Jump to content


Photo

Rats Restorations: Project 280zx


  • Please log in to reply
50 replies to this topic

#1 Rat1314

Rat1314

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 108 posts
  • Location:Brisbane
  • Tagline:New Member

Posted 12 February 2012 - 09:52 PM

This is another 'copy and paste' from another site, this is the car that I am currently working on and the one that is stopping me from working on my Z31.


Well as the title suggests this isn't a Z31 but I thought some of you guys would like to see what I get up to in my 'spare' time. I've had a post going on this project for a while on another forum so I'll just copy from that one to start with then update it as I get more work done. There is a lot here so go now and grab a drink go to the toilet come back and enjoy.

Well this car belongs to my future brother in-law (my fiance's brother). He never had an interest in cars until he started working for me part time (doing car detailing) A few years ago. When he started working for me he realized that cars are more than a mode of transportation and he started taking more of an interest in them. As he got towards the end of high school he started looking for a car to buy, he has a camry to drive around in that his parents own so getting something that is registered was not a priority. He decided that he wanted something more than your 'common' car, a commodore or falcon would not do, nor would a little buzz box with a overgrown whipper sniper engine.
He started looking on the internet at cars that he liked the looks of. The first car to cross his eye was late 80's supra (I don't know what year, It had the first DOHC 3.0 motor in it). After pondering that for a bit and more internet searching he come across the 280zx. With no influence from me with whatsoever he decided that a 280zx was the car that he wanted. I was obviously happy with the choice having owned my Z31 for about 4 years by this time.
Then the search began for a 280 within budget (we didn't really have one, just reasonably cheap) and not falling apart. One of the first leads we got was on a white one at a car yard at Stafford. We went around there and had a look. The car wasn't up for sale yet (they had only just received it obviously). After a look at it the car a salesman came over and started asking Michale and Katie (my fiance and her brother) some questions as I was still looking over the car. We had been looking at this car for a while so I had an idea at the condition it was in an had told Michale $2000 would be a good price for it. The sales man was giving them the typical sales pitch... 'it's a classic, can't find them any more, doesn't need anything, I've driven it and it's great' bla bla bla and then insulted the Z31's when Michale told them I had one. I'm still looking at it and wasn't involved in the convocation. Michale asks a price and the sales man told him he had an offer made to him of $10,000 and if he wanted it we had to better it. At that point I popped my head out of the engine bay and said we're leaving. After 12 months of sitting in the lot I think that car sold for $1200.
After that experience Michale was a bit upset and was wondering if he would ever get his 280. All of the cars that were advertised were either too expensive, at least $3000 and that **** head at the car yard had his up for $10000. About 2 weeks later one pops up on E-bay, starting bid was $500, un-registered, not running and at Russel Island. After a phone call we jumped on a ferry to go and have a look and it seemed alright for the price. $650 later and Michale is the proud owner of a 280zx. We went to Russel Island with a car trailer and towed it home. The non running issue was apparently a warped intake manifold, that wasn't the case, just a blown gasket. Took me 4 hours to have it running.
We started working on the car for a while but work stopped due to various reasons. It was originally in his grand dads front yard (not the best for working on a car) but since I now have a house with a garage and I have finished my car we towed the 280 around here on the weekend and the work has begun again. I'm hoping to have it done within 12 months given my experience with my car.
Sorry for the long intro but I thought it was necessary for this car as it has been a mission not only finding it but buying it and also moving it from place to place.
well some pictures are in order now

When we picked it up
Posted Image

The 280 and my 300 in the same garage
Posted Image

After about 30 minutes of having it here
Posted Image

Well there has been some work done, I hate rust by the way.

Rubbish through out the car, the carpets are screwed.
Posted Image

Not too much rust in the back
Posted Image

Fixing panels, these didn't have too much rust on them and were really straight to begin with
Posted Image

One door etch primed, the door jam hasn't been striped yet...
Posted Image

Random shot of Michale trying to reach something while he was in the car
Posted Image

Now the fun begins
Posted Image

And is was here we went 'oh **** this is going to be fun'
Posted Image

The only way to get to the rust was to remove the panel under the windscreen. this meant drilling out all the spot welds, took me a few hours to do
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

Michale: So how are we going to fix this?
Me: Get the grinder and cut out the rust, cut some new steel and weld in place
Posted Image

And after
Posted Image

Some more rust that has been cut out and replaced, the lower part of the 'A' frame was rusty as well
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

