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1970 RB25det Neo 240z (Sold)

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Hello,

Due to a recent/upcoming change in circumstances baby on the way (first born), i will be putting up my 1970 240z for sale but not entirely sure what's it worth?

Currently running the engine and drive train from a 1999 R34 Gtt (front cut / 26,000 km's), which took place in 2000 by Quickfit motorsport (Hornsby NSW).

The car is fully engineered (report and rego) in NSW. It runs, starts and drives amazingly, paint work is in great condition bar some rust starting to show, please bring someone if not yourself familiar with body work if you are interested. The interior has been redone and is in good condition.

*Currently registered - HS30-01309*

Receipts for pretty much everything (except for the respray).

Specs: full service <100 km's all fluids, coolant flush, filters and new plugs

Engine - stock unopened motor / standard boost (26,000 km's when transferred. Now sitting on 40,000 km's)
Nissan R34 RB25det Neo engine including ecu and wiring harness
RB25 engine mounts
Sump modified to clear cross member
5 speed RB25det gearbox and shortened tailshaft
260z diff with 3.77 center
Custom made 2 1/2" exhaust from cat back (including cat modified to suit)
Fuel cap/inlet has been modified similar to that of a motocycle - key in and twist
EFI fuel pump and surge tank - low pressure return system
Hyrdo dipped (carbon fibre look) engine cover + spare (original)
hks pod filter and custom heat shield

Suspension and brakes - all bushes have been replaced through the course of the conversion
Springs and shocks tbc oem but standard height not adjustable
Front brakes - VL turbo disc's and calipers
Rear brakes - SAAB 900 disc's and EA falcon rear calipers fitted. modified handbrake system to suit
AP racing wheels 15x6.5

Interior - blue, black and grey
Plush/fabric seats from a Honda prelude including rails - please note the seats arent faded just the lighting.
The interior has been re carpeted in navy blue
Black floor mats and headliner
Pioneer mp3 player and 6x9 speakers (removable as they are not mounted)
Rhino alarm and immobilizer
Uncracked dash
*YES that is a samurai shifter*

Exterior - paint work is in good condition - midnight blue with pearl through it.
Rear bumper has been removed and tail shaved/molded
De-badged
Under body has been coated in tar
front heatlight cover and fender's also molded

bad points - unfortunately not without its flaws
Diff will need a rebuild (hoping to sort this out if time permits or sold as is)
clock, taco and fuel gauge (original) to be replaced. I have a replacement fuel gauge and clock
Speedo needs calibration
1x rust bubble on left fender (20c) and a few rust bubbles on the rear end (above exhaust)

I have reached the photo limit, i have additional pics that i can email at request. The rust bubbles and floor pans i will wait until the weekend to snap. I will also update any additional info as i go along during the week, as this was done from memory.



Cheers


 

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I dont know what it's worth but it sounds amazing. I will be watching this closely and can't wait to see the pics when they arrive.

 

GLWTS

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Gidday

 

Nice looking Z.

Whats it worth is a tough question, 15-20K ??  If the body is good under the paint, but that is really just a wild guess.

 

Plenty of people have been looking for 2 seaters but not sure how many want an RB25 powered one. If it was 2+2 I would come for a look.

 

 

In my opinion I would do a couple things that would help you sell.

- supply photo or other evidence of the quality of the body work done in 1999, if you have it.

- Fix as many of the little things as you can, small faults can cast a shadow over the quality of the entire car.

 

Good luck with the sale.

 

 

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@cozza - I've had the car about 4 months. I found out the lady is pregnant over the weekend and i don't have a daily atm, hence the reason for sale.

 

@pb260z - Cheers for the advice. Ill see how far the photos date back, between now and final sale i'll try and get to the little things.

 

@shime - cheers bud :)

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It is very hard to price without looking at it or seeing the money shots but, Just a rough guest with what you have shown if stuck on e-bay on a no reserve auction with todays market with the car sold as is, no rwc, rego, or mod plates for the seats and motor suspension and brakes I would say it would get about 12k with a lot of watches, a change of wheels, I would say 15k, if you fixed it up on the road rego and plated with wheel change and photos proof of rebuild under paint, depending how good it looked inside and engine bay, and how low the vin number is, anywhere from 25-45k depending how long you wanted to wait to find the right buyer.

Hope this gives you a guide, it would be well worth your while to fix the small things you see.

