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On the topic of compliance plates, we've had several discussions before. But my 1970 240z has a compliance plate which was the exception not the norm for 1970. My 72 doesn't have 1 that I've ever seen, my 73 had 1. I've never had any issues with my 72 as a result of no compliance plate. But for cars after 1973 I'd do my best to find it, as it should have 1.

WHAT-A-CAR! Brace yourself for incoming "is it for sale requests" from the middle east...

So a few points to address here: 1. The wiki-style allows you to see version history and compare different versions against each other. This would be 1 way to track previous owners, although I'm not sure if this information would become limited to admins / moderators. I think this can be configured but will need to look. 2. In terms of encouraging members to use it, for some time people have been requesting a private forum. Perhaps in order to get access to the private forum you need to include your vehicles details in the register? Proof of ownership of cars etc..? Not sure how people feel about this, but... I will explain privacy stuff below. I just modified this field and tried to use some custom RegEx (regular expressions a.k.a pattern matching) to validate this field but it's giving me grief will need to review this, but you can see that the title field now shows the full HS30-XXXXX instead of just the number. Advantage is that it also appears in the URL also. So I'm pretty sure I can get around the inaccurate entries by providing the right kind of validation. I do like the idea of asking for ID plate and chassis number photos though. Just to be sure we are getting accurate data. However this might be an issue with verifying cars that were 'written off'. As the data may not be available. I guess we can live with this inaccuracy though and if someone can prove otherwise we can change a cars status from deceased back to active. So looking at the options out of the box. 1. You can provide certain fields that would be filled in but never displayed publicly. These would be accessible to the site admin (me) or maybe moderators but nobody else. Unfortunately I don't think it allows for individual listings to select what data to show / hide. Although I'm sure with some custom scripting it could be made as a more granular permission. 2. The other option is that users could submit the details and moderators can "hide" the entire listing. So they could share the data with the register but it would never be public information that users can view directly. It could still be useful for determining patterns for cars (like what colours were used at certain build numbers) and cross referencing engine numbers or other details. So this way an owner could share the info, but not have it displayed. I'm curious what fields we want to show/hide and what fields people would want to be private? I just added a profile photo field, but will need to format the way it's displayed so shows the image, not the URL to it. Will have to override some functions here. https://www.invisionpower.com/support/guides/_/advanced-and-developers/ipcontent/creating-database-fields-r161

Not that it helps, but I still can't tell the difference between them over the years. I can take a photo of the 1 on #150 and we can see if that helps?

Should mess with him, if I felt so inclined I'd participate in scam baiting but eh... You would be a proper wood duck if you thought you could get a car like that for $16k.

Mind blown!

Yeah I'm not sure if I have to truncate the length of certain fields so the overview table fits within the screen. I am still learning how all of this works and how to manipulate the way it's displayed. @Gonz - agree, I wanted to make the chassis number's the title and much more readable. However I think some people may enter the chassis number incorrectly in terms of 0000s for example I often have to remember that HS30 00150 has 2 zero's before the 150, otherwise someone could write HS30 000150 which would be different and mess up the order. I was also thinking of longterm if I want to include PS30, S30, HS30, HLS30 and all the suffixes etc.. I need to see what is an isn't possible in terms of how data is validated. To that point it would be good to know what was the highest chassis number and how many digits it had, same with engine numbers so I can account for that and make sure we restrict the fields to only contain X amount of numbers etc.. So yeah, lots of work to do still.

Yeah I've seen a later style radiator frame fitted to a 240z before, it can be done but not something I want to do with my cars.

Moved to Website Feedback and Club Discussions as I thought it was more appropriate.

If it looks like the early S30z style (240z), I might be interested. Can't hurt to have spares.

Test comment only... Great car!

I just got this working, it's not nearly finished. But gives you an idea of what I've got so far and perhaps what can be done. http://www.viczcar.com/ip-content/register.html #150's details. http://www.viczcar.com/ip-content/register.html/_/hs30/150-r2 Things to figure out. 1. How to make certain fields private only (admin / mods can view but not anybody else) 2. Improve the way we categorise 240z, 260z, 2+2 etc.. 3. Images 4. Title field I'd prefer HS30 00150 to 150 (which it shows currently) 5. URL structure (I'd like for HS30-00150 to appear in the URL) as this will be immensely helpful for Searches on Google by VIN # for owners new or old.

They don't float my boat.

I have video footage of my 73 240z and they were under the bumper as described. I have no reason to believe they were ever anywhere else and the car was very original. So I believe AU market cars had them under the bumper. Probably above the bumper on UK cars for their lighting rules.

So the software get's me about 90% of the way there, but there will need to be some custom scripting to get the final 10% sorted and really make it work the way we want it to. Which means I'll need to look up how to 'hook' into the software. Attaching some screenshots to show the fields so far and how they work / look.

