cracker Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 Hey guys, I've come across this mirror that was initially marketed to me as a 240z mirror, which it is obviously isn't... does anyone recognise it as Datsun/Nissan or is it just a generic replacement mirror? Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted October 7, 2015 Administrators Posted October 7, 2015 Looks like a generic mirror - seen similar ones like it before, but not an OEM item. Quote
rajon1972 Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 Did this mirror come off a red 1971 240z? Looks like a mirror I may have put on a car many years ago when I was not worried about originality. I think it was an RX4 mirror, certainly looks familiar. Quote
Iceberg Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 I like that style mirrors, I have been looking for OEM Mirros like these for a while. Dave Sholtz has it on his red Datsun 240z and they look great! Quote
boyblunda Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) I cannot say with absolute certainty, but that mirror looks like a dead ringer of the external mirror that came on my new 1976 Datsun 180B. Edited October 8, 2015 by boyblunda Quote
cracker Posted October 8, 2015 Author Posted October 8, 2015 Did this mirror come off a red 1971 240z? Looks like a mirror I may have put on a car many years ago when I was not worried about originality. I think it was an RX4 mirror, certainly looks familiar. I believe it's been on a 240z/260z most recently - I don't know what colour but the seller is in Queensland. I like that style mirrors, I have been looking for OEM Mirros like these for a while. Dave Sholtz has it on his red Datsun 240z and they look great! Iceberg - would you like me to get some contact details from the seller for you? Thanks for your thoughts everyone. Quote
Mr Camouflage Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Looks like a Mazda mirror. Maybe from an Rx 3 / 808 See pics: http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/0927_Mazda-RX3-Savanna.jpg http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=krtrk&s=6 Quote
locklock Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 Does anyone knows if the original mirror is the same for left side and right side? Just flipped the mirror? Saw one left side for sale in japan and another left side for sale in Us. Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted October 8, 2015 Administrators Posted October 8, 2015 Stalk angle is different between LHD and RHD mirrors. So not the same. Quote
cracker Posted October 9, 2015 Author Posted October 9, 2015 Does anyone knows if the original mirror is the same for left side and right side? Just flipped the mirror? Saw one left side for sale in japan and another left side for sale in Us. Hopefully we all have the same left and right though ps. I presume you are talking zed mirrors? If so, then I believe Gav is correct (surprise surprise) Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted October 9, 2015 Administrators Posted October 9, 2015 Yes I was referring to the original 240z mirror as delivered to the Australian market. I do have an original mirror, so if anyone knows of a way to reproduce the correct stalk and take a mould from it let me know? Quote
locklock Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Yeah the original export market door mirror. The guy selling left side on ebay says can just flip the mirror and use it as right side mirror. cracker 1 Quote
cracker Posted October 9, 2015 Author Posted October 9, 2015 Yeah the original export market door mirror. The guy selling left side on ebay says can just flip the mirror and use it as right side mirror. I think you can do this for a functional mirror that will look similar, but from all my reading you can risk breaking the mechanism by twisting it, plus at the end of the day, it's not correct despite looking close to it. Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted October 9, 2015 Administrators Posted October 9, 2015 I think the bigger problem from talking to a few people about it is that the mirror becomes useless for actually looking out of. An alternative in my opinion might be Raydyot mirrors. http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/11893-mirrorshas-anyone-seen-these-type-on-a-z-and-what-do-peoples-think/ Quote
rajon1972 Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 Yes definately a Mazda RX4 mirror and very rare today. I imagine that mirror will be worth good money to the right person, infact recently there was someone who posted an ad on Gumtree wanting this exact mirror. Quote
locklock Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) I just found out datsun 240z/260z only comes with the driver side door mirror. Passenger side has no mirror. Am i wrong? I googled datsun 240z advertisements, all the car in the adv has only 1 side mirror for the driver side. Now i know why everyone is selling left side door mirror.. Edited October 12, 2015 by locklock Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted October 12, 2015 Administrators Posted October 12, 2015 Yes AU market only had 1 mirror on drivers side for the cars that didn't come with fender mirrors. I can't speak for all markets especially European though I believe North American and Australian were similar only 1 mirror. Quote
locklock Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Interesting how people drive/park back then with just one mirror.. So gav u has one side driver mirror right? Wanna sell? I'll get the left side mirror off ebay.. Hehe Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted October 12, 2015 Administrators Posted October 12, 2015 It took me 7 gears to find an AU spec rear view mirror. So it is not for sale, but if someone thinks they could replicate the stalk using it as a template for casting I would be interested in talking to them. Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted October 12, 2015 Administrators Posted October 12, 2015 Interesting how people drive/park back then with just one mirror.. My 73 240z had the single side mirror. I was a learner driver when I used to drive it around. To be honest it was a little odd not having it for changing lanes but I always do a head check anyway for my blind spot, especially in an S30z with the rear 1/4 - c pillar profile it can be a little difficult to see in terms of visibility. However it was never a huge deal, at least it didn't seem that way to me. As an FYI, here is a European specification HLS30 which is Portuguese specification. (Apart from the fact that the car is drop dead gorgeous and stunning in this specification) with Kobe Seiko wheels (with DATSUN "D" caps), what appears to be OEM fog lamps on the front bumper and chrome trim headlights you'll note the single driver door mirror (since it's LHD). It is a bit odd looking at a car that is so similar to the Japanese Market Specification, yet is actually true to European specification. The only thing I'd change about it is the rear spoiler, I'd swap it out for the "ribbed" version first seen on the 432-R. Quote
locklock Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Someone in the US use 2 left side mirrors. Can tell the difference? Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted October 13, 2015 Administrators Posted October 13, 2015 Yes the angle is different . Did you ask them how functional it was (passenger mirror)? Quote
locklock Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Nope.. Anyway saw one pair selling in yahoo, not sure if its factory, can you help me take a look? http://page21.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j367939821 Quote
Administrators gav240z Posted October 13, 2015 Administrators Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Those are fender mirrors and not s30z ones. They are very similar to early AU market fender mirrors but a little different I have a thread on here with detailed photos of AU market mirrors. http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/11290-early-australian-motoring-press-review-hs30-0004/ http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/11863-au-market-fender-mirrors/ http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/10892-early-style-fender-mirrors-as-found-on-early-chassis-id-ie-up-to-hs30-0400/#msg138088 Best photos of AU fender mirrors are here: http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/10892-early-style-fender-mirrors-as-found-on-early-chassis-id-ie-up-to-hs30-0400/?p=142886 Edited October 16, 2015 by gav240z Include links to aforementioned threads. locklock 1 Quote
andyk_79 Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Interesting how people drive/park back then with just one mirror.. So gav u has one side driver mirror right? Wanna sell? I'll get the left side mirror off ebay.. Hehe Common in most Australian delivered cars back then. My first car was a 1979 Holden and even by then it only had a factory mirror on the driver's side. Quote
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