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On 9/1/2020 at 5:09 PM, gilltech said:

Only 21 Datsuns of any sort or model on carsales.com.au currently, just 8 of them being S30s split 50:50 into 2-seaters and 2+2s.

One would think that with numerous sectors of the economy in strife, thanks to the pandemic, that more cars would have already emerged for a fire sale, but not as yet anyway.

I was thinking the same thing @gilltech however the opposite has happened.  People have taken a "you only live once" attitude since the pandemic and classic car sale values have increased since the first lockdown according to auction houses.

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9 hours ago, stupidfish said:

What do you guys reckon about this Edward Lees?
$58.9k 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlGXJcUAd20&feature=youtu.be

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That’s a tidy looking car surprisingly priced for that vendor. But and it’s Mr Lees so be carful. 
Love the comment “let the nerds de code that”. Wonder who that’s aimed at? 

Jeff

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I was thinking the same thing @gilltech however the opposite has happened.  People have taken a "you only live once" attitude since the pandemic and classic car sale values have increased since the first lockdown according to auction houses.

Yes so it would seem. Interesting isn't it, I can concur with that tendency to hang on to what one has having bought it with one's hard-earned and would only part with were it absolutely necessary to stave off starvation or whatever. ;D

So far it completely flies in the face and opinions of that troll 'Hayden' on this forum recently telling us that classic car and particularly Zed asking prices are due to plummet anytime soon so he can pounce. Whereas what I've seen this year is a steady increase in asking prices for tidy cars particularly for the 2+2 versions.

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4 minutes ago, gilltech said:

Yes so it would seem. Interesting isn't it, I can concur with that tendency to hang on to what one has having bought it with one's hard-earned and would only part with were it absolutely necessary to stave off starvation or whatever. ;D

So far it completely flies in the face and opinions of that troll 'Hayden' on this forum recently telling us that classic car and particularly Zed asking prices are due to plummet anytime soon so he can pounce. Whereas what I've seen this year is a steady increase in asking prices for tidy cars particularly for the 2+2 versions.

Time will tell.  Whilst governments keep pumping money into world economies, there will be buoyant times ahead.  You know, public money finds its way up the pyramid to wealthier individuals with lots of disposable income. Holiday homes, classics cars, bikes, art, wine, boats, ... are all on the play list with interest rates so low. At some time, the cash flow has to stop and the band wont play if no one is paying ... 

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It looks very nice. But sixty grand? I know these car prices have skyrocketed, but, personally, if I had the money for that, I'd have a Cayman s  in the driveway and pocket the spare ten grand. But this is a Datsun/ Nissan forum, so am probably alone in that regard.

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1 hour ago, ptZcar said:

Time will tell.  Whilst governments keep pumping money into world economies, there will be buoyant times ahead.  You know, public money finds its way up the pyramid to wealthier individuals with lots of disposable income. Holiday homes, classics cars, bikes, art, wine, boats, ... are all on the play list with interest rates so low. At some time, the cash flow has to stop and the band wont play if no one is paying ... 

My favorite quote of the moment is that "there is nothing more permanent than a temporary Government program." I suspect the subsidies will continue indefinitely because of the calamity of unwinding them at this stage will cost far more than the stimulus packages.

You also have to remember the early access to Super $20k, I suspect that money was pumped into some cars. Especially GTRs! It seems they are selling like hot cakes right now. R34 GTRs are $150k+ which I feel is madness..

But sadly you're correct the money seems to trickle up, not down.

2 of my favorite films on Economics and the GFC are Margin Call and The Big Short...

 

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A cayman S ? If I had the money for that I'd have a new Hilux in the driveway.....

Actually, if I had the money for that I'd get a proper driveway first so I don't need to tow the race car out when it  rains.

Edited by 1600dave

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1 hour ago, Bird said:

It looks very nice. But sixty grand? I know these car prices have skyrocketed, but, personally, if I had the money for that, I'd have a Cayman s  in the driveway and pocket the spare ten grand. But this is a Datsun/ Nissan forum, so am probably alone in that regard.

Same thing when you look at the R34 GTR market vs the R35 GTRs. You can get an almost new R35 GTR with 20,000 km's on it for around $100k. The R34 GTRs however cost $150-$200k at the moment.

However I think there is total cost of ownership vs depreciation / appreciation cycles. The R35's must cost a fortune to service. R34 GTR's on the other hand if you're handy with spanners can still work on without specialist equipment.

Then of course there is FOMO and irrational exuberance around the R34s.. "All the Merican's are gonna buy them! "

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Yes, Gav, exactly. If I had to get the spanners out on a classic Z as opposed to something from Germany, I know which one I'd rather gravitate to. 

Well, that brings me to another point. The 280z is (and I am completely ignorant of all the variations between the models) a better built car than its younger cousin, but doesn't elicit the same passions. Apart from Japan not releasing the 280 over here which would have something to do with it, but even over in the US, they don't treat the 280z with the quite the same awe, or, at least, it doesn't appear to be that way. Having said all that, I am in negotiation with importing either a 240z or a 280z, but rather than hijack this post, should start my own post.

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On 9/3/2020 at 11:28 AM, gav240z said:

My favorite quote of the moment is that "there is nothing more permanent than a temporary Government program." I suspect the subsidies will continue indefinitely because of the calamity of unwinding them at this stage will cost far more than the stimulus packages.

