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Hi peoples

 

My name is Paul

 

So i dun did a thing and got myself a '77 260Z, well most of a 260Z, pretty sure i got all the bits, most of the bits........

 

I have been a lurker on this for a while now, thought i would reserve my first post for when i had a car. I have been looking for one for a while now but figured i wouldn't be able to afford a nice one (at least all in one go to buy one) so i decided to go with a project in progress. under no illusions that restoring a car is a cheap endeavor. 

 

The dream is to restore the car back to its former self with a few little mods here and there like suspension, brakes ect.

 

The shell looks like its in pretty good shape with a few little issues here and there. looks like the battery tray has had a bit of a hack job done to it and the outside of the shell is in black etch primer with some dents ripples and a few rust holes. The rotisserie came with the car

 

I'm thinking the first step will be to get the car media blasted and put in epoxy primer for the beginning of the bodywork, I have lots to learn never taken on a project at this scale before but i would like to do as much as i can myself.i have a few mate with a bit of experience with restorations like this so lots of support. 

 

Anyway enjoy the photos, thoughts suggestions and constructive criticism very welcome, will update at i progress

 

 

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Have fun peoples 

 

 

Paul

 

 

 

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All typical rust spots really.. battery box is probably the worst section. Rear hatch slam panel should be easy fix (most of it still exists!) unlike mine. Shame about ding in rear 1/4 but with a good panel beater should be able to massage it out with minimal filler.

 

Dog leg section isn't too bad, seen far worse. 

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Paul.

 

Having undertaken a rebuild in a single car garage the first thing I would suggest is a modification to the rotisserie mounting brackets. With the car held at 900 it creates more working space. You should make the axis of rotation 75mm above the bumper bar mounting points as this will allow one-person, single-hand rotation. You may find with your rotisserie you will then need to extend the vertical posts of the rotisserie (est. 20-30 cm) to ensure the body clears the ground.

 

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Hi

 

@ Gav yeah the battery area is the worst spot looks like someone had a go at ti in the past and did a pretty average job, but will be able to sort it out. Yeah the ding on the rear quarter is a bit of a nasty one but should be able to beat it out as you say will be aiming for minimal filler.

 

@ peter Unfortunately thats not my garage (its living at the in laws at the moment) im building one in the back yard at the moment to house the car. it will be a little wider but not much. and yes i have had the same thoughts about the rotisserie at the moment you cant rotate it all the way around and its a two person job. if you stuffed up the roof would hit the ground, very not ideal. will sort this out once i get things settled in its new home.

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So first update time, 260Z new home

 

So with house hunting still ongoing the Z needs a temporary yet sturdy home, im fortunate enough to be able to build what i like in the backyard (inlaws are the landlords) so here is the build.

 

Simple frame almost completely salvaged materials, paved floor (didnt want to poor concrete) mezzanine shelf for additional storage of parts. Little bit of arranging some space and it will be ready to have the shell move in.  

 

I have also begun to inventory all the parts i have (see next post)

 

Have fun and drive safe.

 

Paul

 

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So with the shed 98% complete and while the weather was too hot to work i thought i would go ahead and to a full inventor and repacking of all the parts i have for the car. i also thought i would take some photos of the process. 

 

The photos show all the parts i recieved with the car (well almost all i still have a few more photos to go shell, doors, bonnet, boot lid, engine gearbox diff ect)

 

 there are a few parts i have no idea what they are yet but that just adds to the fun. There are some parts missing, all of the RHS door parts are MIA. 

 

O and a late model toyota camry rear bumper support got in the photos ...... dont ask...... (can you spot it :P )

 

so for your viewing pleasure ....

 

Have fun 

 

Paul

 

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Well done on the garage build - very innovative.

 

I notice that you seem to have 240Z front turn signal assemblies.

The front turn signals for a 260Z (all 260Z's I think) have a part clear (parking light) and part amber (turn signal) lens and use two separate bulbs.

The turn signal wiring harnesses therefore have 3 wires and use a 3-pin (2-pin for 240Z) connectors.

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The front turn signals for a 260Z (all 260Z's I think) have a part clear (parking light) and part amber (turn signal) lens and use two separate bulbs.

But 260Zs in some markets have the full orange lens - correct me if I'm wrong but I think JDM cars, and also USA cars, have orange, or at least some years do.

 

Not sure what happens when the front blinker unit is mounted up on the bumper like with UK cars - is that unit a front marker lamp as well? as the corner valance unit is deleted.

 

NZ and Australia 260Zs have the clear lens, with an orange panel set in behind to one sector, two separate bulbs as you say.

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But 260Zs in some markets have the full orange lens - correct me if I'm wrong but I think JDM cars, and also USA cars, have orange, or at least some years do.

 

Not sure what happens when the front blinker unit is mounted up on the bumper like with UK cars - is the lower housing then clear with single bulb? I'll have to study some photos.

 

NZ and Australia 260Zs have the clear lens, with an orange panel set in behind to one half.

 

I was  referring to the Australian market.

 

Australian delivered 1970 - 1972 240Z's were fitted with clear lenses and single, dual filament parking/blinker bulbs.

 

The ADR's require all cars from 1 January 1973 onwards to have amber front turn signals - which is why the European style bumper mounted amber turn signals were used on our 1973 240Z's. 

