Herb's 240Z 05/73 Hs30 102298

[Hawkwind]

So in case anyone is wondering where it disappeared to, I bought this on the weekend. 

It's currently on transport from Perth to Cairns.

Apparently it has zero rust. Did have a sunroof filled back in (which concerned me at first).

But from the photos is looking super straight.

Comes with a 260z engine (not the original)  ... auto gearbox, but I've also bought a manual with it.

 

You can see one of the earlier ads here on the classifieds link, page 295 :

http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/1924-cars-for-sale-3rd-party-sites-ebay-carsales-etc/page-295

 

Or on my google drive i've got a shared folder for the images:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=19IUBLZiqbveNiczWY4J9MXvlLrFzeLoG

Edited May 23, 2018 by Hawkwind

[kamarchi]

wow, chassis looks mint!

[gav240z]

Looks like good buying and blue is quite a rare colour for a 240z as far as I can tell.

[260DET]

Congrats on the buy, as you'd know Cairns is the rust capital so please please keep her in a lock up garage and get a full rust treatment too. You have a nice investment there.

[OdinZ]

Congrats! Can i ask who you have used for transport?

[gav240z]

Hey when you get a chance, can you confirm if it's matching #'s L24 (I couldn't make out L24 number on engine bay stamp in photo resolution was too low)?

 

It appears it was auto from factory, my data says the sister car was also an auto.

 

It looks like factory colour was metallic blue (114) and not the earlier solid 903 blue.

 

Either way blue is rare of all the 420 odd cars I've recorded so far (HS30s) only 12 are 903 or 114 Blue. That's 2.8% of all HS30's.*

 

*Of course that's what I've recorded so far.. I've seen a few Blue 240z's over the years, not sure if they are all originally blue though! It also explain why I've never seen an HS30 with Blue/Blue colour combo before. So few Blue ones to start with and the blue interior is rare enough, let alone a combo of the 2.

[GongZ]

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It looks like factory colour was metallic blue (114) and not the earlier solid 903 blue.

 

Either way blue is rare of all the 420 odd cars I've recorded so far (HS30s) only 12 are 903 or 114 Blue. That's 2.8% of all HS30's.*

 

*Of course that's what I've recorded so far.. I've seen a few Blue 240z's over the years, not sure if they are all originally blue though! It also explain why I've never seen an HS30 with Blue/Blue colour combo before. So few Blue ones to start with and the blue interior is rare enough, let alone a combo of the 2.

 

Yea but..

 

 

My 9/73

[gav240z]

Yea but..

 

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My 9/73

 

Thanks I didn't have that recorded (so that's another blue car). Did your car have black interior and manual from factory also?

[GongZ]

Thanks I didn't have that recorded (so that's another blue car). Did your car have black interior and manual from factory also?

 

Black interior, automatic transmission.

 

I will be interested to see if Herb's (5/73) car is also 307 blue. From what I have seen, 307 was only available for very late 240Z's and then 260Z's.

[Hawkwind]

Congrats! Can i ask who you have used for transport?

Dad organised the transport.

He put a request listing on Loadshift.com.au for Perth to Cairns and had about 4 calls... one stupid one for $5000.

One was $1800 on a trailer with a tarp over it.. We went for $2800 inside a furniture truck.. which needed a Tilt Tray tow truck to turn up to load it on. 

We needed something enclosed to keep out the dust and rain as the car isn't sealed.. Also, there were 3 or 4 large boxes. 

$2800 is really good value for this type of tranport. I've moved Cars Perth to Cairns before on the back of Car Trucks by the likes of CEVA logistics and Cockburn Transport. CEVA from memory was a little exp. Cockburn Transport was 2 cars for $3500 in about 2014-2015. 

Dad said Loadshift and Truckit,net are really good to use. Basically you can find backloads i.e. Full trucks coming over from somewhere, and then looking to take something back rather than returning empty!! It's win win for us and them.

[Hawkwind]

Hey when you get a chance, can you confirm if it's matching #'s L24 (I couldn't make out L24 number on engine bay stamp in photo resolution was too low)?

 

It appears it was auto from factory, my data says the sister car was also an auto.

 

It looks like factory colour was metallic blue (114) and not the earlier solid 903 blue.

 

Either way blue is rare of all the 420 odd cars I've recorded so far (HS30s) only 12 are 903 or 114 Blue. That's 2.8% of all HS30's.*

 

*Of course that's what I've recorded so far.. I've seen a few Blue 240z's over the years, not sure if they are all originally blue though! It also explain why I've never seen an HS30 with Blue/Blue colour combo before. So few Blue ones to start with and the blue interior is rare enough, let alone a combo of the 2.

 

Gav I will have a look in July when i'm back in Cairns. I won't see the car before then.

