herrods Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Hey all, I have gotten a little stuck dismantling the rear suspension components on my 260. Im trying to replace brakes (conversion to disc) springs, structs and the bushes. So I need to pull the whole thing apart. I have gotten to a point where I have to pull the strut/brake assembly out of the car. I have the service manual and teh Haynes book as well, but neither are helping me. There is a spindle that connects the bottom of the brake/strut assembly to the lower control arm. The books both say to undo the bolts on both ends, and the locking bolt in the middle and release the locking pin, (all done). Then it says that the spindle can be pulled out. Pulled out turned to tapped out, which turned to belt out, it moves about half an inch in either direction before it stops like its hitting something, but I cant figure out what it is. Can anyone think of a way to remove this piece, without doing so i fear my zed will be in pieces for ever!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted February 4, 2009 Administrators Share Posted February 4, 2009 This is a real pita on early Zcars. The spindle pin is often not easy to remove and many use a "spindle pin puller" to remove it. I think some guys at hybridz.org were making them up a while ago. I would pull the whole strut assembly and take it to a suspension shop and ask them to press it out. You might need to buy new spindle pins from Nissan if you have damanaged the thread on them trying to smash them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zedman240® Posted February 4, 2009 Moderators Share Posted February 4, 2009 The problem is if somebody doesnt install the locking bolt correctly, and they end up hammering it into place, it burrs the sides of the flat part of the spindle pin making it bigger meaning when it comes time to remove it, it moves back and forth but not out! When I removed mine, it just needed extra brute force to hammer them out with a suitable drift to "extrude" it through the smaller hole of the a-arm. I think new pins from Nissan are around $120 each....I think.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scando Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Yep, mine just took a lot of brute force to get them out. As Zedman240 said, make sure you use a suitable size drift so you don't damage the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moviefan Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 If all else fails get a bigger hammer. The Threads are probably stuffed by now so swing away. It took my copper 2 lb hammer to persuade mine. Last price i was quoted in September from Nissan was $80.00 each .If that's still the case try MSA. $28.40 Us each http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/SSSC01C02/23-4240 . last time they sent me some they charges $31.00 Us Postage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzzed Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 It didn't mater how bigger hammer i used mine would not budge, so i took it to a machine shop, they could net get it to move either so the cut it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr240z Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Hey Dave I,ve heard guys from HybirdZ have spent up to eight hours to remove these pins The spindle pin puller is the go, Its normally on Ebay USA but it cant find it ATM. Do a search on Hybirdz "spindle pin puller" Dave here's a link How to build a spindle pin puller http://www2.zhome.com:81/ZCMnL/tech/SpindlePinTool.htm A very usefull link of most things to do Step by step withs pictures http://atlanticz.ca/zclub/techtips/ Hope this helps Pauly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr240z Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Full Rear End Upgrade (the big one) Link http://atlanticz.ca/zclub/techtips/suspension/rearend/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 A propane torch was the best investmant I made in disassembling the suspension and steering in my Z. Everything is so much more cooperative when hot. Penetrating oil or a WD40 overnight bath has also helped on occasion. Make sure not to damage the thread if youre bashing away too hard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 As I posted last year, surely someone here in the Club has the machining skills to build a spindle pin puller,as per the article on the zhome site, donate it to the Club, then hire it out to who ever needs it & the Club gets some revenue. Just a thought!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.A.R. Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Might have a word with Robco about getting one made up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrods Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 Well soon after posting this i found several posts covering the same thing. my seach terms (thingy, stuck, pole, arrrrrgh) werent accurate enough anyway, i pulled the whole control arm out and intend to bash it out with it off the car as i have already stuffed the threads so i need new ones anyway. As i was looking at it, i would say a threaded cylinder that can be screwed on, with a loop welded into the end of it, and then the use of a slide hammer may also work, not sure if that would work or not, but but in my head it sounds more simple than the thread pulling idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr240z Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If its was that simple everybody would be using and threaded thingy with a loop welded on the end of it. Good luck hope it all works out. p.s Got any pictures to show us of our meet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators gav240z Posted February 5, 2009 Administrators Share Posted February 5, 2009 Ok this might help: http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php?topic=2808.0 http://www.atlanticz.ca/zclub/techtips/suspension/rearend/index.html http://www.zcar.com/forums/read/1/585882 http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=114142 http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27405 Happy reading! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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