My late '73 240Z has the front blinkers on top of the bumper and the lower housings have clear lenses with single bulbs for the the parking lights.

 

The reason I pointed this matter out is that, as it stands, Paul's car may not have front parking lights. This could be addressed by using headlights with parking light sockets built in.

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@GongZ Thanks, i had to think long and hard how i was going to maximise space in the garage to fit everything in comfortably and the shelf worked out well. thing is we are still looking at buying a house so i don't want to put too much effort in that i cant take with me.

 

Indeed the turn signals are all orange, have no idea as to the reason may have been replaced at some stage or maybe the car was an import, dont know how i would find out.

 

All the lights i have are in the photos above i have noticed the pic of all the wiring looms is not there I will add that, this is what you get when you buy a car in boxes :P

 

i have a front splitter that incorporates light and a rear wing that came with the car, that may go some way to explain things? im not going to use the splitter and wing im not a fan of the look. 

 

i am also missing the RHS door hinges, all off the chrome for that door and all of the internal parts locks window mechanism ect, fortunately i do have the glass. 

 

but otherwise for a disassembled vehicle i dont think im doing too badly, o and keys no keys :P

 

 

Thanks for the interest

 

Paul 

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So with the completion of the shed and some modifications to the rotisserie, my car is finally home. it has been living in the inlaws garage which is so close i decided to put some fat tires on the rotisserie and just roll it round the corner. Plus it needed to go across the grass in the backyard. Enjoy the over engineering and thanks to my old man and brother for the push. now to begin the body repairs :)

 

Paul 

 

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Well with the car safely tucked away in its new home work can begin. i have decided to fully strip all of the sound deadening and underbody coating off and look for any hidden rust in the process. i have so far found the beginnings of some corrosion here and there but nothing major so far. ....... it such a horrible job...... but its coming along just getting a bit done each night after work. The plan is to then address the panel and metal work, and get the thing fulley striped to bare metal and get it into some epoxy primer. 

 

enjoy the photos 

 

 

Paul

 

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So a month of sundays latter the car is all clean. i have taken the time to remove all of the under body coating as well as the sound deadener and all the seam sealer (well all the seam sealer i can get to) 

 

I'm happy that there are not too many areas of concern that have arisen. The worst new area i have found seems to be the rear quarter panel around the fuel filler. i will probably need to remove it to fix it. i also have a timelapse of the whole process might edit it and upload some time.

 

Enjoy the photos below.

 

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O and the car got 3c cheaper

 

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Im also looking for some advice i have begun exploring some of the areas of rust in my car. i have decided to begin with fixing the firewall because that should be easy ....... mmm .... turns out its a bit more complex that it looks 

 

this is what it looked like before i began cutting 

 

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i began but cutting away the affected area and have found that the panel under the dash intersects the fire wall in this location. 

 

i have found that there is some rust/beginnings of rust along the inside of this seam and it looks like it is along a large length of this seam.

 

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i have cut some distance down the seam but i have stopped in order to have a bit more of a think.

 

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i have been considering my options.

 

1) Nuclear option... cut all the way along the fire wall clean and replace. not something i particularly want to do,

 

2) some how chemically treat the seam without cutting more 

 

3) combination of options 1 and 2.

 

4) plug my ears start humming and ignore it weld in patch move on.

 

5) something else...........

 

Thoughts advice suggestions most welcome 

 

Paul

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Hi Paul

Your car looks pretty clean. Unfortunately I can’t give you any advice but am interested in hearing others.

 

I am also interested in your method of “but cutting”

You must be a contortionist Mate ????

 

Keep up the good work

Mick

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Tried my hand for the first time at some panel beating while i have a think how im going to tackle the rist along the seam in the firewall. when i purchased the car the was a pretty nasty dent in the passenger side rear quarter panel so i figured i would start there seeing as there was good access to the back of the panel. 

 

I started by pushing out as much as i could with my foot from the inside of the car then slowly massaged the rest with a hammer and dolly. i had some trouble with some oil canning, but was able to get it all tight again with some heat shrinking using a LPG blowtorch. Im very happy with how the panel came out should only take a minimal amount of filler to get it perfect. 

 

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Hi indeed it is, 260z built 5/77. I perchased it dissasembaled and in the condition you see it in the photos. I have found my car has more similarities to a US delivered 280z than the even slightly earlyer 260z's. An example of this is the doors, my car has different door latches and window regulators than even the 1976 model. Made finding those parts, as i was missing all the drivers side internal door parts, a bit of a challenge. I have a feeling that where were not too many 260z two seaters built after mine. Would love to find out more about that.

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As you've probably read, the "coffee table" books tell us that around 80 1977 plated 260s made it to Aust. You can check the Waz register to see where your 5/77 sits.

Enjoying your progress and love the 4wd rotisserie !

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It's coming on well, keep up the good work.

Yes the doors and mechanisms changed in late '76. But your car has more commonality with the 2+2 than the earlier cars did.

At least with a '77 you can source things like door cards from the USA; no joy as yet for the earlier cars.

And my early '74 is worse still, being what I can only describe as a hybrid between the last of the 240Zs and the late-74-on cars, different again.

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