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Hi Patch,

 

The car is engineered for everything in NSW (for the specs provided) wheels, suspension, motor, seats etc with a engineering cert/report the report is also reflected on the rego papers

 

Thanks for the advice though, i think as soon as i get a chance ill get the photos updated and try to find some prior to the respray.

 

Cheers

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That's good then and would put the price up straight away, most people who will look at buying this and paying good money will want it turn key and drive away, the more they have to do will bring the price down, not sure if you noticed I don't think the wheels are doing anything for the car, I would have no problems paying $100 for them to use to roll my car around and use to paint the car in paint booth and throw in the bin when finished painting it, I suggest you have a look in the photo gallery and see what difference a nice set of wheels make or even see if you can swap or buy some nicer ones.

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@cozza - I've had the car about 4 months. I found out the lady is pregnant over the weekend and i don't have a daily atm, hence the reason for sale.

Well I guess it's probably similar to what you paid for it. Although, considering there are so few for sale at the moment, only 1 240z and 6 260z's on Carsales, it may have gone up a bit.

As above, pending body condition, if it's good, I would be guessing 20k and up. The more photos you have of the body restoration will increase the value I think.

But, as the old saying goes, it's worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

 

Don't know if the wheels are dear to you but, I'm with Patch, the car would sell for more with another set of rims.

 

Good luck with the sale and with the new Bub.  :)

Mick

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Definitely pics of the rust patches especially will help with a valuation - it is what lurks beneath that can have an impact on your price.

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This car is easy a $20k+ car every day of the week. There are cars that have sold for $18k on here recently that had average paint L28 and triples.

Stick a different set of wheels on it and it will be easier to sell. From the info provided i would put $25k on it and see how you go.

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@Mick - I definitely now think i was premature in asking without the relevant photos but a good experience. It has also been helpful in the sense of the questions/information i need to be prepared for when i do put up a price. Its so funny, when chasing the dream of owning a 240z, i love the JDM look with flares, wantanbes etc and when i first seen this in person, it just had a way about it and decided to leave it as it. Although, i have a brand new set of Rota RKR 15x9, IMSA 3 piece spoiler and ZG flares but i didnt want to cut the fenders :(  cheers :)

 

@andyk - I want to pull the post until i can get more photos up but won't be able to get photo's until the weekend.

 

@shadowflaps - had a good chuckle at your response 

 

@triptych - thanks bud, at this stage just looking for a cash sale.

                                       

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I would say under 20k mark.

 

However there are some people who would pay more, just a mater of time.

 

Biggest draw back is the lack of restoration history, if you find it and post it then this zed could sell for a lot more.

Reasoning is obvious, I have been inspecting a lot of Zeds lately and I can say that 9/10 have been poor restorations without any history.

 

However the ones with restoration proof or original sell quickly and for a premium.

 

Best of luck with the sale.

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Don't give it away, you couldn't build a car like this under 20K. However I'd give away the wheels :). Don't put the flares on though, I'd find a nice set of 'period' looking wheels that fit the car nicely with stock guards.

 

I guess value is difficult to determine because at this stage I'm not sure if 'original' or 'restomod' is where the money is with these cars, in my opinion though it's the 'original' cars that will prevail in values. Still the advantage of this is it's user friendly.

 

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

 

 

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@gav240z - thanks for the positive feedback, i had a lot of great information but seems the wheels a thing of acquired taste. Ive got a brand new set of rota's but figured if i'm selling, no point for me as i will lose on the cost of tyres etc but i guess ill see how this pans out.

 

also is there anyway to pause or put this ad on hold? Id rather relist in a few days when i have the relevant photos etc and sale price.

 

Cheers, Ash

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What a load of crap!

 

If thing was listed below 20k it would sell with in the week.

 

As long as the body is as described.

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Im with decoy anything less than 20 you are short changing yourself.... Not sure where the other bloke is getting his figures from :)  25-30 is more like it particularly if it's not full of filler..... Did the wheels for period ones.... The conversion alone is 6+ grand

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Please email me if you'd like more photos or specific areas. Due to the lighting and my samsung, the floor pans + rust bubbles will be taken first chance this weekend.

 

Thank you to those that kindly took the time to email me and give me advice and those that called. As i've received so many calls, text and emails. My apologies if i dont get back to you right away but ill endeavor to respond at least within a day.

 

Disclaimer: no i do not wash her at a car wash, merely due to poor lighting at my residence it was the closest.

