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Cars a long way from paint yet, still have to decide on an engine. The V8 idea is out the window.

Probably go RB but I have to install and engineer, finish the shell decide on a color, body work, the list gos on

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What sort of price are they asking though?

 

Found this on the Hartly V8

H1 V8 pricing

2.8 liter V8, approximately 400 hp.  Engine is inclusive of hardware as described below.... $27,700

 

·        6061-T6 Billet crankcase, sump, front cover and rear cover

·        Reconditioned Suzuki parts- heads, cylinders and throttle bodies.    Heads are reconditioned with ground valves and seat, and new seals.  Cylinders are bored to 84mm and NSC plated.

·        Billet crankshaft- 63mm stroke

·        Engine mounted sensors

·        H-beam 4340 billet connecting rods with ARP custom age bolts

·        Starter and 55amp mini alternator

·        4 stage Pace or Aviaid dry sump 0il pump

·        Small flywheel for 5.5” clutch or large flywheel for 7.25” clutch

·        Custom rear engine adapter plate for popular gearboxes

·        40mm billet velocity stacks and adapter seals

·        Test run engine

·        Installation Manual* Technical support as required for successful installation and operation

·        Box and skid as required for shipping

 

Popular options for H1V8 (other options are available)....

 

Ø      67mm stroke crankshaft upgrade 3.0 liter version of engine and related modifications to deck height and cam chains...$1,200

Ø    DTA engine management system with software and connector kit…$1,800

Ø    Programming of screens and integration of X-Dash unit …$150

Ø    Performance modifications (cams and CNC ported heads) …POR

 

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I'm open to options, has to be very very reliable and about 350-400hp @ flywheel (power spread through rev range, I don't want 400hp at 9000rpm and nothing at 3000rpm)

 

Standard 2400cc L6 is out because of reliability at power level Im after (And I don't own one)

I own a Lexus V8 (4000cc) but It's out because It would need forced induction for the power and that makes it too big for the rules

 

RB25det is right size, power and would still be reliable

 

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You can get 350-400 flywheel HP from L6 in NA form and reliable too. Take 30% losses so that is 245HP to 280HP at the wheels. There are number of engines I have seen, owned, that make this HP at the wheels from L6 in NA form, some EFI throttle bodies, other on carbs. One engine I know is 4 race season old with no issues.

 

I am sure Pete Mc can assist with your power goals from any engine of your choice. I thought others on this had done the numbers on the new rules and a 3.2 super charged engine just fits - so then a 3.0 turbo should fit too?

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Finding info on allowed engine conversion's is next to impossible, when I'm ready I'll let the engineer answer the questions.

 

Not interested in the L6, I want to drive the thing not work on it ;)

 

More pic's. Still in the trial fit and test phase

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Using panels off other cars is always very handy to check measurements. Just in case mines not 100%

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Awsome job on the build mate, i should have done that to begin with myself, but 5 years to build it was enough without adding another 2 for panel. In regards to an engineers, i have been talking to a few different ones. I went down the RB25turbo route, With an RB30 bottom end with very similar numbers in the garage. Its worth talking to a few different engineers, they all have different interpretations of the rules. As of the 1st of February this year you even need an engineers for club rego. >:(

 

VIC roads is closing all the holes, but gives you some outs. http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/CC48FC10-4D57-4F04-82E1-3BD72EF88340/0/VSI8.pdf

As far as i can tell you just need an engineers to prove the car is safe for a "Street Rod"  http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/PermitsModificationsAndDefects/OtherPermits/ClubPermits.htm

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So.... any updates on this build? Just went through all your photos which was helpful in terms of seeing how everything is welded together on an S30z and couldn't resist bumping this up for people who may not have seen it.

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Well I've moved house and have no room to work on the car ATM, Well heaps of room but no shed.

Looked at an RB26 a while back, parts alone was worth it but engine could not be tested, not sure on previous

history either.

 

S30 shell is back together so a few more pic than is on here but not many

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Thanks for the update, looks like your car is HS30 00347.

 

If you haven't seen this thread or been on the site in a while:

http://www.viczcar.com/forum/topic/13773-early-girl-bingo-with-photos/page-1

 

You might find it insightful.

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