DSLR Camera's

[PB260Z]

Hi,

 

Not sure how many of you are into photography ? I am a little.

 

Thinking of upgrading my ageing, but brilliant Nikon D70. I mainly use it for family and holiday shots, plus the occasional car shot  - I will be staying with Nikon as my lens etc are Nikon.

 

Thinking the D7000 could be the go.

 

Any thought comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

 

 

Cheers

 

PB

[George]

I've got a camera or two. It's good fun.

 

Which lenses do you own? What's your budget?

 

If family and holiday is >98% of your shooting I would not recommend a heavy DSLR. There are many great cameras in between a DSLR and a point and shoot. That's where I would be looking for a family/holiday cam.

 

If you feel you want to get a bit creative and need the extra features (read: DoF) then a nice camera like the D7000 will keep you happy for a few years.

[PB260Z]

Hi George

 

Budget $1,000 give or take

 

Lens

50mm F1.8

18-300 F3.5 - 5.6 VR

35-70 F3.3 - 4.5

 

And yes think I might start to get a bit creative

 

Cheers

 

PB

 

[George]

Just had a closer look at the D7000. It's a great camera and I'm sure you'll be very happy with it. However, it's not a full frame and if you think you will want to get serious then I couldn't recommend anything but a full frame camera.

 

I'm not sure how much you know about photography so please don't take this the wrong way but you should be looking at the sensor size more than the megapixels. Manufacturers often omit the sensor size where it's on the smaller side and tout the MP like it's the benchmark. I would take a lower MP with a bigger sensor any day of the week. Have a read of this: http://www.gizmag.com/camera-sensor-size-guide/26684/

 

I've just asked a friend what he recommends with your set up so waiting for him to get back to me. I use Canon and I'm not up to date with Nikon gear.

 

Are you after a new camera or would you be willing to go with a slightly used one?

[PB260Z]

Thanks George

 

Will the read the link, I am aware of full frame but thought full frame camera's were rather costly.

Really appreciate the comments

Not ready to buy yet, just researching, but second hand is definitely an option.

 

Cheers

 

Peter

[George]

Pleasure Peter.

 

Friend says to go with a second hand D700 and get used to the full frame. The glass you have is mostly kit stuff and you'll grow out of it pretty quickly. If you really get into photography you will quickly learn the expense is all in the lenses. Good ones cost a lot but they should last you a very long time if you buy quality. You'll generally go through a few bodies with the same lenses. Don't get too hung up on the camera with all it's bells and whistles. At the end of the day it's just a box but a lens is not just a lens.

 

I think you'll quickly outgrow the ones you have but you don't have to rush out and spend a fortune to learn and enjoy photography. Just go one lens at a time.

 

One more thing, cameras have camps just like cars. There's the Ford vs Holden and there's Nikon vs Canon. Don't listen to fanboy crazy talk. They're both great and at the end of the day it's the user that has the vision and takes the great photo, not the camera. Seems like you've chosen the Nikon camp anyway but it's never too late to switch. Do your research and decide before you sink some real cash into glass. Canon is worth having a look at.

[PB260Z]

Cool, will read up on the D700.

Yes current gear is not ideal for anything really special, if I end up getting right into it will end up with mostly prime lens and all of good quality.

 

Nikon or Canon I have mates on both sides of that one, and it is indeed simiar to the Holden v Ford arguement.

 

Thanks again - time for some more reading 

[fly-s30]

Howdy!

Have you found the camera your after?

What George has been saying is absolutely correct about good glass, as you generally take them with you from body to body, but not the other way around.

If you invest in quality lenses, the quality you can extract from them is FAR superior to the kit lens that generally tend to have the most versatility for broad applications.

Have you looked into the compact ranges of cameras?

In terms of cost, versatility, portability and range of lenses these compact systems are leading the field, and i believe the future is written in stone for the novice to semi pro level of cameras in the not to distant future. I have 2 Sony alphas in crop sensor size that i used to use until i bought my Olympus E-M5, and the size comparative is huge, and the image quality from the smaller sensor (Olympus 16mp) is comparative to that of the older crop sensors is using equivalent lenses.

You now have a very broad choice of cameras and their associated gear.

 

Best of luck.

