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Poll: Should Viczcar change for 2007? (19 member(s) have cast votes)

Should Viczcar change for 2007?

  1. Early 240z and 260z Only - Leave it how it is. (15 votes [78.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 78.95%

  2. Early Datsun only - Skyline(C10, C110), Roadster, Zcar, 510 etc.. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Zcars Only - 240z, 260z, 280z, 280zx, 300zx Z31, Z32 and 350z (4 votes [21.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.05%

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#1 gav240z

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Posted 29 May 2007 - 07:51 PM

Hi everyone,
I have been speaking with Sulio about the latest website upgrades and possible changes we can make to the website. In an effort to grow Viczcar we are considering a few options.

First of all nothing is set in stone at this stage and this is strictly a poll to get a feel for what others want to see from the website and why you enjoy Viczcar.com. You do enjoy using the site right? :)

Ok so there are a few ideas we have thrown up in the air and here is a list of what we are considering.


Keep the website about early Zcars (eg: 240z and 260z)
Make the website an Australian Zcar resource (240z, 260z, 280z, 280zx, 300zx Z31 Z32 & 350z).
A Datsun only website (Early Datsun Zeds, Skyline's, 1200's, 1600's, Roadsters - basically anything Datsun).

Now it is important to note that the new proposed forum would contain sections dedicated to the respectful make and model. Likewise with the gallery and the rest of the website, we would have a clear cut line between each make and model so that members wouldn't be stepping on each others toe's so to speak.

Of course this could open up a few issues for some members and we understand that. So now is your chance to voice any concerns you may have and also include some suggestions or ideas for the website.

I think we have grown beyond our Victorian Zcar roots and we should now look toward being a resource for Australasian Zcar enthusiasts.

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Posted 29 May 2007 - 08:14 PM

It would be great to expand for sure, but although I like the other Datsuns, I got my Zed for a reason.

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Posted 29 May 2007 - 10:00 PM

i think anything thats got an L6 in it makes sense, or came with one from the factory :D or any other engine s30's came with in japan

other than that i would of thought 1600 ppl were at home on ozdat? 1200's have their own site, 300zx's probably have their own site too, but old skylines dont really? if it gets opened up to much to a car group that easily out numbers orginal zed's and are a different type of car, ie manufactured after 1985ish so are all snap fits etc, then i can see this site loosing its orginal intention and s30's being pushed into the background?

not that i'd have a problem with it if the site did go any of the ways mentioned!

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Posted 30 May 2007 - 01:05 AM

is early 240z and 260z keeping it how it is?
half the time the subject is to do with the 280zx.
id like to keep things as much 240 and 260 as possible.
if we wanted to expand to other models of datsuns, we would just become Ozdat.

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Posted 30 May 2007 - 09:23 AM

Mmmm, I think Ozdat is already a good place for 1600's and the like, I don't see any benefit in that. I guess I wouldn't mind other Z's although the really later models don't have anything in commong with early 240/260's, but it would be a good way of boosting numbers!

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Posted 30 May 2007 - 09:55 AM

I like the idea of it being a National Zed site. Not a fan of all Datsuns. There are some crap datsuns out there like the 180B etc. There are plenty of sites for 1600's. I think we need to keep this site exclusively for Zed's. I don't mind the 350's in but 300's not so sure. I know we can't have one without the other. But the 300's seem to be on a different platform to the 240's & 260's. I also think most of the 300 owners don't care to much for our old style 240 & 260's. So we could be making a rod for our own back if we open up the forum too much.
That's my 20cents worth.

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Posted 30 May 2007 - 11:40 PM

Alright I think I can see where the concerns lie.

I personally like the Datsun Fairlady Roadsters the C10 and C110 Skylines and the Prince Skylines.

These vehicles would certainly be in the minority on such a forum but could also give us some additional, same period material to feature.

Another alternative would be to have a Nostalgic Hero style to the website. If anyone has picked up one of these magazines they often feature classic Japanese vehicles which are generally pre 1983.

I love looking through the Nostalgic Hero magazines however others may not feel the same. Generally in the Nostalgic hero mags there is a Z domination factor.

Anyway just thought I'd throw a few more ideas into the mix. We are a small community which is great but maintaining a website such as this is a fair amount of work and it would be great for us to grown even further.

All ideas welcome.

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Posted 30 May 2007 - 11:58 PM

Personally I dont see the point in growing the size of our community, if the information and help that these new members bring wont be of any help or use to us zed owners. One great thing about this forum is that the people really do know what they are talking about, and that almost every thread is related to something we all know and experience. I think there is no point increasing our size whilst losing our clubs relevance to the cars that we all own.

just my way of thinking though, which is more than often wrong.
cheers,
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Posted 31 May 2007 - 06:31 AM

Yeh true, but I reckon that with the added cars like 280s and Z31s, there are still a lot of the same parts and designs there, but i do agree with the Z32 onwards being of no use or relevance.
Not to mention that we already have a few 280 and Z31 owners on here and no one seems to mind.

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 06:57 AM

I can see the appeal to getting more traffic to the site, but the other side of that question is: Why do you want more traffic? Right now, this forum and site is great for S30 owners, knowing that it's 100% dedicated to their specific car. There are other Z forums, there are other Datsun forums, so on and so forth. So do you want traffic for the sake of having traffic? Building the membership for the sake of building the membership? Is that in the best interests of the site?

