Anyone running these triple Carb?

[adam]

I will definitely let you know, Tai. I am still doing research into how to tune them and common issues so it'll be a few weeks yet before I make an order. But at the moment, I am leaning towards doing what Sydney Mike has done, purchase the Kameari manifold and linkage kit separately to a set of 3 webers (not sure whether 40 or 45mm yet or through which supplier.

 

I was tossing up Mikunis or Webers but jets are easier to source for Weber carbs.

 

And buying the Kameari manifold separately was for the quality linkages as they're apparently important lol

[Matt]

im running old 45dcoe SK's , learnt alot rebuilding and tuning myself.

 

i do like the external float and accel pump stroke adjustments, really helped setting things up.

they do use their own sk/oer jets tho, but you can order new ones setup for weber jets.

 

parts are quite easy as you can just order from here - http://lupinusflower.ocnk.net/

hassle free and usually around the week mark to the door, prices are reasonably close to weber parts.

 

it did take a wideband o2 and about $600 worth of jets to get where i'm at, but i wanted to do it myself.

 

ol pic

[Retro Z]

Are you blokes mad?? 

The prices weberperformance are offering are close to equal that of most of the US west coast suppliers..

Shop locally and support aussie businesses !

 

Yeah Chris. If you read what i wrote in my previous reply you will see that i mentioned i want to buy from weberperformance as its the same price as some others and local! But tophead has the same for around $1600 aud hence why i want to see what shipping would cost.

[Retro Z]

I will definitely let you know, Tai. I am still doing research into how to tune them and common issues so it'll be a few weeks yet before I make an order. But at the moment, I am leaning towards doing what Sydney Mike has done, purchase the Kameari manifold and linkage kit separately to a set of 3 webers

 

I got a price from USA for around $1300 aud delivered for the Weber 152 carbs. So financially it may be more viable too.

[sydney mike]

Just another thing to consider, ask the US sellers to confirm if the 45dcoe they supply is the 152G. Not sure if it's scare tactics but the aussie sellers mentions the difference here:

 

http://www.weberperformance.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=1_9&products_id=1

 

Also, if the US seller is using UPS/FEDEX there will be no escaping GST etc(invoice will be over AU$1k). IMO, the savings would have to be $200+ for me to get them from the US.

 

I got a price from USA for around $1300 aud delivered for the Weber 152 carbs. So financially it may be more viable too.

[Retro Z]

Just another thing to consider, ask the US sellers to confirm if the 45dcoe they supply is the 152G. Not sure if it's scare tactics but the aussie sellers mentions the differece

 

I read about that. I asked the US sellers a few months back and they confirmed theirs isn't the 152G, but they claim the kits they sell are configured for L-series and it wouldnt matter?.

 

Good point about the import tax. After crunching some numbers factoring in paypal exchange rates etc i think it will actually cost more than buying it from Weberperformance here in Aus. So i guess the decision is made for me.

[Retro Z]

Quick question guys.

 

In regards to something mentioned previously from Sydney Mike. "The kameari kit contains the bakelite spacers that alot of people recommend over soft mounts."

 

Weber performance offer a upgrade (through their website) under the softmounts selection tab. With an option to upgrade to Aluminium for $103. Would this upgrade fix the issues associated with the regular softmounts supplied in their carb kit?

[luvemfast]

What issue with soft mounts?

Aluminium upgrade? Hogwash!

 

You need a soft mount to stop the harmonics/vibration from turning your fuel into a foam.

Use Thackeray washers too!

[Retro Z]

So the weber kit in its entirety (with tuning/adjustments) will work fine then Simon? I'm not an expert and have near zero knowledge when it comes to carbs hence all the questions.

[NZeder]

You need a soft mount to stop the harmonics/vibration from turning your fuel into a foam.

right I see your problem then. You are not emptying your float bowls fast enough

[d3c0y]

If you havent bought the carbs yet, don't get the Webers, just buy new OERs. They are a bit more money but a much better carb. I went with Weber 50s over the OER 48s and wish i had spent the extra money.

 

 

If you do insist on going Webers, check out Top End performance in the states. They are great to deal with and way cheaper than buying them locally and will put the appropriate price on your postage if you get my drift. They as know exactly what you need for a zed setup wise. I also went with the Kameari 50mm manifold with my setup, but with the plain linkage setup.

[luvemfast]

Isolators/soft mounts don't get tightened.

It's like trying to catch a cricket ball with rigid hands. it'll bloddy hurt! Same theory goes, soft hands absorb the impact and shock.

Another problem that people do is overtighten the Weber soft mount and end up breaking the casting around the hole.

 

There is also a flat spot that will be evident on the dyno. I've seen it with my own set-up, hence the need for thackery washers.

 

So the weber kit in its entirety (with tuning/adjustments) will work fine then Simon? I'm not an expert and have near zero knowledge when it comes to carbs hence all the questions.

