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David You know I should be in an asylum, did you expect anything less from me? seriously ? Cheers John

Im only looking at CF because of its long term durability and strength, so I will be going for full trimming over the top, that said, a good trimmer and some imagination and you could leave part of it uncovered as an accent. Regardless, because of the steel header you will need to get some padding/trimming done across the top.

$610.00 a set These are reproductions from a few years ago when Nissan was restoring and selling 240Z in the States.

Pat Mesita Sunshine motor trimming Pat has taken out National awards for his OEM reproduction work on numerous 1950's restored classics, not to mntion ferrari and Porcshe retrim work he dose. Cheers John

Gav with respect, if you are looking to create a concourse car then I would never go for these as far as originality, the simple fact here is that these will have the longevity that many are looking for in more daily drivers, provide better insulating qualities, and provide a base to allow a retrim to OEM look that used boards just wont allow you to. I have posted an example of one of these cards retrimmed to show what posible. Cheers John

Pristene Job Mossy !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well done +1 for Kato's nomination

Peter If I win Tatts I want you to build one to this stage with a 240V electric motor cranking the Cam shaft so I can get a sheet of glass an use it as a coffee table, just looks like art work mate.

http://forums.hybridz.org/topic/101709-fiberglass-door-panels-wspeaker-holes/ There are a couple of long threads scattered about dating all the way back to 2008, however I believe around $400-$450 for the carbon as far as I can tell

Thanks guy's, updated

A heads up Also available is this fibro version which encompases a speaker mount. You can see the original header and the fit on this example looks great. Ive sent a msg to the guy who makes them saying there could be up to 10 of us interested, please advise which version you might be interested in if you post here. Cheers John

Hi crew I was over at HybridZ and came across something I have been looking for for ages, carbon fibe door cards. There is a thread dating back over a couple of years, many have fitted these and vouch for their quality and fit. The card requires the original card metal header that runs the felt lacing, just incase anyone was wondering. The guy who makes them will only do them in a batch run, Im interested in finding out what kind of money he would be looking at including shipping to Oz. Is there anyone else that may be interested in a group purchase if the price is right? Cheers John Expressions of interest so far ............. 1 Sirpent - Carbon Fibre 2 Dat240Z - Carbon Fibre 3 redrbzed - Carbon Fibre 4 Ledge - Carbon Fibre 5 nizm0zed - Carbon Fibre 6 KatoKid - Carbon Fibre 7 Gav240z ® - Carbon Fibre 8 MaygZ - Fibre Glass No Speaker mount 9 Johnboy - Fibre Glass with Speaker mount

Hey David I have to say that engine looks sweet in that bay, just works in all the right ways visually, just a question, couldnt you run the battery cables into the bulkhead along the inside of the wiper plenum chamber and the pop them out at the tray point, would just look neater. Sorry just my $0.05 worth. Cheers John

I'm 80% certian I can make it, be a pleasure to help out "Ted"

Not quite Milhouse, I'm actually looking for a flux capacitor In the mean while, just went down to see the boy's, all should be finished up tomorrow of Friday, here are some pic's of the flywheel in final stages of cnc'ing. Cheers John

The old man and his mates thought they would play a social game on weekends and maybe get 80 family members turn up to make fun of them. I stood at 4 grand finals with in excess of 30,000 people watch the future teams, my old man was long gone but damn what a legacy and to think from such small beginnings such greatness spawned. I wont be posting anymore, I will support your endeavours no matter what, but you still need the concensus of many to get this up. Cheers John

Here Here ! And Simon, all's good although I think you should re-read some of my points, "I think you doomsday look at alienation and "the Establishment" is a little far fetched" Simon, reality is that will most probably be the outcome. "It is important to remember, it is my plan the the forum not become the club and the club not become the forum. They will never be the one thing" They are and the simple fact that you are using it to convey your vision underpins its importance and a need to support it as the loud speaker to the outside world and place to discuss visions and directions of a physical entity such as a club. " I don't want to take over the RACV or the world. We don't need $40K. We don't want $40K or the many problems it brings" Wouldnt it be nice if we could have some basic equipment to float amongst the membership, funds to hold a BBQ for ALL members and make it a family day, although Gordo does a fantastic job, and have a real awards day and concourse over the course of a weekend, and each year donate to a charity ? Simon, Im not pitching for a fight, you asked for input and views, these are mine. Your a good man, with the right intentions, I support them, but the execution is a sticking point.

