A retro 260Z add from 1974

[Toecutter]

An old add from Wheels magazine I think back in 74!

[Natez]

what i hate about 74 adds is that they are all about 2+2s, i havn't found any 2 seater adds, really want to get one and frame it etc

[NZeder]

I have a 260z 2 seater ad somewhere in my collection. I will dig it out and visit my mother (who has a scanner) then I will see if I can convert to PDF or something and then attach here.

 

Cheers

Mike

[lambs]

what i hate about 74 adds is that they are all about 2+2s' date=' i havn't found any 2 seater adds, really want to get one and frame it etc[/quote']

 

Nissan made a marketing decsion that the 2+2 was more likely to sell in Australia, so they concentrated their ads on that model for the most part.

 

In those days there were also import quota's imposed by the Federal Govt, and that combined with the 2+2 decison by Nissan meant that less 2-seater 260Z's were imported than 2+2's. In fact less 260Z 2-seaters were imported than 240Z's which means that model 260Z is actually rarer than 240Z's (no such thing as a 240Z 2+2, except in prototype form).

[NZeder]

what i hate about 74 adds is that they are all about 2+2s' date=' i havn't found any 2 seater adds, really want to get one and frame it etc[/quote']

 

Nissan made a marketing decsion that the 2+2 was more likely to sell in Australia, so they concentrated their ads on that model for the most part.

 

In those days there were also import quota's imposed by the Federal Govt, and that combined with the 2+2 decison by Nissan meant that less 2-seater 260Z's were imported than 2+2's. In fact less 260Z 2-seaters were imported than 240Z's which means that model 260Z is actually rarer than 240Z's (no such thing as a 240Z 2+2, except in prototype form).

 

I agree I think the RS30 had a total production run of 21,000 ish. Compare this to over 100,000 240z (forget the HLS30 or the RLS30 etc ie LHD cars, but then if you do count them the US only got 260z in 74 and part of 75 = lowest production run of all Zeds)

 

I think the 2+2 were in the 100,000 mark also.

[C.A.R.]

Oi, hold off on the 2+2 bashing, thanks... :roll:

[gav240z]

Hi Lurch, I don't think there really bashing the 2+2's more just discussing the reason why so many 2+2's are here as oppose to the 260z 2 seaters.

A 260z 2+2 is still a Zed more so than a S130 or Z31 in my opinion, I used to own a 2+2 260z aswell and so did Sulio .

[lambs]

Oi' date=' hold off on the 2+2 bashing, thanks... :roll:[/quote']

 

Don't think there was any, actually. I owned a 'wagon' many years ago and they're quite a nice car with plenty of room for 2 people touring with the back seat down. Also good for a small/young family.

[Zeddophile]

In fact less 260Z 2-seaters were imported than 240Z's which means that model 260Z is actually rarer than 240Z's (no such thing as a 240Z 2+2, except in prototype form).

 

I like this thought! Perhaps it adds value? :twisted:

[C.A.R.]

I was just razzing guys... :wink:

[NZeder]

All good re the 2+2 - I have just checked my Part Catalog and it looks like as far as export market 260z (RHD) there were only a few more 2+2 than 2 seater (373 more 2+2) - so I stand corrected. However if you include the US market 2+2 then there are more. So NZ and AU are in the same boat with more 2+2 imported. So for those that are interested see the production date's and car chassis numbers below (including the US market, however I am still looking for the JDM aka S30/S31, not HS30 or RS30 etc, production numbers - checking with a mate in Japan you might have access to the part's catalog of these models)

 

Back to the 2+2 thing I once read in a racing book that somewhere between 98" and 102" is the ideal wheelbase for a racecar. A 240z/260z 2 seater is 90" whereas the 2+2 is 102". So pickup and bus and have some fun I say

 

The following information is for a Factory Nissan parts catalog I have (Final edition printed in 1979)

overall length (mm) 4,136=240z 4,115=260z 2seater 4,425=260z 2+2

overall width (mm) 1,630=240z/260z 2 seater 1,650=260z 2+2

overall height (mm) 1,286=240z 1,280=260z 2seat 1,290=260z 2+2

wheel base (mm) 2,305=240z/260z 2 seat 2,605=260z 2+2

tread --- Front (mm) 1,356=240z 1,355=260z both

--- Rear (mm) 1,347=240z 1,345=260z both

 

Tread differences between the 240z and 260z 2 seater is due to the 240z 185/SR/14 vs the 260z 195/SR/14 fitted standard.

