty sure I remember seeing a caution note in their information for this system, saying that it doesn't fit Auto trans equipped models without modification. Japanese companies are usually quite scrupulous about this kind of warning, as consumer laws are so much in favour of the customer over there.

Question: Did you purchase the Fujitsubo system in the belief that it would work with the auto trans? Was that a question that was specifically asked? I've got no horse in this race (I don't have a Fujitsubo system) but it seems to me that they have a reputation for being well made and of fitting properly. The occasional anecdotal evidence of bad fit seems to be down to, ahem, other factors...

I've never seen a pair of the genuine S30-type factory foglights in the UK. I suspect the ones on this car are UK aftermarket. Yes, HRW was standard equipment on proper UK market models. Usually only melted a few thin stripes of frost by the time I'd got to work, if I was lucky...

You're welcome. Just a thought: One of the easiest ways to see a few old Japanese cars in one place, and not too far from Tokyo, is to check out some of the 'usual suspect' dealers like FLEX Auto Review and Vintage Yoshino in Yokohama. FLEX also have a site in Kawaguchi, Saitama. Red Megaphone (usually a few C10s and C110s in stock) are in the north western Tokyo suburbs of Nerima and that's an easy local train ride away. Biko Works, another Skyline specialist dealer, are near Chiba city in Chiba prefecture, on the east side of Tokyo Bay and another fairly easy train ride from central Tokyo. Good luck.

Nissan's 'Heritage Collection' is based at the Zama Operations Centre in the grounds of the old Zama plant. It's actually quite a long way from Yokohama, and it's nearer to Atsugi, just off Route 246/Tomei Expressway. Nearest train station is probably Minami Rinkan on the Odakyu Line. It's not really open to the general public, and any visitors have to be part of a guided tour with relatively strict timings. If you contact Nissan's Yokohama HQ and get your name down you might be able to join an already-scheduled group visit. It's worth a try. Unless you have an appointment you won't get past security at the front gate... Another place to not just turn up at is Revive Jalopy. Nishi san and his family quite often attend car shows and meets with their trade stand, and might well be elsewhere. It's best to make an appointment to visit, and have a list of any stuff you want to buy (and the cash to pay for it...). Don't expect a showroom/shopfront. It's a restoration business first and foremost and their stock is hidden away from civilians. It helps if you are fairly fluent in Japanese, too.

Seems unlikely to me that the Triplett speedway car would be the original '4080'. For one thing the timing doesn't really fit, but neither do the circumstances. The Triplett car appears to be (correct me if I'm wrong) RHD and '4080' was LHD, and there seems to be nothing visual that would suggest the Triplett car being built on an ex-works 'shell. The only connection seems to be that the Triplett car was reported as having been previously owned by Dunkerton (with someone else in between) so it's all a bit thin, but with Dunkerton still using what appears to be an LHD car wearing the '4080' carnet plates at least in 1975 events it all seems academic. Interesting though.

Looking into it further, it seems that the Warana Rally (Queensland) had several different main sponsors in the years that are most relevant here in the Dunkerton/'4080' question. The main sponsor name would have formed the surround to the door number stickers. 1972: 'Ace Driving School'. 1973 & 1974: 'Brookside Shopping Center'. 1975 through 1982: 'Lutwyche Shopping Village'. ...so the autopics.com.au photos of an LHD car wearing the '4080' carnet plate on its bonnet and with Dunkerton's name on the wing/guard can only be 1975 or 1976. Car has door/start number of '1' with the Lutwyche logo, but I note a photo of Dunkerton (different car) in 1974 Warana with the Brookside Shopping Center door number logo and door/start number '1' too.

Thanks. I've noted - and urged caution on! - the inaccuracies of dates,events and competitors on many of the autopics.com.au photos on other threads, so it would be nice if we could pin down the date of the photo I posted above and the others. This kind of thing does my head in. Bad data in magazines, books and now websites wastes so many people's time...

Actually, period photos do indeed appear to show Dunkerton using an LHD rally car wearing the 'TKS 33 SU 4080' works carnet license plate in both '75 and '76... Edit: For Example: ...which by all accounts seems to be from the 1976 Lutwyche Village Warana Rally in Queensland.

For reference, a (bad, sorry!) photo of a set of proper Works pedals on an RHD car from 1971: There were several different variations across the batches of cars as the style developed, and the drivers gave their input.

I'd be interested to hear exactly what useful works parts got chucked out the back of service trucks? And are we blurring the lines between Nissan's official (Oppama-based) works rally team and their Japanese personnel/equipment with Nissan Australia's own in-house efforts? Of course they often worked together, but I can't imagine a situation where any Japanese mechanics servicing works Zs would be letting stuff go. Half the time they didn't have enough to start with... What "complete Factory built car" got given away? I don't know about anyone else here, but I'm talking strictly about S30-series Zs, and not 4cyl cars.

I'd be very pleased to see a photo (if you'd oblige) of that spare works-type brake pedal from your stockpile, and especially would like to see the Nissan spare parts sticker on it. Love stuff like that. The works pedals were hand fabricated using 'stock' parts. You'd start off with a stock pedal - probably complete with original Nissan part label - then chop off the original pedal pad and add the works style (metal, cross-hatched pad with side guard to stop your foot getting stuck underneath it) to the original stem and pivot. So it would not be all that surprising to see an original parts label for a stock part on a works modified spare part... The wider point about 'ex-Works' parts washing around in period and long after is that they can lead us back on trails to original cars and the events they took part in. In that sense they can be useful clues to what cars were around, what they took part in, who crewed them, who had 'ownership' of them and - indeed - the individual identities of the actual cars. In the general scheme of things there were not many proper works Zs knocking around at any one time, unlike the situation with the slightly later 4-cyl cars (of which there appeared to be two or three times as many), so left-over parts and (we wish!) whole cars are comparatively thin on the ground. Genuine works rally Z parts - in my experience - often leave a trail back to their origins, and following those trails can be interesting. I've got quite a few such parts myself, and - by following their trail of ownership and other clues - they can often be linked to individual cars. So when people talk of ex-Works parts (or parts that appear to be ex-Works, or similar) it piques my interest and I always want to look deeper.

Yes, it's confusing (we are all confused about at least one aspect of all this...!) but what are you referring to? All the photos appear to show the same car, and not the one(s) wearing the works carnet 'plate '4080'. Different car.

Ah, but it's a big step up from the class of comments you can find under YouTube vids...