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Not an S30z, a Mazda Cosmo.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252007034619

 

But worth watching all the same in my opinion...

 

US $169,500.00 buy it now price.

 

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I believe this car is less than perfect, hence lower asking price than some other examples that sold recently.

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This isn't an S30 either - but I remember when they were new  :o and they still look gorgeous. Like the Z, their design has stood up to the test of time better than most others.

 

"...car is in shipment to Germany currently !

Restoration - Project

Nissan Silvia CSP 311

absolute rare Japanese car

only 554  hase been produced  ( handmade ) from 1965-1968

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the car is nearly complete

missing parts : hubcaps

fender banches**  ( Nissan Silvia )

seats are non original ( Datsun 240 Z  )

headlights - bezel"

 

** "fender banches" must mean fender badges.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Datsun-Coupe-Silvia-CSP311-/201387784323?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2ee3a5b883

eBay item number:201387784323

 

The (buy it now) price is £19,600.00 (currently = AU$41,575)

 

There was a metallic green Silvia like the second photo that I saw numerous times in the late 60's in Melbourne.

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UK 240z for sale.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/datsun/240z/datsun-240z-1973/4322674

£39,995 or approx $84,000 AUD at current exchange rate.

 

Pretty sure it's the same 240z as featured in this buyers guide.

 

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Special Features:

  Rebuilt gearbox with new 240z internals

  New uprated suspension including poly-bushes and fast road springs and dampers (Tokico).

  New LSD rear differential

  4 Pot Brake Calipers to front

  Compomotive ‘Minilite’ Wheels

  Period Janspeed Exhaust and Manifold

  Mildly uprated Cam

  K&N Twin Air Filters

  Electronic Ignition

  High Power Coil

 

Provenance:

This 1973 original UK supplied RHD Datsun 240Z is one of the finest available. Subject to a full bare-shell restoration by the UK’s leading Z specialist it was restored to factory specification both inside and out and features a complete engine rebuild to fast road specification – circa 170bhp.

Since its rebuild this 240z has been maintained regardless of cost and has been subject to desirable but sympathetic upgrades which enhance its performance and drive-ability.

Please note that the mileage stated is since the car was fully restored and has no reflection of the car's mileage before this point.

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Gee its tidy. The corner valances are different to our 240z models with the indent and I'm not overly sure if the U.S. Style front bar.

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http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/detail/motors/classic-cars/datsun/240z/132186

 

This one is asking £40k, the car sales person said this car was own by some famous racer and with a highly modified engine.

 

Have you all wonder... If ever one day china opens up to classic cars.. What will happen?

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Yeah I have wondered I imagine it will be a market of crazy speculation like their stock market, property market etc...

 

Some people will make a lot of money selling less than great cars to ignorant Chinese investors... Are you paying attention Phil Lee?

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Hahaha Who is phil lee?

Anyway cars cant really compare to stocks and real estate i think. Stocks are unlimited so does real estate.

Population growing year by year, classic cars are limited. Unless the car brand rebuild the  same model, i dont think the price will have a sharp fall. Worst case scenario everyone sells at the same time. It could fall, but the again its so limited to begin with.

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That orange 240z was an Australian delivered car sold here not long ago.

 

Yes you are right. They imported 2. Fourways engineering uk. Saw it on their facebook page.

 

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Lets see how long would it take to sell at that price..

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I must have missed this 1.

 

Priced at 11.5m JPY (~$96k USD today). or around $125k AUD at today's price.

 

http://bringatrailer.com/2015/04/22/rare-homologation-aero-nose-1972-nissan-fairlady-zg/

 

Funny comments on that page, some people 'don't get it', but I do...

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Video here:

 

Actual listing here:

http://enthuno-mori.com/nissan/20140803nissan/

 

 

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Hahaha Who is phil lee?

 

Phil Lee is Edward Lee's dealership here in Parramatta Road Sydney, him and his ilk should be avoided at all costs...

http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/topic,15615.0.html

http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php?topic=5171.0

 

http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/topic,5171.msg43523.html#msg43523

My dad was a Nissan dealer many years ago and mum and dad drove me home from hosptital in an identical orange 240Z in 1971... Apparently they tossed me on the back shelf in a basket and I ended up in the footwell when dad hit the brakes....it must have effected me!

 

Well it certainly did affect him ;).

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Does the banks provides any loans for classic cars?

In Malaysia any car above 10years loans applications are rejected.

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Does the banks provides any loans for classic cars?

In Malaysia any car above 10years loans applications are rejected.

