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Is there any information available on production numbers and dates of production ? My '74 2 + 2 has a VIN of GRS30 000692, which I guess is failrly early on in the production, but the plate is quite difficult to read - I am guessing that is reads 02/74. Is anyone able to verify this ?

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Which plate are you looking at?  There should be the Nissan ID tag, which wont have any dates on it. Then the re's the Compliance plate which will have a month/year date on it.

 

Also you can compare engine numbers to the dates on the USA Z car register, as all the engine numbers were unique.

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These the two plates you mean ?

 

BodyPlate.jpg

 

BodyPlate1.jpg

 

I have listed it on the WA register, but couldn't find the US site you mentioned - at least, not one that has any 260's on it. Do you have a link for the site you mean ?

 

The engine number is L26 093773. Is anyone reproducing the Nissan type plate ? If not, I might get my contact in Germany to reproduce them as I have them reproduced for early Mercedes.

 

UPDATE: Still can't find anything that relates to dates relative to engine numbers, but I did find one site that indicates the 260 2+ 2 was produced from October '73 to Aug '74, with chassis numbers from 000001 to 015000. Based on 11 months production, at an average of 1364 per month, this should put mine as being produced in the first month of production i.e. Oct '73, but it would be nice to be able to verify it. Does Nissan have something like a Classic Centre or an archive that you can write to for details ?

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This is where I got the dates and serial numbers from:

 

http://www.300zx.cl/ga/300zx/images/serial%20number%20Datsun%20Z%20Car.htm

 

and this is where I got the production numbers from. This is for all 260's for 1974 (62,961 produced - 54,026 exported) and I presume that the coupe production was considerably greater than the 2 + 2. This seems to match up pretty well to the table, which totals 53,451. Not sure where the other 500 went ! Interesting that Australia and the UK received more 2 + 2's than anywhere else.

 

 

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Don't you mean it is 5213, not 213 ? If so, then that would make mine about right, being one year earlier. It seems clear from the compliance plate what the number is, but maybe I need to check the documents that came with the car as well - as well as the Nissan body plate, which isn't clear as the hose is in the way. Unfortunately the car is in storage so not so easy to get to.

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I have a 260Z with an Australian compliance plate dated 6/76.

 

I have a body number of 10230. It has an early 260Z body.

 

I have checked the USA VIN sheets which lists the production of my Z as being between 8/73 and 8/74.

 

Did this means the body of my Z sat around for quite a while before/after it came to Australia.  How does this compare to the Z series in the USA?  In 1976 the USA had the 280Z.

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Ive just looked at the Waz register again, 1974 appears to be all over the place, (out of my league) the chassis no's are confussing.

I reckon the 2 on your pic is actually a "7" ...I doubt they could have built 692 cars in 2 months. But then.......

 

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I think you are right about the 7/74, but that is the date it was complianced. I read somewhere that they were often put into storage after production (not necessarily just Zed's) and were shipped out pretty much at random - in other words, not FIFO (first in, first out). Looks like I am going to have to get the torch out and check the number stamped on the chassis. Not sure where you got Aug '73 from. I could only find Oct '73, which seems to fit in the with the end of the 240.

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Looks like 7/74 to me.  Other places to look for dates are on the tags on the seat belts, or so I've heard.

 

The engine number looks to high to be a 2/74.

 

Lets clear a few things up.

 

You cant compare RHD (Aussie) and LHD (USA) chassis numbers directly. The numbering systems ran in parallel for both types of cars.

 

Meaning that there was a rhd GRS30 00692, and a GRLS30 00692 both made at different times. (and there would also be JDM variants with the same number). For 240z they can be months to a year apart. For example. A guy over here has car HS30 00501. He looked at the US sites and though he had the first car made in 1970, but that was actually HLS30 00501. His 501 was made in 1971.

 

The date on the compliance plate is the closest thing we can by, since our cars weren't required to have build dates on them like the USA cars did.

 

Aussie 260z were made up to 1978.

 

The info on the wazregister is anecdotal at best. Unless I get people to send me photos of their compliance plates and id tags, I cant verify the details they are entering onto the wazregister.

 

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Well, that sort of clears that up, but what sort of numbering system is that ! At least with my Mercedes everything is sequential and they keep all the records of build dates, back to car number 1.

 

I have written to Nissan Australia seeking further information so will see if they reply.

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The following information is for a Factory Nissan parts catalog I have (Final edition printed in 1979)

overall length (mm) 4,136=240z 4,115=260z 2seater 4,425=260z 2+2

overall width (mm) 1,630=240z/260z 2 seater 1,650=260z 2+2

overall height (mm) 1,286=240z 1,280=260z 2seat 1,290=260z 2+2

wheel base (mm) 2,305=240z/260z 2 seat 2,605=260z 2+2

tread --- Front (mm) 1,356=240z 1,355=260z both

--- Rear (mm) 1,347=240z 1,345=260z both

 

Here are the production figures also

240z=HS30(A)(U)(Q)

Applied Date Oct69-May71=00003-00500 Jan71-Aug71=00501-01500 Sep71-Jun72=01501-14000 Jul72-Jul73=14001-101537

 

260z 2 seater=RS30(A)(U)(Q)(M)

Applied Date Aug73-Aug74=000001-005000 Sep74-Jul75=005001-010000 Aug75-Jul76=010001-015000 Aug76-Aug77=015001-021000 Sep77-Jun78=021001-021384

 

260z 2+2 seater=GRS30(A)(U)(Q)(M)

Applied Date Oct73-Aug74=000001-005000 Sep74-Jul75=005001-010000 Aug 75-Jul76=010001-015000 Aug76-Aug77=015001-021000 Sep77-Jun78=021001-021767

 

So a 260z either in 2 seater or 2+2 form is a rarer car than a 240z :) I don't know the production figures for the LHD/US market cars (I will see if I can find out) or the JDM S30 and S31 range.

 

This info might help you when looking for parts for your 240/260z as you can work out the production year from the chassis number Smile

 

Cheers

Mike

 

EDIT - US Production figures

240z=HLS30(F)(A)(U)(V)(N)

Applied Date: Oct69-May70=000013-021000 Jan71-Aug71=021001-046000 Sep71-Jun72=046001-120000 Jul72-Jul73=120001-172732

 

260z 2 seater=RLS30(F)(A)(U)(V)(N)

Applied Date: Aug73-Aug74=000001-060000 Sep74-Nov74=060001-200000

 

260z 2+2=GRLS30(F)(A)(U)(V)(N)

Applied Date: Oct73-Aug74=000001-015000 Sep74-Nov74=015000-060000

 

280z 2 seater=HLS30(F)(A)(U)(V)(N)

Applied Date: Dec74-Jul75=200001-270000 Aug75-Jul76=270001-350000 Aug76-Jul77=350001-420000 Aug77-Jun78=420001-470009

 

280z 2+2=GHLS30(F)(A)(U)(V)(N)

Applied Date: Dec74-Jul75=000001-030000 Aug75-Jul76=030001-060000 Aug76-Jul77=060001-110000 Aug77-Jun78=110001-124742

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I believe that the letters in brackets beside the model number are for Nissan's internal use only, to distinguish between various models. They may be (not sure) for representing different markets where the chassis was to be sent.

 

However, I could be wrong.

Correct I will lookup the book later and edit this post - but going by memory U = RHD (general spec), A = Auto, M = Australian and Q = Europe

 

Both my zed NZ new 240z and Naru new 260z are U general RHD spec and are slightly different to the M = Oz spec cars I have seen here in NZ

 

EDIT: my memory is correct.

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