 

Here are the production figures also

240z=HS30(A)(U)(Q)

Applied Date Oct69-May71=00003-00500 Jan71-Aug71=00501-01500 Sep71-Jun72=015001-14000 Jul72-Jul73=14001-101537

 

260z 2 seater=RS30(A)(U)(Q)(M)

Applied Date Aug73-Aug74=000001-005000 Sep74-Jul75=005001-010000 Aug75-Jul76=010001-015000 Aug76-Aug77=015001-021000 Sep77-Jun78=021001-021384

 

260z 2+2 seater=GRS30(A)(U)(Q)(M)

Applied Date Oct73-Aug74=000001-005000 Sep74-Jul75=005001-010000 Aug 75-Jul76=010001-015000 Aug76-Aug77=015001-021000 Sep77-Jun78=021001-021767

 

So a 260z either in 2 seater or 2+2 form is a rarer car than a 240z.

 

This info might help you when looking for parts for your 240/260z as you can work out the production year from the chassis number

 

US Production figures

240z=HLS30(F)(A)(U)(V)(N)

Applied Date: Oct69-May70=000013-021000 Jan71-Aug71=021001-046000 Sep71-Jun72=046001-120000 Jul72-Jul73=120001-172732

 

260z 2 seater=RLS30(F)(A)(U)(V)(N)

Applied Date: Aug73-Aug74=000001-060000 Sep74-Nov74=060001-200000

 

260z 2+2=GRLS30(F)(A)(U)(V)(N)

Applied Date: Oct73-Aug74=000001-015000 Sep74-Nov74=015000-060000

 

280z 2 seater=HLS30(F)(A)(U)(V)(N)

Applied Date: Dec74-Jul75=200001-270000 Aug75-Jul76=270001-350000 Aug76-Jul77=350001-420000 Aug77-Jun78=420001-470009

 

280z 2+2=GHLS30(F)(A)(U)(V)(N)

Applied Date: Dec74-Jul75=000001-030000 Aug75-Jul76=030001-060000 Aug76-Jul77=060001-110000 Aug77-Jun78=110001-124742

 

Cheers

Mike

[lambs]

So a 260z either in 2 seater or 2+2 form is a rarer car than a 240z.

 

I think that, regardless of the numbers, the 240Z will always be regarded as 'more collectable' than the 260Z because it was 'the first'. In particular the cars built before about mid '71 had a lot of unique features. OTOH, the 260Z had better ergonomics and an arguably improved chassis for track work (although somewhat at the expense of weight).

[Zeddophile]

Hmmm - according to those VIN numbers, my car (RS30 010089) was built early august '75, so spent about 9 months on the boats/docks/etc, before receiving australian compliance.....

[C.A.R.]

So pickup and bus and have some fun I say

Bus?!

BTW, thats what I'm doing already... :twisted:

 

It also seams like I'm the only other 2+2 owner on here, apart from 'smartarse'. Could this be true :?:

[VertexZ]

Hmmm - according to those VIN numbers' date=' my car (RS30 010089) was built early august '75, so spent about 9 months on the boats/docks/etc, before receiving australian compliance.....[/quote']

 

My 2+2 is 16258 and July 77 compliance, so similar sort of thing...

[zr240]

I think in the next 10 or so years a good 2+2 will be impossible to get as they seam to rust alot more than the 2 seater (or not as many people have look after them) so 2+2 may be a good investment.

 

Ash

[NZeder]

So pickup a bus and have some fun I say

Bus?!

BTW' date=' thats what I'm doing already... :twisted:

 

It also seams like I'm the only other 2+2 owner on here, apart from 'smartarse'. Could this be true :?:[/quote']

 

The Bus comment is a local one here in NZ, back when I first got my zed there were 2 brown 76/77 260z 2+2 racing. They were called the brown bus company (the two owners were flatmates) - a take on the Yellow bus company which runs the buses here in Auckland. Other Zed racers gave the guys a hard time about the 2+2 config - but they were very good cars and kept a lot of the competition behind them (including 240z/260z 2 seaters)

 

Cheers

Mike