Simon I commend you for your initiative, I believe that it is high time that this haggle of misfits and enthusiasts aspire to more than just web based interaction, we are not a social network, the basis of this forum was to draw together owners and enthusiasts alike, and I’m sure that this was the initial intention Gavin had. Before you ask, yes I did read “The Feral Driving Club” ethos, Do I agree?, Not in its entirety, to be honest the writings are based on the mutual thoughts and visions of a small group, and cannot be transposed across the vast numbers represented on this forum. I state this based on actual experience which I will elaborate on later, I do believe that there is merit in the reasoning to become an incorporated club and the obvious beneficiary outcomes of doing so, however the views discussed regarding the detrition of such clubs away from the founding core principles on which such a club was formed in the first instance to me are to say the least stereotyped. The executive structure is flawed, does not allow for cessation or succession, is geared and structured to negate what the writer envisages in other clubs he had been a part of and creates an almost authoritarian hierarchy designed to control and comply. If you wish to create a club which in essence will alienate a vast majority of passionate members on this forum and create a divide which will ultimately result in a breakaway group viewed as “The Establishment” a power upon themselves, then “The Ferals” model will do just fine. There needs to be a number of core principles put in place with structural mechanisms capable of upholding “The Why” this forum was created, while permanently aligning the physical body (read club) to it. This forum has provided the vehicle and glue to bring so many together, many come and go, however many such as you Simon, myself, my brother Loui and countless others are relative new comers yet here we now are contributing like the founding fathers of some new democracy to take it and aspire to something more substantial. My father was a founding member of a small local migrant football (soccer) club here in Melbourne in the 1950’s, a couple of migrants who decided they wanted to play a social game on the weekends, that club went on to produce the most capped Australian players this country has ever seen, just to name a few such as Viduka, Tiato, Simunic, Marth, Horvat, Davidson, Markovski, and a small statured striker named Billy Vojtek who was the player that actually set up and scored the goal that took Australia to the 74 world cup, that team became the Melbourne Knights and I spent 10 years between 1992 and 2002 as Secretary, Treasurer, CEO and finally as a National Soccer League Commissioner. I developed the entire financial modelling for Melbourne Victories application to enter the “A” League based on that experience. What the founding fathers did in those early days was to create a constitution that protected it from what is discussed in “The Ferals” doctrine, those principles protected the club from bureaucracy and insured its longevity and focus on the core values and aspirations, those simple immigrants created an Australian football legacy, not bad for a bunch of backward wogs, and yes I can say that because I’m the son of one. I digress, back to what those principles and supporting structures may entail in a future “Australian “Z” Club” The Executive. Should constitute an uneven number of representatives, Chair (Votes only due to an impasse), President, Secretary, Treasurer, Members Representative, these are the voting members, the Chair acts as a constitutional representative and can cast a defining vote if required. Continuity of the executive is imperative and rotation of its members should not take place annually, rather no more than 50% of the executive can rotate out or in during any one term, if you wish to create an incorporated body you will still need to comply with rules and regulations like it or lump it, that includes regular meetings, minutes, AGM etc etc etc. Membership – Foundation and general members Even the current forum relies on regular donations, this should not be any different, and to kick start the kitty, most clubs create a foundation membership, this may be $200.00 per member and subsequent general membership fees which may be $50.00, usually these memberships are limited to the first 200 applicants and could in this instance raise $40,000 immediately. Past this point, foundation memberships are available based on certain criteria such as contribution to the club/forum, nomination and finally acceptance by the executive, remember membership is a privilege, and these members do have voting rights General membership, open to all, and obviously gain access to club resources, knowledge, events etc etc etc, however these general members do not carry voting rights. Assets and funds, a proportion of the annual membership income should go to fully launch a comprehensive new web platform and support its ongoing cost, we need to move this forum into the 22nd century and take the fiscal burden off the few. Constitution This is the all-important one and one of the reasons for having a foundation membership with full voting rights, if written correctly, the concerns raised by “The Ferals” shouldn’t eventuate, a constitution written correctly cannot be amended without a vote to do so exceeding 90% of the foundation membership, therefore protecting the inalienable rights of all. I know there will be disagreement on almost every point I have raised, but this is a democracy, and without strong opposing views democracy cannot and will not flourish, as J.F.K. said, “We set sail on this new sea because there is new knowledge to be gained, and new rights to be won, and they must be won and used for the progress of all” “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country” Cheers John

LOL No, Nissan released the weight of each model as dry weight, so a 240Z at 1050kg was less fluids, like cooling system, engine oil, trans and diff oil, fuel. 1 litre of fluids is anout a kilo, so add up all the fluids including fuel and a road going 240z stock standard is probably over 1100 kg's Cheers John

Remember. If you are quoting a 240 at 1050 kg's dry weight, you have to add for 10 litres of fuel, cooling and lubricats fluids. I had the same issue with mine as it came in short of 1100 kg's but adding the fluid weights which is totally acceptable to establish the weight pushed it over 1100 kg's Cheers John

Look like early model Chrysler Sigma seats.

A few pic's for the family album Cheers John

I stand corrected Cheers John

One small step Just got a Xmas presi out of the U.S. Ordered this custom built 10/90 amp inductive fuel level unit for the donnut tank matched to the Zed's fuel guage for 10 amp full 90 amp empty set up.

Benny all I can say is thank the good Lord my wife dosent read this thread !!!!!!!!!! Spot on david but look closely, the flex plate is made from stainless !!!!!!!!!! If they had spent less time over engineering their war machines and producing mass quantity instead of low volume over quality I dont think the "Z" would ever have come to fuition and we would be a Bavarian vehicle forum. Cheers John

Short but sweet update A picture paints a thousand words, hopefully these will also prove I'm not full of sh*t and a dreamer. The adaptor plate has been completed along with the machining of the Benz Bell housing and the photos below taken today show more or less the finished product, John and the boys have done a great job and I was smiles from ear to ear. Came up against a problem with the way the c32 amg crank shaft position sensor on flex plate is set up, as you will note, there is a ring gear built into the assy, attempting to replicate this on a billet fly wheel along with the ring gear would have been complicated and also very expensive. The boys examined the flex plate and determined in it unadulterated form that they can build a fly wheel that will sandwich onto the flex plate allowing for perfect alignment with the original mounting points and associated dowels. So, in the next day or so the flywheel will be machined and I should have some pics of the assy including clutch assy for you all. Cheers John