You also have to remember the early access to Super $20k, I suspect that money was pumped into some cars. Especially GTRs! It seems they are selling like hot cakes right now. R34 GTRs are $150k+ which I feel is madness..

But sadly you're correct the money seems to trickle up, not down.

2 of my favorite films on Economics and the GFC are Margin Call and The Big Short...

Well said and couldn't agree more with those brilliant films.  The Big Short was a game changer for me but neither are a patch on the greatest story of all time, SCARFACE.  I especially love the bit where Tony Montana says, "Say hello to my 240Z." 

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On 9/1/2020 at 6:12 AM, gav240z said:

Jump on Goo Net and have a look at what Fairlady Z's sell for in Japan. Price isn't far off.

In fact as much as I don't love the bloke who imported it (current seller has nothing to do with old mate), I think if the body is solid and given price appreciation of these esp. in Japan it's probably under priced.

Examples..

https://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/NISSAN/FAIRLADY_Z/700100266930190622001/index.html

https://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/NISSAN/FAIRLADY_Z/700100266930200723001/index.html

Those are kind of starting points for an ok 2 seater 74+ model in Japan.

This 1 is probably a cut above, but modified with RB engine swap.

https://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/NISSAN/FAIRLADY_Z/700020034830170127001/index.html

Asking approx. $140k AUD

I keep saying we undervalue them in our market...this is 1 reason why. RHD examples are far less common in a global context.

I got the auction sheet from JOC, the car definitely isn't as nice as it appears in photos/ the advert and mileage is not original (which was expected I guess) 

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I find that Auction sheets for such old cars are a bit of a moot point really. I've seen some nice cars marked as Grade R either because of extensive modifications like roll cages etc.. or just because they have history by now. Plus the mileage is hard to verify given how old they are, and how few digits are on odometers originally so they can roll over.

Best to inspect in person to see the car for what it is, and evaluate it from there. Finding history on the Japanese imports is quite difficult. At least with a local example you can sometimes see it's history or contact previous owners to know a bit more about them.

In my humble opinion the best car on CarSales right now, value for money wise. Is this car.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1972-datsun-240z-manual/SSE-AD-6753970/?Cr=3

It was used as a track car, so it's not perfect, but it was also mechanically looked after by Stewart Wilkins and I've seen the car in person and it's a good car. Vince is an honest guy too. I bought #51 off him! :D

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On 8/31/2020 at 11:00 PM, stupidfish said:

Man, 80k is steeeep. What do you guys reckon

Not at all. I paid 60k a year ago and that looks pretty tidy. Mine is completely stock but straight. 
I’d say that’s had a fair bit spent and the price isn’t bad.

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1 hour ago, gav240z said:

I find that Auction sheets for such old cars are a bit of a moot point really. I've seen some nice cars marked as Grade R either because of extensive modifications like roll cages etc.. or just because they have history by now. Plus the mileage is hard to verify given how old they are, and how few digits are on odometers originally so they can roll over.

Best to inspect in person to see the car for what it is, and evaluate it from there. Finding history on the Japanese imports is quite difficult. At least with a local example you can sometimes see it's history or contact previous owners to know a bit more about them.

In my humble opinion the best car on CarSales right now, value for money wise. Is this car.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1972-datsun-240z-manual/SSE-AD-6753970/?Cr=3

It was used as a track car, so it's not perfect, but it was also mechanically looked after by Stewart Wilkins and I've seen the car in person and it's a good car. Vince is an honest guy too. I bought #51 off him! :D

It wasn't the grade that put me off,it was the apparent heavy corrosion, dents, and "support repair distortion”, no photos though of it so really not meaningful without an in person inspection which I can't with border closures and all. 

I agree, that's the best Z on carsales by a mile! Might just reach out, i need to ponder this

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On 9/2/2020 at 9:38 PM, stupidfish said:

What do you guys reckon about this Edward Lees?
$58.9k 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlGXJcUAd20&feature=youtu.be

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Wasn't that Edward lees one going for about 46k - 48k  4 months back?
Everyone has their set price on how much these Zeds are worth,  makes me wonder about that artist Banksy, and how he and others portray what his art is worth.
I really hope the support for the 240z and 260z parts picks up in the future. I want to be able to drive one rather then leave it sitting around looking for spares to find. Price is definitely a factor, but these cars are unique and very rare.
I also agree with Gav, I feel the yellow Z for 55k would be a better buy and looks well modified.

Edited by DattoZ
extended thoughts half asleep.

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On 9/2/2020 at 7:38 PM, stupidfish said:

What do you guys reckon about this Edward Lees?
$58.9k 

Probably better to go for this one at $43,000 ?

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/chermside/cars-vans-utes/1973-datsun-240z-sports-5-speed-manual-coupe/1256153334

`````` DATSUN 240Z COUPE 5 SPEED MANUAL MATCHING NUMBERS ENGINE VERY ORIGINAL. ``````

VIN HS30103611


9/1973, Datsun 240z Coupe, 5 Speed Manual Transmission, Matching Numbers Original 2.4 Engine, Original Hitachi Twin Carburetors, Factory Air Box. This Datsun Has Had Very Little Use For Many Years And Still Retains Many Of The Original Features, Starts Easily, Runs And Drives, Suit Restoration Or Drive As Is.

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Edited by AndBir
Added VIN#

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I recently missed out on a rust free Z for $55k. I doubt an opportunity like that will present itself again

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