So... where do I being. 1. A lot of problems with existing registries in particular Zhome.com is that Carl Beck seems to only know basic HTML and therefore most of his site is just static pages of HTML content, with no database behind it. This makes updating and maintaining something like this much harder as he has to go in and manually update these HTML pages. Other registers are unfortunately not where the traffic is or members are actively posting which makes them harder to find and use. 2. Maintenance is important, this current software allows for wiki-like edits meaning you can track the history of an entry and changes over time. Users could enter new details, but require approval for edits etc.. Site moderators could make sure the edits and entries are of a certain level / standard. 3. I am hoping errors can be reduced by making certain fields drop down lists (eg: original colour selection), checkboxes for auto vs manual transmission, and validation of field entries like engine numbers to make sure they are entered in a certain format. Of course nothing is perfect so that's where moderators would come in to help maintain the details in an accurate matter. 4. The duplication issue should be less of a problem because moderators would ensure there is not an existing entry plus you can edit existing entries and update owner details etc.. The entries would be ordered by chassis number so it should be easy to double-check. 5. This is tricky, but the idea of verification of ownership is a good idea, perhaps uploading a photo of the car and it's ID plate would be a good idea? We could have a 'verified' entry vs non-verified for cars we know of but can't be 100% sure still exist etc.. 6. I do think the idea of 'private' records is something to consider also. Some members might want to share the info for the betterment of understanding S30z's as a complete picture but only want site admins to be able to view the information. So having some sort of flag that determines who can see the info would be a good idea. Yes I think focusing on HS30's to begin with might be a good idea, once I've ironed out all those issue I can look at adding other prefix's and suffix's for other markets and models after the 240z. So I agree with all those points and think I sort of mentioned the same above before reading your entire post. I think having the option for a 'private' listing is a great way to get best of both world's. Like you said there are far more early 240z's still knocking about than I had imagined, much less of the first 100 than I thought though. And many are under the knife, very few are really restored to original shape or have matching numbers etc.. Possibly the most interesting thing I've learnt is that a few of the first VIN # (HS30) cars were sent to South Pacific Island's initially for sale / promo which is pretty cool as it shows Nissan was really trying in every market. Something Alan has been trying to hammer home to Carl Beck for years haha. HS30 00016 = Norfolk Island, then New Zealand and finally in Australia. HS30 00012 = Papua New Guinea and then it finally made it's way here. Where else did Nissan send them, hopefully such a registry can help shine a light on these questions and give us a more complete picture of the S30z story. Will post photos of what I've put together so far...

So are you doing a full resto on this car or just a freshen up?

Good to see you're around again. It's been a while, oh say about 10 years haha.

Hmm I wonder if for a time he was living in Caulfield or had a g/f living there? I used to see a car like this parked in a block of units car park and I remember 1 night myself and 2 friends were looking at it and some guy came out to investigate what was going on, it would have been about 8pm at night so he was looking a little worried like we might be trying to steal the car. Anyway he said it wasn't his car but a neighbors car and it was pretty loud. Never did meet the owner but saw it a couple of times in my area (when I lived in Melbourne) seem to recall panasport style wheels on it, but my memory could be hazy. If it's the same car (and I'm still not sure), I used to see it hibernate here (in the car park below the flats). https://goo.gl/maps/SK4m2 Then again not too many 2+2s look that good in that colour and have been in my area of Victoria, so it's a good chance it's the same car.

Feel free to start a new thread to let me know what you'd like to see?

By the way this wasn't a Victorian car at 1 stage was it? Previous owner living in Elsternwick / Caulfield area? I remember a really nice 2+2 in that area around early 2000s.

Wow lovely 2+2 I recall seeing it on Gumtree. Funny you saw a member on the boat. Looks like S30z enthusiasts are everywhere!

Just going to leave this link here. http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/3775-240z-year-of-manufacture/ Contains useful build date info. Should be useful later. Also made some progress on building a Registry for s30z's, hopefully be able to show you a demo shortly for feedback. Do want to customise it a little to help separate between HS30, RS30, GRS30 and eventually other market prefix and maybe also suffix? Try and build a comprehensive global register that can be filtered based on different attributes.

I like all the early colours. Hard to pick an absolute favourite. I am very partial to Blue on Blue combo but I've never seen an AU delivered 240z in that colour combo. Would love to know if we got any in that trim combo. I like Safari Gold a lot because it reflects the Zeitgeist of the time. Porsche had Bahama Yellow which was similar and our local cars like E38 Chrysler Charger in Hot Mustard. I still recall seeing the colour on cars in Australia into the 90s and hating it, but I think that's why I like it so much now. It has gone from in vogue to uncool and back around again.

Is that price correct? About 600 AUD? I would have thought you would need to add another 0 ? It is an empty shell though.. Probably terminal rust judging by firewall.