Darius

[PB260Z]

Howdy!

Have you found the camera your after?

What George has been saying is absolutely correct about good glass, as you generally take them with you from body to body, but not the other way around.

If you invest in quality lenses, the quality you can extract from them is FAR superior to the kit lens that generally tend to have the most versatility for broad applications.

Have you looked into the compact ranges of cameras?

In terms of cost, versatility, portability and range of lenses these compact systems are leading the field, and i believe the future is written in stone for the novice to semi pro level of cameras in the not to distant future. I have 2 Sony alphas in crop sensor size that i used to use until i bought my Olympus E-M5, and the size comparative is huge, and the image quality from the smaller sensor (Olympus 16mp) is comparative to that of the older crop sensors is using equivalent lenses.

You now have a very broad choice of cameras and their associated gear.

 

Best of luck.

Darius

 

Hi Darius

 

Thanks for your comments, the more I read the more I realise how little I know 

 

I have not made a concrete decission as yet. Having said that I am 99% certain that I will stay with Nikon.

Definately will be going full frame format (thanks George)

 

Currently considering D610 or D700 but in no major hurry. I am very aware that once I get a full frame camera I am going to want to buy some nice prime lens and that could cost plenty.

 

The missus is currently between jobs (retrenched but with a nice payout) but until she back in the workforce I am trying to resist the urge to spend too much $$ on toys etc.

 

So for now I am in a bit of a holding pattern.

 

Cheers

 

Peter

[fly-s30]

Good move and congrats on the decision, the D610 has no "oil on the sensor" issue that the D600 had, and should be a sound unit for years to come. Do keep in mind that with nikon and maybe canon (check first) the full frame FX lenses are down compatible to the crop sensor bodies and it also has a crop factor that it will inherintly do with  that lens. What that means, is that a regular FF 50mm lens will act as 75mm lens because of the 3/4 frame on the crop sensor, without doing anything! but that focal crop factor is fixed and can t be changed.

 

Good on you

Darius

[PB260Z]

Good move and congrats on the decision, the D610 has no "oil on the sensor" issue that the D600 had, and should be a sound unit for years to come. Do keep in mind that with nikon and maybe canon (check first) the full frame FX lenses are down compatible to the crop sensor bodies and it also has a crop factor that it will inherintly do with  that lens. What that means, is that a regular FF 50mm lens will act as 75mm lens because of the 3/4 frame on the crop sensor, without doing anything! but that focal crop factor is fixed and can t be changed.

 

Good on you

Darius

 

Thanks Darius

 

A couple of people have mentioned the "oil on sensor" drama with the D600 sounds like a nightmare for Nikon.

Will let you know when I have been shopping 

[Stivva]

I wouldn't go to the D700, if you were considering a full frame stretch to the D800 otherwise go a cropped D7000 and spend the extra cash on glass. the cropped sensor in the D7000 is better than the full frame D700 and the video capabilities and HI ISO is better on the D7000.

You also already own only DX lenses which mean the full frame will be only good to you in cropped mode or with severe vignetting on the photos in full frame mode and FX lenses cost a packet. A D800 would be the key investment to future proof yourself and shoot in crop mode until you can afford a selection of FX lenses, but a D7000 is compatible with you current lenses and would still give you some money to buy some better glass, unless you put your money to a D7100 (which I wouldn't do).

 

I have had a D3s (full frame), D90 and D7000 (both cropped)

35mm DX 1.8

50mm DX 1.8

18-105 DX 3.5-5.6 (kit lens)

10-20 DX 3.5

70-200 FX 2.8

 

Best piece of advice, spend money on the glass and not the camera.

 

 

[PB260Z]

Hi Stivva

 

So the way I see it I need to decide if I am going to get really serious and:

If I am, go for the D800 and accept the higher costs of lens.

If not, get a D7000 and use the saved cash to go towards good prime lens.

 

Hmmmm, decisions decisions.

 

I really appreciate your input.

 

Time for some more thinking.

 

Cheers

 

Peter

 

 

[420BRB]

I have a D7000

 

very solid camera with everything you need for beginner- semi pro photography. you will not be dissapointed

 

but it all comes down to the glass!

 

Goodluck with it