 

It's all relative to how much collateral you can put up and if they think it will be paid back, your credit record etc.. Of course size of loan is also a factor, I guess it depends totally on the type of loan you're looking to buy a car with. It might not classify as an 'investment'.

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It's all relative to how much collateral you can put up and if they think it will be paid back, your credit record etc.. Of course size of loan is also a factor, I guess it depends totally on the type of loan you're looking to buy a car with. It might not classify as an 'investment'.

 

Then it is abit dangerous i think. it could burst like the us sub prime bubble. But as long as AU banks are strict in credit checking i think it should still be fine.

Malaysian has to pay cash for classic cars, i guess is because there is no benchmark for a classic car valuation.

Many insurance companies doesn't even provide coverage.

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Does the banks provides any loans for classic cars?

In Malaysia any car above 10years loans applications are rejected.

 

Gidday,

 

A rather complicated question but in summary.

 

Chattel Mortgages over older cars are very hard to get set, due to high risk over the condition of the vehicle, this should not be the case with Classic Cars but automotive finance companies generally just see cars as New, Demonstrator or Used.

 

General personal finance (often used for car purchases) is approved based on a range of pcriteria including financial capacity and credit history. Once approved you can use the money for just about any, legal, purpose.

 

Cheers

 

Pb

 

 

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Then it is abit dangerous i think. it could burst like the us sub prime bubble. But as long as AU banks are strict in credit checking i think it should still be fine.

Malaysian has to pay cash for classic cars, i guess is because there is no benchmark for a classic car valuation.

Many insurance companies doesn't even provide coverage.

 

Slightly off topic, but I work in banking and can't help myself  :)

 

Lending is a bit different in Australia to the USA - the USA sub prime issue was because the loan agreements were "limited recourse" meaning that if the bank couldn't recover all their money by selling the house, it was the bank's problem.  This meant that when property prices tanked in the USA people with mortgages that were now much much higher than the value of their houses were walking into the bank with their house keys and saying "it's your problem now" and the banks could do nothing about it if they didn't get all their money back.

 

Australian loans are "full recourse".  If the bank has to sell your house and can't recover the full amount of the loan outstanding, you still owe the bank the balance and could go through legal processes and end up bankrupt if you can't pay back the residual balance.  So there is no option for a borrower in Australia to just walk away from a loan by handing in the mortgaged item.

 

That said PB's point is exactly right - Australian banks would be very reluctant to offer a "secured" personal loan where the security is a classic car.  Most personal loans that are issued by the banks are unsecured and the credit assessment is based purely on your ability to repay the loan.  The bulk of secured car finance in Australia is the dealer aligned finance on brand new cars, and structurally with those deals you are generally entering into a finance lease as opposed to a "loan" (although they're essentially the same thing).

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Here's a laugh - this US car has a "factory sunroof";

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161767526442?forcerRptr=true&item=161767526442&viewitem=

 

Rare Clean and solid 1973 Datsun 240 Z with factory sunroof runs and drives great.  Kept in the garage all four seasons.  Registered and has a clear title. Very unique classic sports car!

 

Well I suppose the sunroof was made in a factory somewhere.  ;)

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Here's a laugh - this US car has a "factory sunroof";

Well I suppose the sunroof was made in a factory somewhere.  ;)

 

Ughhh it's painful to see the same non-sense repeated over and over when it's clearly wrong. Like this comment here.

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2015/07/14/a-short-drive-in-mr-ks-1974-datsun-260z/

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2015/07/14/a-short-drive-in-mr-ks-1974-datsun-260z/comment-page-1/#comment-8579422

 

Claiming the engine was a copy from Austin is a new 1 for me. I just knew when I saw the name Alan T. that there would be no response though :).

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Claiming the engine was a copy from Austin is a new 1 for me. I just knew when I saw the name Alan T. that there would be no response though :).

 

They've been "moderating" my posts before publishing them, cutting out some important points and scrapping anything they find perhaps a little bit too upsetting. Not that it makes much difference of course, as people read articles like that one and then use them as reference pieces for future balls-ups. It must be true, it's Hemmings - right? 

 

If they spent a bit more time researching and editing the article (or at least showing it to an adult...) before publishing it then things might be a bit better. Only thing they've changed is the mistake of calling Matsuo san 'Yoshiko' instead of Yoshihiko (Yoshiko being a female name...), so I suppose the "factory special order" sunroof thing is going to be repeated in future. File it with the "original G-noses were steel" / "Original G-noses were alloy" and "original headlamp covers were glass" etc etc stories.   

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