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Unfortunately i cannot post anymore pics

 

Are you having a technical issue with the website or just can't at the moment?

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Im with decoy anything less than 20 you are short changing yourself.... Not sure where the other bloke is getting his figures from :)  25-30 is more like it particularly if it's not full of filler..... Did the wheels for period ones.... The conversion alone is 6+ grand

 

My estimate was based on what I thought it would sell on e-bay on todays market with what was provided at the time and only 2 photos.

Is it fair to say a car is only worth what somebody is willing to pay.

I looked at a very nice 95 Nissan skyline GTR factory low ks with log books, sold no reserve for 15k,GTS selling for as low as 5k, Club sports and Senators with low ks having trouble getting 8k, SLK230 low ks sports convertible having trouble getting 8k, not sure if you have been following the market, but no one has any money.

 

This car had no mention of Mode plates, and was wanting a estimate selling as is with all known problems.no rego or WRC,  I also stated if the car was fixed up it could go for 25k-45k depending condition and finding the right buyer, How long will that take.?, If you are forced to sell as is expect the worst, most of you are offering a price of what you feel it is worth

Bad points about the car,

sold as an unfinished project, (no idea what it will cost to finish)

It was stated the diff needed replacing, ( has the car been thrashed )

The floor as been coated in tar,(is that to hide the rusted floors) Photos needed of under carpets.

It had a paint job in 1999 and has rust bubbles coming though the back, (how well was the rebuild, are you sitting on a time bomb) photos of rebuild will show what is under the paint

Has only owned the car for 4 months, (why is he selling it, has he found it is full of rust or huge problems with drive line) photos of rebuild and rego and on the road will help ease these concerns.

 

So there are just a few concerns that buyers would want to know, that will reflect what a bidding price some one will go to on a unknown car of what will it cost to get this car back on the road,

If the car is good it would be well worth your while to get it fixed and on the road with all photos and cert.

How many saying it is worth over 25k as is with known problems actually have the money and have offered to buy it now.

 

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My estimate was based on what I thought it would sell on e-bay on todays market with what was provided at the time and only 2 photos.

Is it fair to say a car is only worth what somebody is willing to pay.

I looked at a very nice 95 Nissan skyline GTR factory low ks with log books, sold no reserve for 15k,GTS selling for as low as 5k, Club sports and Senators with low ks having trouble getting 8k, SLK230 low ks sports convertible having trouble getting 8k, not sure if you have been following the market, but no one has any money.

 

This car had no mention of Mode plates, and was wanting a estimate selling as is with all known problems.no rego or WRC,  I also stated if the car was fixed up it could go for 25k-45k depending condition and finding the right buyer, How long will that take.?, If you are forced to sell as is expect the worst, most of you are offering a price of what you feel it is worth

Bad points about the car,

sold as an unfinished project, (no idea what it will cost to finish)

It was stated the diff needed replacing, ( has the car been thrashed )

The floor as been coated in tar,(is that to hide the rusted floors) Photos needed of under carpets.

It had a paint job in 1999 and has rust bubbles coming though the back, (how well was the rebuild, are you sitting on a time bomb) photos of rebuild will show what is under the paint

Has only owned the car for 4 months, (why is he selling it, has he found it is full of rust or huge problems with drive line) photos of rebuild and rego and on the road will help ease these concerns.

 

So there are just a few concerns that buyers would want to know, that will reflect what a bidding price some one will go to on a unknown car of what will it cost to get this car back on the road,

If the car is good it would be well worth your while to get it fixed and on the road with all photos and cert.

How many saying it is worth over 25k as is with known problems actually have the money and have offered to buy it now.

 

@Patch, im not sure his response was aimed at your post (more for bottom of page one). While i do appreciate the feedback, as people's opinions is what i asked for. I mentioned and wrote in the original post that it is fully engineered, and reflected on the registration papers FOR NSW (NSW does not require mod plates or rwc) if not registered, it will need a blueslip . It was never stated as an unfinished project.

 

While you did raise valid concerns that people would have, whether my reasoning or integrity is up for debate is another question. I am in no way shape of form a Z veteran hence and would advise any potential buyers to bring there mechanic etc and happy to take it to a workshop/hoist for them. Ive removed the information stated that i dont have paper work for so there isnt any confusion.

 

lastly, the under body (exterior is coated in tar - rust prevention), floor pan shots to be taken over the weekend.

 

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