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260z 2-seater 3.1L stroker SOLD

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oh i had better look into that.

I wonder if it applies to a roadworthy and engineered car?

 

Who in NDSOC can i contact for further info does anyone know??

 

Oooops hijacking again :o

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Who in NDSOC can i contact for further info does anyone know??

260coupe on this forum, Alan is the Club plate delegate.

 

From my understanding, an engineers certificate is required for modified cars.

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Hi Raj

I'm looking for a Z at the moment. Not sure this is the right car for me (or my bank account is the right size for you) but my offer will be considerably better than $5K! Give me a bell on 0466 380395 if you want to discuss. Cheers Martin

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Hi Raj

I'm looking for a Z at the moment. Not sure this is the right car for me (or my bank account is the right size for you) but my offer will be considerably better than $5K! Give me a bell on 0466 380395 if you want to discuss. Cheers Martin

If you are seriously considering this car Martin, I think you should call Raj. Not the other way round

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hey Gav, respectfully I have to give some 'push back' about the idea that the 240z will outprice a 260z.  In my experience most people who are willing to spend are not buying from a 'purist' mindset but from a perspective of 'how much toy' can I get for my dollar.  I have sold two 2+2's for more than many a 240z is going for based on look, immediate drivabilty etc and my 260z beat the selling price of 90% of eqiv 240z, it's not so much the model as it is the ability to purchase something that won't sit in the back corner of the shed for 5 years.

Rev.

 

To be honest you would know the market much better than I, I've not had to sell a Z in 10 years. I guess it depends on what the buyer is looking for a collector car or something they can drive and enjoy. I'd say most people looking for a Z are simply after something they can enjoy as oppose to an investment.

 

The problem is, most people look at that price in comparison to the cheap ones, and say "I can build that car myself for that price, and I don't have to come up with the money all at once."

What they don't factor in is all the little costs (and sheer time) involved in building a car like this, which just keep adding up, especially given the facilities the average person has on hand.  Even Gav240z, who knows quite well how much a lot of these things cost, has been a bit optimistic with his comment previously:Gav, no disrespect meant, but the average person won't get any change at all out of 35k to build something like that when you include buying a car to start from.  I'm not convinced I could build that car much cheaper (if at all), as a mechanic by trade with plenty of contacts.

 

Very good points and to be honest I am forgetting the cost of acquiring a car now. You can't find a rust free 240 / 260 anymore for chump change. I bought my 240z about 8-9 years ago for 7,000 AU and if I had to put it on the market now I would definitely list it around 15k even though I would be the first to admit it needs a little TLC in areas.

 

I am also forgetting the cost to build such a car, even if you have the skills you need the tools and quality tools are damn expensive. I know because I recently bought an FD RX-7 and since I now live in Dublin I don't have all the tools I used to have at my old folks place. That collection of tools was built up over many years, some were my fathers tools and some were my step dad's and I never really considered how lucky I was to have access to said tools. I now have to start the collection all over again.

 

So yes to build such a car as this 3.1ltr 260z I'd say you would need a good stack of cash. Not to mention time. It took me several years of searching to find 12 L14 rods and the LD28 crank is not cheap to get in Australia. That's before machine costs.

 

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Hi Raj

I'm looking for a Z at the moment. Not sure this is the right car for me (or my bank account is the right size for you) but my offer will be considerably better than $5K! Give me a bell on 0466 380395 if you want to discuss. Cheers Martin

 

Hi,

 

Feel free to contact me if your interested. My number is on carsales.

 

cheers,

 

Raj

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Hi DevilZ

 

I'm in a similar situation to you just not with a Zed (Whittie lets me share his so long as I don't beat him too often) I have a low k mint condition Mkiv TT targa top Supra that I've subtly modified to suite my requirements, I recently considered selling it but before advertising it I did on the Supra forums what you're doing here and I didn't particularly like the feed back I got but it was honest so I must respect it.

 

I thought the car was worth low to mid 30's but the forum people said based on recent sales evidence I should expect low to mid 20's the really interesting thing to come out of it was that if I removed all the performance and bling mods and took the car back to stock the price remained ~ the same but the sale value of parts would take my total return up to what I considered to be the car's value, fortunately I have kept all the stock items.

 

So now to your car, if we say the market value for your car based on recent sales evidence is low to mid 20's, what items can be removed without affecting the price?  A near new stroker motor has real value but it appears not to be adding value to your car so a swap to a less expensive motor may not effect the sale price, likewise a stock or cheaper brake and suspension package also a stock drive line and possibly stock wheels.