It all seems to be there.

Except filters and the fuel supply (pump) upgrade you'll also need.

Why not get on the blower and ask Weber Performance all of your questions?

 

right I see your problem then. You are not emptying your float bowls fast enough

Lol 

 

 

[adam]

If you havent bought the carbs yet, don't get the Webers, just buy new OERs. They are a bit more money but a much better carb. I went with Weber 50s over the OER 48s and wish i had spent the extra money.

 

What issues did you run into, Jake? And what makes the Mikunis better than the Webers? There's a bit of info with Dellortos and Webers, people preferring the Dellortos in most cases, but is it their tunability? Sensitivity to temp/condition changes?

 

I have read a bit on tuning the webers and it all seems pretty straight forward if you've got a wide band (famous last words!)

[adam]

The issues seem to have arrised once you have a bigger cam, high compression and lighter flywheel, etc. Issues with spikes.

 

[Retro Z]

I've got a headache .

 

Money is not such a issue for me anymore compared to when i started this thread a year ago. I just want to know what to buy and from where. Due to my lack of time and resources to find bits and peices etc a brand new kit or partial kit is a must for me aswell as easy to source spare parts. Thats why the Webers seem like a good thing to me.

 

Also Simon i thought i'd ask the questions here as the answers will be Z specific and from experience rather than a shop trying to sell me something. Also because it may help other members such as Adam.

 

My car will only be for street driving and won't see the track ever.

[d3c0y]

What issues did you run into, Jake? And what makes the Mikunis better than the Webers? There's a bit of info with Dellortos and Webers, people preferring the Dellortos in most cases, but is it their tunability? Sensitivity to temp/condition changes?

 

I have read a bit on tuning the webers and it all seems pretty straight forward if you've got a wide band (famous last words!)

 

 

I have a flat spot in the low transition that Les and Peter just couldnt tune out of it even with 3 days of tuning. Basically accelerator pumps in the mikuni/OER would fix the issue.

Webers are fine for track work as the RPM doesnt drop down there, but on the street its a pain in the ass as it's around 60kph in 4th with my old gearing.

 

 

Sure big cams and head work are going to make it worse, but still at the end of the day Mikuni/OER is just a nicer carb and will be better on the street for the same reasons. New Webers just arent as good and are just cheaper. I wish i had sprung the extra money for OER 48s.

[luvemfast]

Also Simon i thought i'd ask the questions here as the answers will be Z specific and from experience rather than a shop trying to sell me something. Also because it may help other members such as Adam.

 

My car will only be for street driving and won't see the track ever.

Call Lou Mondello then.

He can fix all your ailments!

[Retro Z]

Got a price for the OER 45mm kit delivered after exchange rates etc of  $2085 via DHL economy from RHD japan. And factoring in the tax its pretty much lineball with the Webers in Price. So further research continues

Call Lou Mondello then.

He can fix all your ailments!

 

Will do Thanks Simon.

 

 

[G]

Come over to my place and have a look at my OER's.

They're new and they use weber internal parts so supply is easy.

 

Gareth

[adam]

 

I have a flat spot in the low transition that Les and Peter just couldnt tune out of it even with 3 days of tuning. Basically accelerator pumps in the mikuni/OER would fix the issue.

Webers are fine for track work as the RPM doesnt drop down there, but on the street its a pain in the ass as it's around 60kph in 4th with my old gearing.

 

 

Sure big cams and head work are going to make it worse, but still at the end of the day Mikuni/OER is just a nicer carb and will be better on the street for the same reasons. New Webers just arent as good and are just cheaper. I wish i had sprung the extra money for OER 48s.

 

Interesting, thanks. I've read a big thread over on hybrid z about trying to tune out the dip in the lower range and they couldn't find a solution also. Modifications just made it more severe.

 

I'll have to take a look into the OERs.

[Gordo]

I have triple 45 webers, used to have all sorts of problems with tuning them. Had Peter Mac and less Collins sort them out and I was speechless as to how good they are now. No flat spots. Drivability around town is awesome .

Can drive from as low as 1500 revs and pull in 5th gear. No coughing or farting, just smooth.

I would still go webers if I had to do it again.

[Retro Z]

PM sent Gordo.

[d3c0y]

Call Lou Mondello then.

He can fix all your ailments!

 

 

From memory he tried, he couldn't do it either.

[luvemfast]

My car will only be for street driving and won't see the track ever.

Call Lou Mondello then.

He can fix all your ailments!

From memory he tried, he couldn't do it either.

Your stroker is a whole diffderent animal Jake.

A stock/road car will be more than tuned well!

[d3c0y]

Oh yeah that's not my point. What i was trying to say was that my engine highlights the short comings of the Webers more than the normal.

 

 

Yes they will do the job and they are the cheaper option, however the Mukinis/OER don't have that short coming.