rear hatch seals/snapped bolt problem

[mtopxsecret6]

Hey guys.. i have the rear hatch seals.. i have the inside and outside seals.. can someone tell me where their spose to go? i tried test fitting them this afternoon.. and was even more confused..? its a 26 2+2.. Also.. putting the rear hatch lock on.. i broke a screw inside a thread.. flush with the body.. whats the best way of getting it out? drilling it out? thanks.

[mtopxsecret6]

Ok so i have learnt an easy out tool is the go to get it out.. now to head to the hardware department store and get one. How about the rear rubber seals? Does any body have pictures of how it should look? On my kit it says 240z inner.. and an outer. Im assuming that it will fit the 260, as all of the rubber kit was purchased at the same time, from rare spares, so id assume that it would be a multi fit item between the cars.

[mtopxsecret6]

ok.. the bag says 240/260.. so i would guess it means both cars  .. now.. how does it go on?

[C.A.R.]

Mate... It's not rocket science! 

The large rubber seal pushes on over the lip.

And if you have the thinner one, it gets glued on around the raised section (which is closer to the outside of the car), which I've arrowed.

[C.A.R.]

With regards to your snapped bolt, punch a centre pop mark in the centre of the snapped stud (to make sure the drill doesn't wander offline) then progressively increase the the hole size till you can collapse the old thread - i.e. pick the old thread out with a pointed pick or sharp screwdriver.

You may have to re-tap the thread afterwards to clean it up.

 

'Ezyout's' rarely work - your better off drilling it out.

[mtopxsecret6]

ok.. i'll try those rubber seals now..

[Mickl]

Now I am also working out today which way to glue that outer hatch seal down. I see from the arrowed picture that the photo car does not actually have the outer seal in place so I am wondering from anyone out there which leg of the seal (the two are different lengths) goes on the inside face (the vertical in the pic) and which on the outside (the horizontal one). I am thinking the longer leg goes outside but it will need cutting a bit where it goes over the tops of the hatch hinges maybe?

I am also wondering if the hatch will seat down on the outer rubber across the top or will the presence of the rubber make it sit up a bit proud?

Is that why the outer seal is often not found on old Zeds??

bit fuzzy photo of short length cross section of my as yet to be glued on outer seal

Mickl

[mtopxsecret6]

thats similar to what mine looks like. now you can under stand why it isnt obvious where it just "fits". Specially when you hadnt pulled off the old seal in the first place.

[Mickl]

have you tried to glue it on yet? It is very difficult to get it in place along the sides. I hear sikaflex 227 with prior etching of rubber with a special sika prep liquid is required. I used 252 and it didn`t stick to the rubber but cured on the paint like you won`t believe. nothing gets it off according to the rep except a grinder! Maybe ordinary contact cement will work but its going to be difficult to get it positioned first time whilst the glue is tacky. If I ever get the sikaflex off I will glue the long inside leg first and may put an angle over it with self tappers to hold in place. Then when dry try gluing down the short leg. This particular cross section rubber from Thompsons is not designed for the sides where there is a step. It goes OK across the top but not the top corners. Looks like other Zeds have a different outer rubber cross section which may be easier to apply. I think I also now know why many z`s don`t actually have an outer rubber and rely on the inner only.

Mickl

[Mickl]

hello today mtopxs....

I now recommend you ditch the outer seal completely after what was for me another wasted effort to get it glued up. It is so bulky that the hatch won`t fit in the space and I can`t get close to shutting the hatch. So out with the stanley knife, tore it up and threw it away. Now another big job to clean off the locktite contact adhesive which is very difficult to remove...even lost a bit of 2pack paint here and there ...it sticks on so well. I heard that warren at allzed parts sells a different outer rubber that may be better but I`ve given up and will rely solely on the inner rubber to keep the water out.

Mickl