thanks for the heads up Mark, I've been looking at my roof and I've been so close t6o taking the skin off just so I can attack the hinge mounting points as their not to crash hot due to a previous owner fiberglassed them, think i'm just going to do it now, and see if there is a way of sorting some sort of drainage system in the problem areas....maybe even similar to the hose setup that's in the z32 300zx targa gutters, seemed to be fine when I stripped the green car for paint....something to think about anyway..