WTB: Indicator housing and lens?

[gav240z]

Hi guys,

 

I'm after 240z lens housings for the front indicators (lower valance piece at the front of the car).

 

Interestingly it seems there might be a difference in length? Not sure if anyone can shed light on this. I think the top 1 was off my other 240z, the bottom 1 came off the Safari Gold car.

 

 

The top 1 is a passenger side housing which is in good condition (exception is broken screws embedded into housing, might be able to drill these out).

 

Back of the 240z housing for comparison.

 

The longer version at the bottom has a cracked housing.

 

Driver side has a crack at the top right hand corner (piece missing).

 

It's also got a crack on the other side-which will probably fall apart at any moment.

 

This was a 260z type housing (note: 2 bulb holders). It also has R stamped on it for right (240z) ones don't have this.

 

What I need

1. I'm looking for a driver side housing (240z style) - maybe shorter version if possible?

2. Or I'm looking for a complete set (without cracks) and lens can be in any shape...

[Zedman240®]

I think I have one at home but forgot which side it is...Ill get back to ya.

[gav240z]

Yeah thanks mate, no rush on this will keep my eyes open for them when they come up. Since I was refreshing my tail lights I decided to start on these. I think I can get replacement lens pretty easily, just the housing that's the hard part.

 

I was surprised to find different length versions and the 260z ones have the split between indicator and parker which I thought was just the lens, didn't realise it was also the housing that was different.

[gav240z]

For my own reference.

http://streetlens.com/japanese.html

http://klearz.com/datsun.html

 

Yahoo! Auctions category.

http://auctions.search.yahoo.co.jp/search?p=s30&aq=-1&oq=&x=0&y=0&ei=UTF-8&tab_ex=commerce&auccat=2084198324&slider=0

[WA240Z]

Hi Gav,

 

Sorry for the thread hijack, I hope you don't mind me butting in with a question. Did the early 240's, without the separate front blinkers mounted on the bumper bar, have a single white globe that functioned for both the turn indicator and parkers? Or did the early 240's not have parker lights only blinkers?

 

Cheers, Billy.

[gilltech]

Now I'm butting in...sorry,

yes the 260s use a different housing (from a 240) with a metal divider in the centre (that rusts out).

The 240s I think must have had 3 different combinations of parkers & indicators at the front depending on the market.

 

I think...not 100% sure though...that the last of the 240s used the 260-style, there were a number of parts cross-overs between the '73 240 & early-74 260. [Or maybe I've just seen retro-fits, people fitting whatever Z parts they can source at the time.....]

 

[Zedman240®]

The 240's used the single globe but with the double 21/5W filaments for parker and turn. I think only the 73 z's used just a single 5W globe with the 21W in the bumper mounted turn signal. 260's had the seperate 5W parker and the 21W turn globe in the one housing.

 

Gavin, I do have a left and right single globe lens and housing. Not sure if its my originals or spares. If these are spares, and I find my others, you're welcome to these.

[gilltech]

And many of the UK market cars didn't use those lower housings at all, having instead the bumper-mounted indicators & presumably parkers were contained within the 7" globes like on British sports cars. The corner valance panels were solid, no cut-outs for housings, just the pressing shapes in the metal.

 

Books like the old Haynes 'Datsun Z 240z/260z/280z Super Profile' have B&W and colour photos showing a range of UK-new 240s & 260s, some with but many without the lower housings.

 

That was the third version of 240 I was referring to.

[WA240Z]

The 240's used the single globe but with the double 21/5W filaments for parker and turn. I think only the 73 z's used just a single 5W globe with the 21W in the bumper mounted turn signal. 260's had the seperate 5W parker and the 21W turn globe in the one housing.

 

Thanks Zedman.

[gav240z]

Hi Gav,

 

Sorry for the thread hijack, I hope you don't mind me butting in with a question. Did the early 240's, without the separate front blinkers mounted on the bumper bar, have a single white globe that functioned for both the turn indicator and parkers? Or did the early 240's not have parker lights only blinkers?

 

Cheers, Billy.

 

The former, 240z's had a single globe with turn signal and parker. There were two filaments in the globe for each function. I just looked up photos of my 73 240z which was very original.

 

It had blinkers under the front bumper (next to license plate) and the clear parker lens' on each side. See photos below.

 

 

By 74 the turn signals on AU cars had moved into the fenders (like North American and Japanese markets had) and the 260z had the split parker / turn signal combo set up.

 

The 240's used the single globe but with the double 21/5W filaments for parker and turn. I think only the 73 z's used just a single 5W globe with the 21W in the bumper mounted turn signal. 260's had the seperate 5W parker and the 21W turn globe in the one housing.

 

This could be correct.