 

Of course you could always arrive at the same conclusion I did and say "Stuff yous all I'm keeping it" park the car in the garage, plug in the battery maintenance charger and go and have a beer in the knowledge that you have an appreciating asset.

 

BTW.....Recently I spent several days at a truck wash removing kilos of solidified fish oil from assorted nooks and crannies in Whittie's Z in preparation for it's rotisserie experience and as it happened, the truck wash owner has a similar age Falcon GT, when he noticed the Z's independent rear suspension he asked how difficult it was to fit and was amazed when I told him it was standard (I guess he thought all 70's car had cart springs in the rear) he was even more amazed when I told him that new the Datsun 260Z cost more than his Falcon Good Trier.

 

Your car presents extremely well, good luck with the sale.

 

John

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Hi Guys,

 

Still haven't had a serious buyer for the car. I'm quiet motivated to sell as I'm really not drivingthe car.

So someone is going to get the chance to snap up a bargain. I'll look at considering offers above 21k, which is a fraction of what a car like this costs to build.

So for those of you interested drop me a personal message with an offer. If the car doesn't sell soon, it will have to have the rego pulled off and left to sit in my

garage for a few year. :)

 

Raj

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Did you try the UK site? Could be a goer, as I sold my last 240Z (with the 1JZ engine) to a UK buyer. This was about 7 years ago and back then getting $19k for a Zed was an achievement. Of course the pound was better back then so he was only paying 8000 quid. He was stoked with the car though, as UK Zeds have even more trouble with rust than we do

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you might be able to recoup more of your loses if you chuck an l26 in there. leave the efi gear.

 

then sell your l3.1 on its own. you should get a pretty penny for the engine alone.

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Hi,

 

Thanks for the advice guys. I don't want to put a 2.6l back in there though because with these size multi throttle bodies it wont run nice.

I actually sold the car to a guy that was suppose to pick it up today for $21800 including a roadworthy certificate but he just called me back today and says he

wants to test drive the car again because his not sure why he isn't excited about buying the car. I was even good enough to not get a deposit from him before spending $600 on a roadworthy.....big mistake. So this car is still for sale as far as I can see because he looks to be backing out. Anyone interested better get in quick though.

 

At $21800 with a roadworthy and a years rego I think a car with this engine is an absolute bargain. Here's the spec sheet I drew up for him on what is on the car right now (I was even giving him a second set of suspension all height adjustable with 300zx twin turbo 4 spot capilipers and rotors along with a rear disk brake setup all in the price)

Anyway here is the spec sheet. The car has only done 4000kms since being built with this engine.

 

Engine

Management

• Wolf 3D version 4 ecu with handcontroller

• Bosch throttle position sensor

• Custom thermostat housing to take water temp sensor

• Ambient Air temp sensor

• Twin thermo fans

• Dyno Tuned for 98 unleaded fuel only (BP Ultimate)

 

Intake

• EFI Hardware 6 48mm throttle bodies with race linkages and bosch motorsport 350hp injectors and pro series ram tubes

• Custom cable drive accelerator linkage

• Custom taper bored 3 piece intake manifold

 

Ignition

• Custom trigger wheel and modified underdrive pully

• Halleffects sensor

• Tripple coil packs

• Hugo igniter module

• Custom ignition leads

 

Cylinder Head

• Ported cylinder heads (match ported to intake manifold an headers)

• Larger exhaust valve with self lubricating guides

• Competition valve springs and matching lashpads

• Dowled adjustable cam sprocket

• 74 degree reground camshaft (clive cams)

• ARP head stud kit

 

Short block

• L28 block with over bored cylinders and tunnel bored crank main bearings with screw in oil gallery plugs

• Baffled race sump

• LD28 (stroker) crankshaft with one piece nose, screw in oil gallery plugs, reground and resized journals to match block and conrods

• L24 conrods shotpeend, resized, polished and weighted with 9mm ARP rod bolts, brass bushed little end to take full floating pistons and redrilled for oiling

• JCC full floating pistons (KA24) with ceramic coated tops

• NDC tri-metal race bearings with oil grooves

• Tomie 2mm metal head gasket

• Tomie high volume oil pump

• Fully balanced engine including flywheel/clutch and pully

• Nulon 15-40w mineral based oil only ever used

 

 

 

Exhaust

• Extractors (mixer style) with 1 5/8 inch primarys 2inch secondarys and 2.5 inch final. Fully thermo wrapped

• Stainless steel mandrel bent 2.5 inch custom system

 

