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2 hours ago, HS30-H said:

Probably will, but I have to say that this BaT phenomenon of high-selling S30s (and it is almost exclusively HLS30Us) seems to be fuelled by a small coterie of self-styled 'Collectors' who are trying to out-Billy-Big-Balls each other. The same few characters seem to be active on almost every auction of similar cars, and when they've rinised the arse out of that particular scene they will probably move onto the next 'up and coming' marque and model.

I somewhat agree, it's almost like a pump and dump scheme with penny stocks being played.

Perhaps due to Casinos being closed with Covid these whales need something to throw their money at?

Makes me wonder how the future will look for these cars. But I am also wondering the same thing about R34 GTRs..seeing them break all kinds of records month on month..

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Thanks for sharing Alan, very interesting.  I was lucky enough for visit Zama a couple of years back, the guides were super helpful, gave a parting gift on the way out and you could buy GTR water

Probably will, but I have to say that this BaT phenomenon of high-selling S30s (and it is almost exclusively HLS30Us) seems to be fuelled by a small coterie of self-styled 'Collectors' who are trying

Nissan has three cars in its Heritage Collection at Zama: The '71 East African Safari Rally-winning car, the '72 Monte Carlo Rallye 3rd place finisher and the '73 Safari-winner. They regularly show th

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7 minutes ago, gav240z said:

Makes me wonder how the future will look for these cars. But I am also wondering the same thing about R34 GTRs..seeing them break all kinds of records month on month..

Thing is, I can understand the relative rarity of nice R34 GT-Rs helping to drive prices up (with what, something like 12,000 or less built and very few having escaped radical modification and abuse?) along with it perhaps being seen as one of the *the* Skyline GT-R high points, but these BaT guys are bidding against each other on cars that seem to keep popping out of the woodwork almost every week.

There must be a finite supply of 'early' HLS30Us, but there certainly seem to be plenty of them coming to the BaT auctions and a lot of them appear to be being sold by dealers and flippers. There must be quite a few such cars that are being sold off in probate sales or by owners who are just too old to use them anymore, and *that* is where you want to be buying. Taking pride in paying the most for something amongst fellow collectors seems to be more about ego than true love and appreciation for the cars.

And anyway, I think the whole BaT thing is weird. Who wants to be bidding in an auction where anonymous comments are encouraged, but often vetted or edited by admin while the auction is live? It opens the whole format up for abuse and/or manipulation. All rather odd. 

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2 hours ago, C.A.F. said:

Amazing...

And that's not even the worst of it. The more the car was taken apart, the more it revealed. And this was what was being described as "immaculate" by the importer. 

Much of it was rectified and/or mitigated, but it's still half made out of other cars. Apparently it won a prize at ZCON in the USA a couple of weeks ago.... :-X

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I feel like these US centric events and trophies are a bit of a load of old tosh anyway..

Mr K signed sun visors seem to increase the value by $20k.. another $30k if it's a glove box..

Just goes to show when dealing with these old cars you need an experienced eye to examine them and check the restoration work.

I've seen enough of these cars now to know what a difference it makes to the overall fit and finish of these cars when they are done right. Many cars look good in photos. Not so much in person.

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