It's got a 260z auto in it atm, with an additional manual gearbox, clutch kit and pedal box that he threw in for an extra $500.

So, I assume you're asking to see what the L24 number is on the ID plate..

Also, how did you know about what it's factory colour was? What list is that from?

I've looked at the owner's registry list on http://www.zhome.com/IZCC/ZRegisters/classicHS.htm 

[JDM-TOY]

Hey thats a great buy congrats. Just a question thats also related to my build too, why is the right rear control arm upside down? I just recently realised my right rear control arm was upside down too.

 

Is this normal?

[GongZ]

Hey thats a great buy congrats. Just a question thats also related to my build too, why is the right rear control arm upside down? I just recently realised my right rear control arm was upside down too.

 

Is this normal?

 

It's normal - the control arms are identical so one is mounted 'upside down' to suit. A quirky way to cut down on production costs.

 

[JDM-TOY]

It's normal - the control arms are identical so one is mounted 'upside down' to suit. A quirky way to cut down on production costs.

 

Rear Control Arms.JPG

Hi Ian

 

Thanks for that I was about to call Stewart Wilkinson and ask if he had the correct side up control arm laying around loll

[gav240z]

Hi Ian

 

Thanks for that I was about to call Stewart Wilkinson and ask if he had the correct side up control arm laying around loll

 

Pretty sure he would have sold you a left handed screw driver if you asked for that.

 

 

Gav I will have a look in July when i'm back in Cairns. I won't see the car before then.

It's got a 260z auto in it atm, with an additional manual gearbox, clutch kit and pedal box that he threw in for an extra $500.

So, I assume you're asking to see what the L24 number is on the ID plate..

Also, how did you know about what it's factory colour was? What list is that from?

I've looked at the owner's registry list on http://www.zhome.com/IZCC/ZRegisters/classicHS.htm 

 

Colour is an assumption looking at the interior colour, but also I know that only early 240z's had 903 Blue, but later ones had 307 or 114. But as I say it's rare to find on HS30's these days and certainly seems like an uncommon colour from the data I've put together so far.

 

Yes the original L24 number (if the 1 in the car is not the original matching engine no.) I use the L24 sequence to help me know what year cars an L24 motor belongs to, it also helps with production / compliance dates etc..(since early cars didn't always have a compliance plate fitted).

[Hawkwind]

Hi Ian

 

Thanks for that I was about to call Stewart Wilkinson and ask if he had the correct side up control arm laying around loll

I was wondering the same thing!!!! Thanks for the answer

Kind of annoying that plate thingy on the control arm is on the top side on one side though - No spot of the lift to cup underneath :/

[Hawkwind]

Pretty sure he would have sold you a left handed screw driver if you asked for that.

 

 

 

Colour is an assumption looking at the interior colour, but also I know that only early 240z's had 903 Blue, but later ones had 307 or 114. But as I say it's rare to find on HS30's these days and certainly seems like an uncommon colour from the data I've put together so far.

 

Yes the original L24 number (if the 1 in the car is not the original matching engine no.) I use the L24 sequence to help me know what year cars an L24 motor belongs to, it also helps with production / compliance dates etc..(since early cars didn't always have a compliance plate fitted).

 

On a side note.. What are the odds of sourcing an L24 engine / what are prices like / are they better than 260z's L26 which as far as i know are the same, with same bore, but have a longer stroke, and lower compression?

The guy also had a set of triple webers he wanted to sell me for $1700.. said they owed $2300 in work and parts done on em - i passed. But, I love the sound of the Solex on my 2000 Sports.. So, was wanting to go a triple setup ... The other option is open throttle body EFI which should have the same awesome sound? What are yall opionions?

Edited May 24, 2018 by Hawkwind

[GongZ]

You could contact George, he has L24-125911 which is from a 1973 240Z and wants to sell it.

http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/17021-l24-engine/?do=findComment&comment=202007

[gav240z]

On a side note.. What are the odds of sourcing an L24 engine / what are prices like / are they better than 260z's L26 which as far as i know are the same, with same bore, but have a longer stroke, and lower compression?

The guy also had a set of triple webers he wanted to sell me for $1700.. said they owed $2300 in work and parts done on em - i passed. But, I love the sound of the Solex on my 2000 Sports.. So, was wanting to go a triple setup ... The other option is open throttle body EFI which should have the same awesome sound? What are yall opionions?

 

RE: L24 vs L26, much of a muchness really.. in stock form. The extra displacement of the L26 would help slightly, but they are generally of a lower compression ratio. So it's all a bit moot.

 

I can't comment on how good the webers are, as I've only really driven my own car with Triple Mikuni 44s and another L28 280z with 40mm Webers, the 44's are definitely more lively, not sure about 45 webers though!

 

I can recommend Triples though, 1 of the best things I did on my 240z.