I have more pictures that need to be uploaded

Well some more work has been done. We're getting there slowly
Some of the repairs that I had to do to the drivers side door
Posted Image
Posted Image
You would not believe how awkward it is to cut rust out of a door jam (on the door itself and not the body), I tried my best to keep clean cuts but given the awkward angels that was not possible with a grinder.
Another random shot
Posted Image

This area has had about 10 hours put into it, I'm not kidding either there was a lot of work that was done that will never be seen
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

The front passenger side guard ready for paint
Posted Image

And the drivers side door is now ready for paint, surprisingly this took many hours to finish (see the first pics in this post)
Posted Image

Well since that section is under control we move on...
Michael is now dealing with this
Posted Image

And I an dealing with this...
Posted Image

Yes I know I'm crazy taking on a project like this but whats life without a challenge?
Also Michael is learning alot as well so I think it's worth it.

More rust repairs, well that's about all that will be happening for a while.

Michael finished the top corner of the windscreen surround
Posted Image

And some of what I'm dealing with at the moment, I decided not too work tomorrow so I'm hoping to have this section done by the end of the day
Posted Image

This is whats left to do
Posted Image

And the 'O' that you see I mark that on the new steel after I mark out the shape of the piece I need so I know what way faces 'O'ut. There has been many times I've cut a piece, place it down then pick it up and go 'F**k what way does this go'. It help alot and saves on frustration

Things are getting there slowly, Michael started back at uni just a few weeks ago so he hasn't got as much free time now to help so I'm doing more work on my own at the moment.
Right onto the pictures...

This is what it last looked like when I posted
Posted Image

And finished, this took a while
Posted Image

Another section in the same area
Posted Image
Posted Image

Some new brackets I have to make up to replace the rusty ones, they help hold the lower windscreen cowl to the car
Posted Image

This is the color we are painting the car
Posted Image
Posted Image

and this is how it looks in a cup before spraying, all of the metallic flakes in the paint kept on swirling around while it was just sitting there... it was kind of weird and hypnotizing
Posted Image

And the lower windscreen cowl is now rust free
Posted Image
Posted Image

ready to be put back on the car, just need to attach the brackets first
All of the areas with filler on them have had rust removed and new metal welded in, I forgot to ge a before pic of this bit
Posted Image[/quote]

Right time to show you guys whats been happening. Well not long after my last post I was at the wreckers and I stumbled across a 280 there that was really clean and really straight, it looked like it was a unfinished project and it was FULL of parts. I asked the owner of the yard about it and it apparently was a abandoned project when a bloke had to move interstate. I asked how much for the whole car just out of curiosity and he replied with 'well I think that one owes me $500 at the moment so I'll take 500 for it'. I immediately called Michale and he came down for a look and then that weekend we picked it up and took it home. So after getting the gray car home we decided that would be the better shell to use so the blue one is now the parts car. All the parts that the gray car is missing the blue car has so it all works out quite well

Here's some pics of when we got it back home and all the stuff it came with
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

#2 Rat1314

Rat1314

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 108 posts
  • Location:Brisbane
  • Tagline:New Member

Posted 12 February 2012 - 09:53 PM

It was around here I moved house and had a garage built as well as a million other things in life happened but their over now so work is happening a lot faster now


We picked up 2 bonnets a while ago and decided to use the red one as it seemed to be the cleanest underneath rust wise. I don't know why but there was about 1cm of body filler over the whole bonnet. That made a huge mess while I was stripping it.
Posted Image

It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it
Posted Image

And now it's all striped, the haze in the photo is body filler dust in the air. The bonnet looks like it was hit with hail but nothing too serious
Posted Image

My floor after wards
Posted Image

I don't know how to shrink metal yet so I'm just using fillers to fix the dents on the bonnet
Put some primer on it so I can start working on it bit by bit
Posted Image

Me working away
Posted Image

Getting there
Posted Image

Still getting there
Posted Image

Almost there, the filler that is on there isn't that thick
Posted Image

Just put the vents in for the hell of it
Posted Image
Posted Image

Gone over it with blade putty to fill the little imperfections
Posted Image

Right the cars ready lets go!
Posted Image

Bonnet ready for paint
Posted Image

Almost finished, these didn't take much work
Posted Image

Now their ready
Posted Image
Posted Image

Just sitting them on the car to have a look
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

Next we pull it all apart again, doors off this time
Posted Image
Posted Image

Doors undergo my usual treatment
Posted Image

Now their ready
Posted Image
Posted Image

Now we thought of doing something a bit different, well not for me anyway. To make it look a bit smarter we decided on fitting a body kit. Well we weren't going to buy one new so we've started adapting one.
Mike found a front spoiler on ebay off a 180sx, damaged for $70. I'll let the pics show you
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

Hmmm close but needs some work
Posted Image
Posted Image

And how the car looks at the moment
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

It still needs some work but it's getting there

Well I should do a bit of an update, nothing too exiting. Just been stripping and repairing the shell bit by bit. There is some rust that was previously repaired but I decided to cut it out and fix it properly, takes a bit longer but at least I know it's being done right.
These are all the pics I have at the moment, I'll have to see if Michael has more and upload them.