I know that for myself, I don't particular want a bunch of teenagers in Z32s joining up. That might sound elitist, but the reason I love this site - and part of the reason why I love the S30 - is because it's a community of mature people with taste and a proper appreciation for their car. I think the average owner of Z32s - and I know this is a generalisation - isn't my kind of person.

*shrug*

I don't see a need to grow the forum. Right now it caters to a specific audience devoted to a specific car. Expanding the range of cars will expand the member base, but as I said above, what's the reason for wanting to have more members?

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 09:09 AM

I tend to agree with JPZ240. I certainly aren't a big fan of the Skyline better know as a Volvo. Those cars just don't have the same style or any curves for that matter that would be appealing to a Zed owner. They have their own website and forums going. It worries me that if you open this forum up to patrons other than Zed enthusiasts then you will become just another wishy washy site with no clear direction attracting all types of foreigners like on Ozdat etc. Once you lose your identity with the 100% removed from the Zed then people might just sail off to there sites that are similar. just my thoughts. there's no substitue for a classic 240 or 260.

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 10:54 AM

G,day.. My threepence worth is leave as is, but make welcome the 280ZX crowd as well. I am sure we will pick up a few Roadster,Prince & C110 along the way as long as they dont get Flamed when they post on here !! Jim

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 01:10 PM

Casting my memory back to when the site had given "birth", I'm sure that the intention was to remain zed focused. 1600's, 300's etc have there own following and site. So should this one, being zed related as it relates to the Aust. Zed Community.
My 2c FWIW.

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 01:16 PM

I don't even consider the 280ZX to be a worthy car, to be honest, but I know I'm possibly in the minority on that opinion haha.

I just don't see what's wrong with having a strictly S30 forum. If all those owners of later Zs want to talk about their cars, well... Domains cost 10 bucks, hosting doesn't cost much, and PHPBB is free. They can go get their own home.

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 01:20 PM

I don't even consider the 280ZX to be a worthy car, to be honest, but I know I'm possibly in the minority on that opinion haha.

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Not really in the minority, just silly enough to admit it.

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 02:08 PM

Yeah i don't think you'd be in too much of a minority there van.

I am an S130 driver, and I can see reasons why the S30 drivers would want to keep the forum exclusively for S30 drivers as that is how it was origanly set up. with that said, there are a lot of similarities between the 2 models and a lot of you guys are running S130 parts.

I dunno... all im tryuing to say is that i find the site a very useful resource seeing as the cars are similar, but if i was an S30 driver then i can see it potentialy being annoying having different "non-classic" zed models hanging around.

I dunno how long i'll hang onto my 280 though anyway, i love it, but, im thinkin of selling and buying something practicle, then in a few years getting an S30 as a second car.

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 04:49 PM

I know that for myself, I don't particular want a bunch of teenagers in Z32s joining up. That might sound elitist, but the reason I love this site - and part of the reason why I love the S30 - is because it's a community of mature people with taste and a proper appreciation for their car. I think the average owner of Z32s - and I know this is a generalisation - isn't my kind of person.


what about teenagers in 240z's joining up, this may be a mature site, but I gained a lot of valuable information from this site when I started my zed at the age of 16.

and that's a fair generalisation van, because i am seriously considering having both a z32 and a 240z, so, would I be somewhere in between a good and a bad person?

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 04:52 PM

I don't even consider the 280ZX to be a worthy car, to be honest, but I know I'm possibly in the minority on that opinion haha.

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haha, very very true.

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 06:05 PM

what about teenagers in 240z's joining up, this may be a mature site, but I gained a lot of valuable information from this site when I started my zed at the age of 16.

and that's a fair generalisation van, because i am seriously considering having both a z32 and a 240z, so, would I be somewhere in between a good and a bad person?


I was merely saying that I've met a lot more idiots/wankers that own Z32s (among other cars, but we're talking about Zs here) compared to the respectable and mature people I've met when it comes to S30s. So while there may very well be Z32 owners out there who have the same personality and attitude as the S30 owners that I know, my point was that I'd rather avoid the possibly of having the wankers joining up.

zedrally: There I go again, having an opinion and sharing it! Haha.

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 11:19 PM

For my 2cents, I like the fact this this is a classic Z focused site. I'm an S30 owner and like the fact that I can come here and find out what other S30 owners are doing. I'm also happy to hear what owners of Zs upto the early 80s are doing.

Am I being elitist? I don't think so. I just want to see this site stay more focused to the classic Z, rather than catering for all models. Or for all Datsun/Nissans for that matter.

The reason I bought the Z was because I like the lines of the body and that I don't need specialist tools to work on the ol' gal.

Have we moved on from being victorian based? Most likely. Maybe we need a name change to something like "Classic Z Club, Australia"? I know that we have a few international followers as well, but I think that we are mainly Aussie focused. Maybe we could set up different "Chapters" of the club to be located around the place where there are high denisty of members allowing for easier setting of runs in those locations??

Just my opinion.

P.S. I also think that this forum is great, as the threads usualy stay on topic and don't turn into flame wars, as seen on other forums that i used to frequent.




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