Fuel System

• Rollercell lift pump

• Bosch motorsport 400hp fuel pump

• Custom Surge Tank

• Bosch petrol filters

• Bosch fuel pressure regulator

 

Driveline

• Custom billet steel flywheel

• Excedy heavy duty organic clutch and pressure plate (R33 skyline GTS-T)

• Cusco MZ one way lsd (s14 200sx upgrade spec) with custom half shafts (only use Castrol fully synthetic oil)

• Adjustable differential stay

• 280zx gearbox

 

Suspension and Brakes

• 17x7 +40 offset wheels with custom hub adapters (4x114.3 stud pattern in and 4x100 stud pattern out)

• Poly Urethane bushings

• Whiteline sway bar

• Adjustable Castor Rods

• Front strut brace

• Lowered king springs

• Tokico top adjustable shock absorbers

• Toyota Hilux 4 spot calipers

• DBA slotted and ventilated front rotors (R31 skyline spec with remachined hub and redrilled bolt pattern)

 

 

 

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Geez sounds like a bargin...

 

If only i had somewhere to park it and you took monthly installments.

 

Good luck with the sale.

 

John

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Sorry to hear that DevilZ, If the buyer doesn't go through with it, I guess you have at least learned a valuable lesson by taking a deposit next time?

 

Either way, It won't be hard to get another roadworthy if you need one at a later date.

 

Price is pretty good, just a waiting game to find the right buyer now.

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Hi Guys,

 

I'm new to this site.

Have had a 240Z in my earlier years when I was 21 years old.

I think I bought badly and couldn't afford all the maintenance at the time, had rust and other issues.

 

Almost 15 years later, I'm getting the feeling back again and have been looking at the market kind of dreaming about getting one of these again to remind me of my early years.

Although, my life is alot different now and would have to ge the wife to agree.

 

Anyhow, is this car a good buy?

I'm really not that fussy about anything in particular, just wan't something complete and relatively low maintenance.

Not really looking for an all original car.

 

Can someone give me an idea of how much it would cost to keep this car on the road, insurances, etc?

I would only imagine driving it 2 or 3 days a week at most, short distances too.

 

Can this car potentially lose value in future, if left as it?

Or, would any changes cause it to lose value?

 

Sorry for the questions, I have not researched this much, but have no problem spending 20k instantly if there is very little risk/downside involved.

 

Thanks

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Hi Spider, although I haven't seen this car in the flesh I would say that if I was in the market to buy, I would definitely take a long look at this one.

 

"but have no problem spending 20k instantly if there is very little risk/downside involved."

 

I have the same issue when I walk into a casino. My advice there would be to slap your 20 grand under a mattress if you are looking for low maintenance/low risk!

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Thanks for your advice Mr Handsandwhich.

 

So are you saying that I'm dreaming if I think this could be a low maintenance car?

 

I'm quite time poor, so don't want to be spending alot of time fixing.

However, also don't want to be handing out cash for others to fix things for me either, if it's going to be an ongoing exercise.

I'm quite capable to fix things, but as mentioned, time poor and would prefer to not have to spend alot of time on maintenance.

 

Although I have not been looking hard, I've not seen many good 2 seaters come onto the market lately within this price range.

 

Sorry for asking again, but any ballpark estimate for keeping a car like this insured for maybe 2 days/week use?

 

Thanks

Spider

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Any ~35 year old car has the potential to require a bit of ongoing work. That said, this one does look to be pretty well built, has great fuel injection (less fiddling than carbies), and it's (IMHO) a bargain at the current price (I'd buy it, but my wife would leave me).

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Sorry for asking again, but any ballpark estimate for keeping a car like this insured for maybe 2 days/week use?

 

Thanks

Spider

 

Call Shannons, they will be happy to give you a price. For low use they are very cheap and they will agree to value of $20k plus for that sort of car.

There is always maintenance with an older car, but one with everything mechanical already changed is likely to be much better. It will be more a case of small things like the indicators stop working etc, rather than stopping in a cloud of steam on the side of the road.

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In my opinion, this car would be a bloody good buy and bloody great value.  All the hard work looks to have been done.  I honestly can't see it requiring any more service costs than any other car - even less if it's a weekender.

 

The body looks great - the mechs have all been renewed/replaced - and the interior looks good and clean.

 

Yes it will need oil changes and globes will blow - like any other car - but this one would be a real head turner and great fun to drive.

 

If I had 20K to spend and was looking for a finished Zed I would be knocking his door down to get at this car.

 

My 2 cents.

 

MaygZ

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