I've been working on this side, it had more rust on this side then the other.
Every where there is filler the metal was cut out and replaced
Posted Image
Posted Image

Now it's primed, still needs a bit of work and for the primer filler to be applied
Posted Image
Posted Image

We have also got the doors, front guards and bonnet painted. I have some pics somewhere I'll have to find them and put them up as well.

Found some more pictures on my phone, I thought I had more.

This was about the worst of the rust on the front end, it was the same on both sides
Posted Image

All fixed
Posted Image
Posted Image

Just a random shot
Posted Image

Fun times
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

And this little bit was a very time consuming little (insert inappropriate language here) to make up and I have to do the same on the other side
Posted Image

And a couple of the painted panels, not too shabby for my first time using 2pac and the color contains a pearl in it as well. I still want to wet sand, spray another 2 coats of clear, wet sand with much finer paper and then cut and polish. My aim is to have it as smooth as glass. I know it's going to be very tedious and time consuming but that's just me being a stubborn bastard.
Posted Image
Posted Image

#3 Rat1314

Rat1314

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 108 posts
  • Location:Brisbane
  • Tagline:New Member

Posted 12 February 2012 - 09:54 PM

Well it's been a little while since I updated this. I had to stop work on the car for a little while before easter as I had a few other things take priority before the long weekend, but thats all done now so I've started on the car again.

First things first, I finally dropped the fuel tank. The f***ing bolts on the straps were seized, had to get the heat gun onto them to help loosen them up a bit but it's out now.
Posted Image

Already been cut out and fitted with new metal
Posted Image
Posted Image

Started stripping some more of the body
Posted Image

Yep thats me, covered in dust, notice the haze? Thats dust in the air from stripping the old paint and body filler.
Posted Image

This is how the rear quater looks at the moment, still have a lot of sanding to go to take a lot of the filler down. And I haven't really started on the lower section yet either.
Posted Image

Pulled apart the front bumper to start mocking up the one I'm going to make.
Posted Image

Starting to line them up, cut, shame and attach. This is going to take a while
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

More to come soon...



Been doing some more work, it's getting there slowly.

The whole lower section of the quater had rust, not much but still, so I cut it out
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

New steel welded in
Posted Image

And a new outer skin that I fabbed up and welded on, it took a little while to make
Posted Image

More rust.
Posted Image

And there was a bit of the floor that was rusted in the corner
Posted Image

Most of it fixed now
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

And what the car looks like at the moment, I've got the spare guards on the front for lining up the bumper(more on that later)
Posted Image

There has been some more work done, just no pictures yet


Ok well more work has been done, I'm not liking the cold weather and it getting dark at 5:30. I need to line the inside of the garage at some point. But anyway onto the car...

Mike has been working on this side while I was working on the other, his side has a LOT less rust then the side I was working on.... I wasn't too happy about that.
Posted Image

And now the rear quaters are primed
Posted Image
Posted Image

There is still a lot to go before we think about applying colour but it's geting there slowly


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Ok well I've been working on the car again and have some updates. Mike hasn't been helping as he is busy with uni and then he is off on the 28th overseas for a while so it looks like I'm going to be working alone on this car for the next couple of months.

Any way, I've been messing around with lining up the front bumper and it's going to be more time consuming then first thought. All of the origional bumper suports we have are too rusty to use so I'm going to have to make up a new one.
Lining it up with one of the origional bumper supports that I was trying to repair, I had to line it up so I know where to weld the brackets on.
As you can see getting it right involves grabing what ever is lying around to prop it up at the right height and angle.
Posted Image
Posted Image

It was at this point I cracked the shits with it and decided I'll make up a new support from scratch.
Starting over, I seperated the two halfs of the bumper so it's a bit easier to handle
Posted Image

And some 100x50 C chanel that I had lying around that I'll use to make my support. I need to get some more cutting discs for both the grinder and drop saw before I can do any more.
Posted Image

Now onto the body, Ive just been working on the rear quaters to try and get them as smooth as I can, it's a bit time consuming.
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

And now with that done I have applied some primer filler that'll needed to be sanded down and to help check how straight it all is.
Posted Image
Posted Image

And thats about it at the moment, now it's time for a lot of sanding.

