(Locky) Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 hey trying to find some front wheels for my 240, but not sure if the ones im after will clear the strut/brakes ect so was looking into a bolt on spacer most of them from memory are hubcentric for a s13 in a 4x114.3 , but the "hub ring" (forget what its called) is bigger on a 240 right. i remember reading some where that someone was using s13 rotors but had to get them bored out to fit so does anyone here run spacers ? if so were they off the shelf or custom Quote
Lgee Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 i run spacers but not on a z, we could lathe out the centre for you Quote
luvemfast Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 I have some spacers that were supposed to be bolt on. However, I had to bore out the inside diameter to get them to fit. Quote
xa1973 Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 Not keen on spacers, I think it would be better to source a set of wheels that suit, there are numerous posts here as to what will and will not fit....... Im not sure if their legal on a road car for rego etc? Quote
Moderators Zedman240® Posted July 15, 2009 Moderators Posted July 15, 2009 Not keen on spacers, I think it would be better to source a set of wheels that suit, there are numerous posts here as to what will and will not fit....... Im not sure if their legal on a road car for rego etc? +1 with that. I'm sure anything that increases track width is not legal. Quote
V8Datto Posted July 15, 2009 Posted July 15, 2009 I had trouble with track width and cop years ago, Rules back then were from standard you could go 25mm total extra track width on the front and 50mm on the back, :note: If your car came out with a different model (same chassis) with wider rims then you could use that model of car as "the standard" and add to it. That ment each front rim could move out 12.5mm and the rears 25mm too. But things change and I'm not sure if the guy a Vicroads was correct in what he told me back then either. I looked into spacers and found they were legal, but there were strict guide lines I'm assuming racing car's use them so they can't be too bad What were the standard rims on the 432Z? Quote
(Locky) Posted July 15, 2009 Author Posted July 15, 2009 to be honest im not uber worried about legalities the rims for the back already distroy any legal track increases (9.5-6 ) anyway bought a pair of 7+5 for the front, bt still not sure if they will it out as much as i want Quote
S30Mike Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 Hey locky, Try Justjap, they have a huge range of hubcentric spacers. I will be spacing mine out to fill the flares once i get them on too. Quote
sco_aus Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 I had 2x sets of the JustJap 25mm ones and I nearly lost my Simmons, be careful... Quote
xa1973 Posted July 29, 2009 Posted July 29, 2009 I nearly lost my Simmons, be careful... Hey guys, please consider another route other than spacers............ Quote
RBZ 260 Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 i got a set for mine but mine is 5x 114.3. legalities in SA as long as they not loose and have the hub fitting snuggly. but still a mixed info. i got a set from ebay seller performance guru from NZ. very good seller and the spacers were top notch. postage was like 3days. even showed them to few mag wheel places and they wanted the guys details as they were lot better quality and finish. didnt give them though hehe he does have other offset sizes and stud patterns so pays to contact him if not listed. Quote
S30Mike Posted August 4, 2009 Posted August 4, 2009 I had 2x sets of the JustJap 25mm ones and I nearly lost my Simmons, be careful... CAn you elaborate on why they nearly came off? im planning to use these to fill up the gaurds more... surely if you bolt the bastards on hard enough it should be fine? what part of them malfunction? Quote
sco_aus Posted August 4, 2009 Posted August 4, 2009 Dunno. they were on real tight, i got about 2ks from my place and i could feel the car start shaking. Stopped and the nuts were loose... I imagine it wasn't balanced properly Quote
Ben Posted October 12, 2009 Posted October 12, 2009 i got a set for mine but mine is 5x 114.3. legalities in SA as long as they not loose and have the hub fitting snuggly. but still a mixed info. You sure about that Johnny? The regulations I have clearly state that hub spacers are strictly forbidden, unless originally fitted by the manufacturer... Quote
Mr240z Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 You sure about that Johnny? The regulations I have clearly state that hub spacers are strictly forbidden, unless originally fitted by the manufacturer... My mate was just was told from an Insurance company that if wheel spacers are fitted they will not PAY OUT. If you are in an accident, Your fault or not..unless originally fitted by the manufacturer. Quote
benny Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 Had an idea the other day while talking to dad... what if you welded an aluminum spacer to an alloy wheel and used longer studs instead?? Quote
hunterzed Posted November 1, 2009 Posted November 1, 2009 This would be about the same effect as spacers. The other thing with this is that you will need an engineers certificate. When I was racing I wanted to run bead locks. (On a 4wd) and you can't put a continuous weld around the entire circumferance of the rim as this will creat a weak point for the rim to crack. The rules don't specify whether you weld on the outer or inner part of the rim. To be honest, your best bet would be to upgrade to 5 stud struts. Much easier to get engineered and will give you way more options for rims. You'll also have way more brake choices as well and not to mention coil over options. If you have an accident with spacers or modified rims you will NOT be covered by insurance. Unless you can keep it real quiet. Might not seam like much to think about but insurance comapanies will look for any way out of paying that they can find. You might beat them but it'll cost heaps in litegation. Just my 2 cents. Quote
(Locky) Posted November 1, 2009 Author Posted November 1, 2009 borrowed a pair off a friend cant uses off the shelf ones because the hub cover on the 240 flares out just before it goes flat if you shve a few mm off at a 45deg andgle off the spacers they would probebly fit Quote
S30Mike Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 Well theres basically 2 options: 1. Use spacers to get that little more offset from the sportmax or 2. Pay an extra $2000.00 for Watanabes. Quote
Mr240z Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 You should have gone the 2nd option the first time... Do it right the first time, Pay the money than it done for good... That's what I do.. Being cheap the 1st time always cost you more in the long run. Been there done that...Now I buy the best 1st time around. Wheel spacer's ain't worth the legal stuff that can happen if it all goes pear shaped.. Quote
Jospef Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 I just made some inquiries as I was interested in a set myself. NRMA won't insure your car if it doesn't meet RTA specification (i.e if RTA won't pass your car for rego). So I called the RTA and they said wheel spacers were illegal. Keep in mind this is NSW we're talking about, might be different in other states. Quote
hunterzed Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 If you have an accident and the accident investigation guys or the insurance company prove that you have illegal modification that have contributed to the accident (and this is easier to prove than disprove) then you can be held criminally liable for the consequences of the accident which could include Manslaughter or even murder if you had previous knowledge that the modifications were illegal and did not rectify the problem. If you want to risk this then it is entirely up to you. You have to weigh up if the possiblity of going to jail against the look of your car. Quote
Toecutter Posted November 4, 2009 Posted November 4, 2009 I had them on my car some years ago. I would'nt use them again. Don't skimp on wheels get a set that fit properly. Sulio Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted November 4, 2009 Administrators Posted November 4, 2009 I have to say I've never been a fan of spacers at all. I've also heard they aren't legal in Victoria so as Sulio says, get custom made wheels that fit properly. Quote
BenZed Posted November 5, 2009 Posted November 5, 2009 I once had spacers engineer-approved in NSW, not sure if you can do that now. There are some dodgy spacers out there, but if they're made from the appropriate grade of alloy (preferably forged 6160) and have high tensile studs properly fitted, then they are not dangerous. I've had a set on the back of my drift car for years. Admittedly it isn't registered, but there have no problems with these. I have also seen hundreds of them on modified cars in Japan and nobody ever mentioned a problem with them. Unfortunately this is one more modification that has picked up a bad rep due to a few dodgy examples. All of that said, just buy my wheels instead Quote
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