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Only the 2+2 had 4 seats hence the math equation :).

 

The dog leg might be tricky to check because if it's bogged up it will look ok on the outside but once you strip it back you may find bog instead of welded in metal repairs. You can look at it from inside the rear wheel and look at the lower area there to see how solid it is, push it with your finger down around that area and see if it's solid or if it crumbles with rust.

 

Also check underneath the car and feel behind it, give it a squeeze, the trained eye can usually tell if paint looks odd in certain areas but failing that a fridge magnet on the area that doesn't stick may indicate no metal behind the paint. Car detailers have paint depth gauges that can also reveal potential bog.

 

Take as many photos as you can and come back to Sydney on your return flight and have a think about the car when your not over there and excited about it. I think at this stage you still don't know enough about the cars to make a really informed decision on the purchase but.. I realise I sound like a Debbie Downer also.

 

$15k is quite a bit for a 2+2 that needs rust repair work. Possibly extensive...

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Also owner seems to think it was always red like the engine bay

 

That may be true, the seat rail supports looked green in your photos but that may be normal (I'm not always 100% on the finer details of later S30z's, especially 2+2s). The rear tail light area was a burgundy red like colour and that was a factory 260z colour.

 

 

From a financial point of view Is buying a 260z for 15k and spending 10k on it a waste or is 25k or 30k a wise investment?

 

Personal view I'm after really.

 

If I was your financial planner I'd say you're nuts, as an S30z enthusiast it depends how you view that investment. As an investment in fun the S30z is possibly 1 of the best classic cars out there for the price. I'm biased of course. Restored 2+2s tend to struggle at higher prices to sell. However they are too becoming more and more rare and if you own the car for say 5-10 years it may not be a bad investment from a "get your money back perspective".

 

However 25-30K will buy you an excellent restored car (2+2) and could be worth waiting out for.

 

The majority of people though prefer the 2 seaters over the 2+2s which has always kept 2+2 values somewhat muted...

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Forgot to mention the doors seem ok but again have been painted so can't be 100%.

 

If I was to spend another 10k restoring I wouldn't be too upset.

 

I would try get it cheaper if I could.

 

What would be an ok price you think?

 

I'll upload a picture of the outside of the car.

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Ended up taking your advice to head home and think about it.

 

I plan to make a list of repair and head to me local repair shop to get their opinion on cost and difficulties.

 

From there we'll see how we go.

 

In the mean time I'll keep searching

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The external shots looked ok, car looked clean. However it looks like the area where the rust bubble on the passenger side door (lower sill) was painted not that long ago. The fact it's bubbling again indicates that perhaps there is rust in the area that wasn't fully dealt with.

 

As a car you can hop in and enjoy and slowly improve for $15k it might not be a bad car, but you could be dealing with covered over rust also.

 

I think heading home to think about it and write up a list and get some repair opinions and rough quotes is a good idea. It can be easy to get caught up in the excitement of a new car and see through the flaws that may bite you later.

 

It can't hurt to look at other cars also to get a feel for the condition / value of each.

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It can't hurt to look at other cars also to get a feel for the condition / value of each.

Hi

 

I agree, do your research (which you are) then apply that knowledge to looking at a few cars before you buy one.

Very rarely is the first car you see the best one.

 

Good cars do come along, you just need to be patient.

 

 

 

Cheers

 

PB

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Sadly Lynton's car is the exception not rule when it comes to 2+2's on the market. But if you're patient enough you can find a car like it.

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That looks like a fantastic car,especially for the money. There's a red one in Sydney for 25k that looks completed.

 

Might contact the seller and see if I can see what a 260 at the other end of the market looks like.

 

Appreciate all the help.

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That looks like a fantastic car,especially for the money. There's a red one in Sydney for 25k that looks completed.

Might contact the seller and see if I can see what a 260 at the other end of the market looks like.

Appreciate all the help.

Cars where someone else has done all the work, usually present better value than one you do.

Just make sure that there is documented photogrphic evidence if buying a car someone else did.

 

Good luck, enjoy the hunt.

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It does have some great curb appeal I will give it that, no doubt it will need to stripped completely back to bare metal every where - that will be 1-2k exercise alone without fixing anything - it has enough rust coming through to say the respray was just a patch up over the old paint job and no real rust eradication was done. Hey if it drove well with no bad noises it probably worth 10k - 12 at most. It all really up to you - just my 10cents without seeing it in the flesh.

Cheers AK

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No one who has done a PROPER restoration on a 2+2 would be crazy enough to let it go for 15k. because it would cost at least double that to do a legit restoration.

That car looks pretty, but that paint job, its a 1-2k bog and flog deal. You would need to strip it back to metal to see how bad it really is.

And 10k wont get you far in regards to restoring it. You might be up for more than that in rust repairs alone and then paint and body.

 

Personally i wouldn't pay any more than 7k for that car,  but id rather save another 10-15k, then spend 25-30k for a good one when it comes up.

Rudi.

 


 

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I've seen this car on the road and it does look great.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/glebe/cars-vans-utes/1974-datsun-260z-coupe/1097702065

 

However I've not seen it up close to really get a good sense of how the body work is on it. Just seen it when riding my bike home across Anzac bridge going in the opposite direction.

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I wasn't sure about the Auto trans.. 

 

In the grand scheme of things that's probably the last thing to worry about. Easily changed..

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haha true and I have done a conversion in the past... It's also is out of budget unfortunately but if not sold I would still like to see the car in the flesh if the seller allows.

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How it looks from the out side is not to important when rusting from the inside like that. Bog hides a lot of sins.

 

From what is the photos my guess is it will need the following.

 

Removing the radiator support to repair rust or replace whole thing.

 

New rails at front maybe and under floor most likely.

New floors

New sills.

Fire wall repairs

And once striped a lot more.

 

The 1/4 window is an easy fix. There is just a steel 90 degree bracket which is easily replaced.

 

Depending on time,skills and budget its going to be a large job.

 

Maybe keep looking for a better start.

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Looks a nice car and if seller is true to word on this point:

 

 

 

All known rust cut out and metal sheet shaped and welded into place

 

then the price is a bargain.  Definitely a nice looking bus!

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Seller had planned to keep it but his plans change.

 

Main section of rust was Floor in the rear was rusted out and he did a total cut out and replace.

Now I would think if he was going through that much effort he would of replaced any other rust at the time of the work.

Hopefully...

Not to say there hasn't been more rust forming since. Anyhow maybe it would be a better starting point.

 

Waiting for my flight as we speak.

 

Will update after I view it.

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