MickieB Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Hey guys, just chasing some info and i know you're all a great wealth of knowledge. I'm currently trying to find a cheap 4wd, and one of the options i've been looking into is all the repairable write offs on the market. There are currently a few around with really minimal damage (maybe a head light and front fender bent). The question i have is, in this case where it's just a dented panel and a broken light, do you only need to repair the light (eg make the car pass a RWC) or do you need to repair all damage?? Cheers. Quote
YosemiteZed Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Hi I think in NSW (other states?) legislation has been brought in that if a car has been " Written Off " its registration is cancelled and cannot be re-registered and there is no more repairable write off category. Cheers Phil Quote
PZG302 Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 In queensland you may be able to register a written off car, but best to talk to TMR about it as I believe that this mybe changing in the near future. Quote
Patch Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 A mate of mine buys a few, Basically there are 2 types of cars. 1) repairable write off, can be repaired and put back on the road in any state, you need to show proof of purchase of the repair parts, so as not from stolen car, car needs to be totally repaired with a RWC and then needs to go to Transport over the pits with application to renew, you have to pay a fee and show proof of purchase for the parts, I think fee is $260.00, (he is over seas at the moment so can't check.) 2) un-repairable write off, normal for cars that have been in a flood, you can not put back on the road at all in any state. you will need to buy a smashed up wreck which is a repairable write off or one that is not on the register and you can use the parts, the chassis can not be used for road use. Quote
YosemiteZed Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Hi Again in NSW once the car is on the written off register the only person that can have repairs done is the owner who has to prove previous ownership (>28 days) before it was put on the register. repair compliance of course is not easy (min 2 pit reviews ) and an authorised repairers report. If the vehicle is from another state and was on the register the certificate of registration will have a notation on it to show that it was a repaired write off and in NSW again has to go under a special registration check by the RMS.if it has to transfer registration to this state This is not easy anymore and for a Zed it is best not be be "written off ' for damage unless it is total structural. So again I agree go and check what are all the new issues with your state transport rules as the game has changed here since Feb 2013 cheers Quote
Fairlady Z Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 not sure what rules in other states but in SA exactly same as QLD two inspections ID (repair check and parts check) second mechanical check entire car mechanically and plus repairs. need to pass both before its regod. cost for both just under $800 and inspectors are damn strict in both cases. but cars that are 15yrs or older don't get WOVR or under certain value. my Z got written off but i kept the wreck its not on WOVR. i can still register it even if it doesn't exist. but have seen older cars go through auctions with WOVR sticker. some insurance or some dimwit screwed up somewhere. Statutory write off only for parts cannot be re registered unless it can be reviewed under special condition ie prestige and low volume cars. so if u have a bent lambo and it stat write off you still can jump few hurdles and have it regod. Be a bitch to sell after wards. some cars that are damaged within first two years pending on policy u get a new car. hence u see occasionally few cars at auctions with very minimal damage almost just cosmetic. but the WOVR is still on it. and if u wan to resell the car after the new PPSR check that cost $3.80 give that info out as well as finance. 95% buyers will turn around and avoid it. unless your car is 30% or more reduced in value to a comparable non WOVR listed car. Because of few dishonest people everyone got shafted from crash shops to dealership and wreckers to hobbyist. I've seen some crazy prices at auctions on certain cars. makes you wonder who took the parts in first place. Don't blame them for making the laws. reduced the theft rate and stolen cars being resold. Quote
nat0_240_chevZ Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 just buy one where owner had no insurance and fix youself, no insp req'd Quote
Fairlady Z Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 just buy one where owner had no insurance and fix youself, no insp req'd +1 Quote
jamo240 Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 I almost bought one of these and decided not to. It was a NSW registered Mitsubishi Triton probably $15k under the normal value for one of these, and it all looked like a good thing as you couldn't tell it had ever even been damaged. However, I talked to the previous owner and he filled me in on a couple of things. First was that dealers won't touch them, and he had a very hard time selling it and more-or-less had to give it away, and perhaps most importantly, no insurer would cover it because it was a repairable write-off, so basically it was a paddock basher. I decided it was no longer cheap, and did not go with it. I would treat repairable write off's as parts cars. Cheers Jamo Quote
nat0_240_chevZ Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 insurance was no problem for myself on a previous repair, as they are unable to discriminate or dodge a claim, based on this fact, especially if there are receipts for the repairs (which you also need for a tier 3 insp). Dealers wont touch ANY of my cars, ever again, unless they are repairing something like a recall. I just dont trust them, I have seen the guys out back and lets just say, good mechanics DONT come normally from dealers. I would say go for a repairable write off with caution, But having done it myself, and helped out mates also going through it, It IS a headache dealing with power hungry authorities, whom have no real understanding of the industry they represent (ala regency park), OK they are there for a reason and yes there are alot of dodgy things going on they need to filter out. But my inspection experience was hI had to do the tier 3 twice (well a re-inspection, quick re-visit) then 1 roadworthy. The paperwork means MORE than the actual repairs performed, IE for example. Took car to a wheel aligner, all aligned (car had 4WS/hicas) gave me a fancy alignment report (spec'd up almost spot on), Needed this in the tier 3 and roadworthy inspections. Got through both inspections, and whilst leaving, check mirrors on both sides to see the car felt like it was crabbing. (both side mirrors showed me the gutter) Yes it was, the rear end wheels pointed to approx 1 meter toe, both in the same direction, needless to say im glad this wasnt picked up on inspection, however after 2 more return visits, to the wheel aligner, whom assures it wasnt his fault, then the car is BENT? I took it elsewhere, and straight away the aligner broke down in laughter and fixed it back to where it should be, I left and alignment was awesome, but had to return the steeringwheel back to central as it was moved 1/4 turn to the right, by prev wheel aligner. all sweet there after. If the inspections were doing their jobs they should have found this, and also the inspector at the roadworthy had to ask where it was hit, as he was unable to find traces of repaired damage, thats why we call them good tradesman, they do their job.....properly. nat0 rant end! Quote
D.O.G Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 and perhaps most importantly, no insurer would cover it because it was a repairable write-off, My Mazda Astina daily driver was a repairable write-off. I was told before I bought it (from a dealer) and got it at a good price (November 2011). The NRMA didn't seem to care and were happy to provide comprehensive insurance on the car. Quote
Scoota G Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Vic Roads Link http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/WhatHasToBeRegistered/Written-off+Vehicles/WhatistheWrittenoffVehiclesRegisterWOVR.htm In Victoria, light vehicles (including motorcycles) up to fifteen (15) years of age that are assessed as repairable or statutory write off are required to be recorded on the Written-off Vehicles Register. Quote
jamo240 Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Well it seems different people have had different experiences indicating it may be possible to get a RWO treated the same as an undamaged car from an insurance and rego perspective...that's good...perhaps there is still some common sense happening. Approach with caution however, and make absolutely sure you can get what you need before you hand over the bikkies. Cheers Jamo Quote
YosemiteZed Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Hi More importantly each State has different conditions and requirements to be able to re-register. If you buy in Vic /Qld does not guarantee registration in NSW when it is on the WOVR and been repaired as it still has o go under the strict process So it is more important to check your own state requirements before purchasing a vehicle that shows up on this register as NSW rules that came in on Feb 2013 has to be complied with to be registered in this state Cheers Phil Quote
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