 

Gavin, I do have a left and right single globe lens and housing. Not sure if its my originals or spares. If these are spares, and I find my others, you're welcome to these.

 

Sounds good, let me know what you find. I put this wanted ad up just to see how much luck I had finding these. Unfortunately as the photos show mine are beyond reasonable repair.

 

As a side note, even though the housings look like different lengths, the lens fits on both fine? It must be some weird optical illusion going on cause it's spinning me out!

[Brabham]

There was an eBay seller selling the housings new in Australia a shortish time ago. When you put new lenses on I would also go to 316 stainless screws as the plated ones all rust out. Think the screws are M3.5 though and I have not been able to find a supplier for them in stainless.

 

Cheers

[gav240z]

Hey Dimitri how did you go? Have you got any spare housings (driver side preferably?) or full housing with lens?

 

Just cleaned up mine, not perfect but they are ok...

http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/topic,16057.msg170682.html#msg170682

 

Definitely need a housing though...

 

 

[GongZ]

There was an eBay seller selling the housings new in Australia a shortish time ago. (snip)

 

The seller was Street Lens (David Azzopardi Manufacturing, Minto NSW) which was shown in Gav's post;

 

For my own reference.

http://streetlens.com/japanese.html (snip)

 

From memory, the housings he made were the 2 bulb variety and he made matching lenses with a partial amber section for the blinker bulb.

 

I spoke to David (Azzopardi) about the housings about 6 months ago, and he had none in stock at that time. He did say that he might make some more in the future - so I imagine that a group purchase could be arranged if there is sufficient interest.

[bsmith555]

Hi Gav and all

Do you happen to know if the parker/turn signal combo housing of the 260Z is  interchangeable with the '73 240Z turn only  housing? (I have the single filament turn bulb and housing in my 03/ '73 Z) i.e. can a 260z combo turn /parker be installed directly into the 240Z?

 

Alternatives - any experiences with either...?

1. to replace my  single filament 21W turn bulb with a 21W/5W double filament to create the combo of earlier 240Z's - sounds easy

2. install a parker light into a new  headlight - along with getting an brighter H4 halogen bulb headlight.

Brian

 

 

 

[webmanic]

I may have a spare set under the house that I could part with but I am not sure of the condition. I think there is a crack in one of the lens but I am happy just to sell the housings if needed. There are many minor differences in the housing moulds even form month to month in the early years. These ones came off a 1970 240z (clear lens, not orange). I'll have a look later today.

 

Bugger, I seem to have kept only the good lens and chucked the rest....I'll keep looking.

Edited October 25, 2016 by webmanic

[GongZ]

Hello Brian,

 

Hi Gav and all

Do you happen to know if the parker/turn signal combo housing of the 260Z is  interchangeable with the '73 240Z turn only  housing? (I have the single filament turn bulb and housing in my 03/ '73 Z) i.e. can a 260z combo turn /parker be installed directly into the 240Z?

 

Alternatives - any experiences with either...?

1. to replace my  single filament 21W turn bulb with a 21W/5W double filament to create the combo of earlier 240Z's - sounds easy

2. install a parker light into a new  headlight - along with getting an brighter H4 halogen bulb headlight.

Brian

 

 

Your question is a bit confusing. The Australian 1973 240Z's were fitted with amber front turn signals in separate housings on top of the front bumper.

(not below the bumper where many owners relocated them - see http://www.viczcar.c...blinking-story/ for more info).

 

Turn signal >  

                 Parking light ^

 

The light housings below the bumper in the bottom of the guards were clear/white parking lights.

 

You could fit the combined parking/turn signal lower lights from a 260Z. I have seen many 240Z's with this set up and I believe that they fit the bodywork without modification.

 

You asked -

Alternatives - any experiences with either...?

1. to replace my  single filament 21W turn bulb with a 21W/5W double filament to create the combo of earlier 240Z's - sounds easy

2. install a parker light into a new  headlight - along with getting an brighter H4 halogen bulb headlight

 

My car still has the original set up but I have contemplated both alternatives.

 

Option 1 should be possible but not strictly legal.

As Peter pointed out in the abovementioned topic -

PeterH, on 08 Sept 2015 - 09:15 AM, said:

I bought my first 240Z new in early 1973....It had the turn signals above the bumper bar and no over riders....

 

ADR 6 came into effect for passenger cars in January 1973

https://infrastructu...sign/pdf/06.pdf

 

...

This rule states that cars manufactured on or after 1 Jan 1973 must have amber turn signal lamps. You could amber bulbs or lenses, but that would make the parking lights amber, which I think is against ADR's too.

 

Option 2 should be fine (and I think it is my preferred option) provided that you change the wiring to make the lower lights into the turn signals and fit either amber bulbs or amber lenses.

Edited October 25, 2016 by GongZ