dvo240 Posted March 29, 2011 Posted March 29, 2011 I need to cut my losses,and gain some space,so the first $3500 cash will take my 1971 240z.It is Left Hand drive,but it can be registered here.It has no motor or gearbox,ideal for a high horsepower transplant,the engine bay is already painted in two pack white,car has very tiny amount of rust.Car is very straight,I have too many projects,and not enough room.Please call me on 0478001286.I am not often on the computer,so emails may be ignored.I am giving this car away at this price. Quote
53-681 Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 Ouch, what a bargain! I'm spewin I purchased my ride before seein this offer Why is is left hand drive bro? US import? Quote
Moderators Zedman240® Posted April 2, 2011 Moderators Posted April 2, 2011 Would like to see it but you're a few thousand kays away! Tis a bargain.. Quote
Sirpent Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 Id have to agree with Dimitri, And just to inspire someone out there, the conversion of the bulkhead from LHD to RHD which is the only structual thing needed here apart from the RHD parts from a doner Zed wouldnt take more than a day to do, thats how simple it is. Cheers John Quote
luvemfast Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 Would like to see it but you're a few thousand kays away! Tis a bargain.. +1 And just to inspire someone out there, the conversion of the bulkhead from LHD to RHD which is the only structual thing needed here apart from the RHD parts from a doner Zed wouldnt take more than a day to do, thats how simple it is. Why not just keep it LHD? Quote
Moderators Zedman240® Posted April 2, 2011 Moderators Posted April 2, 2011 I'd definitely keep it LHD..it's unique down this part of the world.. To convert to RHD, I've seen the work involved; it's very time consuming and the amount of parts you need, you'll need another 240Z so why wreck another complete car to make another? unless it was a wreck then that's different. Quote
gilltech Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 It's not quite that simple to convert the LHD Z to RHD, unfortunately. The firewall, dash, wipers, battery mount, wiring, is different for starters. You'd need bits from a rust-free donor Z to do it properly, or else have to fabricate everything for a reverse-match. It could stay LHD & be registered as such as is over 30 yrs old, all assuming it comes with the import approval. If subsequently converted to RHD then it would surely have to have approval for that somewhere along the line if not for the owner at the time then surely for the next. The chassis number would always be a give-away. The lowest risk option for a purchaser perhaps would be to use the car, or most of it, as a re-body for an existing car that has rust and/or accident damage issues, a race car perhaps. I'm tempted, but I don't have time for the Z I currently own let alone another project. If it's a good sound unrusty car I hope someone snaffles it & puts it to good use, sounds too good to waste! Good luck with the sale, dvo240. Quote
luvemfast Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Gilltech, at least go and have a look at it? Can't be too far from you. Then post some pics with your verdict. Quote
zed74 Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Hi Guys, I looked at it on Sunday. Is a reasonably straight car - no serious crash damage evident lots of work needed - but recoverable if you have the patience :-\ rough assessment from my 10 min inspection new floors required (both sides) both doglegs rotten underside of battery (opposite side to RHD versions) rotten chassis rails very average some rotten sections to inner front guard gusset (chassis rail area adjacent firewall) Front of bonnet damaged rear hatch opening (sill to LHS rotten) Drivers side door (LHS) rotten at base non original steering wheel (looks like 60's morris minor!) other than the dogleg sections - most rust looks untouched - so at least you know what you are in for (minimum coverups) $ - :-\ but it is a fair bit of work to restore good luck Quote
Sirpent Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 It's not quite that simple to convert the LHD Z to RHD, unfortunately. The firewall, dash, wipers, battery mount, wiring, is different for starters. You'd need bits from a rust-free donor Z to do it properly, or else have to fabricate everything for a reverse-match. Gill I beg to differ The Zed firewalls are uniform LHD or RHD, what sets them apart is the reinforcement plate which supports the Master cylinder and steering column, even fabricating this plate wouldn't be that difficult. The wiper mount points for both LHD and RHD exist in the upper plenum, the only internal plenum changes would need to be cutting out a new heater blower intake and plate up the old one and welding a new steering column hanger in the RHD position along with the accelerator stop plate. In the bay you would need to mount a new battery tray and washer bottle mount bracket, seal up the old wire loom entry point and cut a new one on the RHS. As far as I'm aware the chassis numbers are also stamped in a uniform place on the RHS of the wall, the modifications listed above would not interfere with it. And just to inspire someone out there, the conversion of the bulkhead from LHD to RHD which is the only structural thing needed here apart from the RHD parts from a doner Zed wouldn't take more than a day to do, that's how simple it is. I did mention that a doner Z would be required for the cosmetics, but more so what I was eluding to by my post was that taking all of the above into account, which I estimate would be a days work having been a panel beater and accident assessor is that IF this body is as clean and rust free as advertised and someone had their heart set on it but was reluctant due to its LHD nature, that the cost of doing this conversion as opposed to death by a 1000 rust patches as some experience in their restorations, I would take this option. Cheers John Quote
53-681 Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Is it possible to cut it in half, and attach the rear half to my 2+2 so it becomes a 2 Seater? Quote
Sirpent Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Short answer is yes. But I wouldn't attempt it unless it was done on a car bench. The floor pan seam unplucks at the foot of the bulkhead seam around where your heels would be in a seated position, so that's a straight enough process, however you would need to triple box section part of the sill panels, and windscreen pillars at 70mm minimum opposing cuts and have a very capable welder do the work due to the poor makeup of the steel. Cheers John Quote
Moderators Zedman240® Posted April 4, 2011 Moderators Posted April 4, 2011 John, with the wipers, I know the holes are there for where the arm part bolts to (the three holes) but the reinforcing under the panel where the wiper mechanism operates, doesn't accept a RHD wiper assembly; a small section of reinforcement has to be cut away which is a real b#$%h. I've tried it myself on a Californian car. You'd also have to replace complete wiring looms under the dash and the whole front section. I can make a accurate list if needed... Quote
Sirpent Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Dimitri Granted about the wiper mount, it is offset to the RHS, just went and looked at mine, but I'm pretty sure you could do a flat plate adaptor to bolt to it and offset it to the LHS. And yes, loom, dash, wiper motor and arms, steering rack, column, etc would all still have to be sourced, however I would be surprised if these weren't available as second hand spares as opposed to having to cannibalise a complete car for them. Regardless, where there is a will there is a way, once again, my remarks in this thread were aimed at just pointing out an alternative for a buyer who wanted a RHD car. Cheers John Quote
gilltech Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 Yeah John I didn't actually mean replace the whole firewall in itself, (although that is an option were one available), just that it has to be completely re-worked, all the openings & reinforcement plates swapped over or replaced mirror-image; I looked into it in detail some years ago & there is a lot more to it than at initial appearances to do it very well. But I do agree it's entirely do-able! as you say much of the RHD/LHD variation is already built in to the car, which is a big leg-up compared to a car that was only ever factory built LHD to start with. Yes Luvemfast it isn't far from me. But I just don't have the resources in the foreseeable future to tackle another project. Zed74's assessment sounds very thorough & rather typical of these cars unfortunately. Quote
sexual_sushi Posted April 4, 2011 Posted April 4, 2011 There's a thread on hybridz with a guy converting a rhd to left (or possibly the other way around). It looks like it is not THAT simple but definitely doable. Quote
dvo240 Posted April 10, 2011 Author Posted April 10, 2011 Car has been sold,Thanks for looking. Quote
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