#4 Rat1314

Rat1314

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 108 posts
  • Location:Brisbane
  • Tagline:New Member

Posted 12 February 2012 - 10:03 PM

Some more work has been done.

Just finishing off some panel work, not quite finished yet but getting there.
Posted Image
Posted Image

And also got the old motor out today
Posted Image


I already had most of the engine ready to be pulled just had a couple of things left to undo.

Well time for an update, pictures do most the talking so here they are.

I thought I had some 'before and during' pics but I must have deleted them by accident but you get the point.
Posted Image

A bit of rust that was cut out
Posted Image
Posted Image

Me welding
Posted Image

Welding finished and welds smoothed out
Posted Image
Posted Image

Then we stripped all the paint from the engine bay
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

Painted the bay
Posted Image

Striped and painted the engine crossmember
Posted Image

And the brake booster
Posted Image

My fastener supplier is a 15min drive away and I couldn't be bothered going there for four nuts so I ended up cleaning these ones up, all the parts/hardware stores around here didn't have these exact nuts and since it holds in the crossmember I wasn't going to use a weaker nut. (I want to use all new hardware where i can in the engine bay)
Posted Image

And this is where I left it tonight, I started feeding all the wiring back through and mounting some of the components in the bay
Posted Image



#5 zzzzed

zzzzed

    The 2000+ club

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,691 posts
  • Location:south australia

Posted 13 February 2012 - 06:58 AM

Awesome good to see you have done some more since I last looked at it.

#6 garvice

garvice

    The 1000+ club

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,035 posts
  • Website:http://www.viczcar.com/forum/index.php/topic,9260.0.html
  • Location:Brisbane

Posted 13 February 2012 - 08:22 AM

Great to see that some people are willing to fix up a shell like that as it keeps a lot more alive. A lot of people would have said it was all too hard and just scrapped it and bought a nicer example (definitely the quicker way).

#7 RB30X

RB30X

    The 1000+ club

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,981 posts
  • Location:Gladstone QLD

Posted 13 February 2012 - 08:45 AM

Man!! where did you find these two ZX's, in the middle of a salt pan on a tropical island surrounded by ocean??

I hope these cars serve you well, because you've lost a lot of years restoring them.

#8 DatPilot

DatPilot

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 344 posts
  • Location:Australia
  • Tagline:you are a goose

Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:54 AM

Judging by the XXXX cans in both threads, I'd guess northern QLD?
If youre after anything Z31, Im about a week away from sending one to the scrappers....

#9 nizm0zed

nizm0zed

    The 1000+ club

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,310 posts
  • Location:Canberra
  • Tagline:260z coupe in slow build, Now with RB25DE powah!!

Posted 13 February 2012 - 11:10 AM

Brilliant!!!!!

I'll be watching this for sure.

You make stripping paint look so easy, some magic trick you would like to share with us?

#10 260DET

260DET

    The 2000+ club

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,147 posts
  • Location:Warwick
  • Tagline:Tribal Elder

Posted 13 February 2012 - 07:26 PM

A credit to your patience and persistence :)

#11 handsandwhich

handsandwhich

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 453 posts
  • Location:melbourne
  • Tagline:Huge Member

Posted 13 February 2012 - 09:26 PM

I applaud your persistence. Did I read right that after you put so much work into the first car, you ditched it and are using it as a parts car? I reckon I would be in tears.

And this is all for your future brother in law? You got any more single sisters available? I'd like to marry into your family as well :-*

Keep up the goodwork.



#12 Rat1314

Rat1314

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 108 posts
  • Location:Brisbane
  • Tagline:New Member

Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:40 PM

Awesome good to see you have done some more since I last looked at it.

Yea I've been plugging along at it but I haven't touched it for almost two weeks now, just needed some time away from it but I may venture out to the garage and do some more work.

Man!! where did you find these two ZX's, in the middle of a salt pan on a tropical island surrounded by ocean??

I hope these cars serve you well, because you've lost a lot of years restoring them.

Yea the blue car was quite bad, didn't seem that way when we bought it. But the grey car really wasn't that bad, when you go looking for rust on a old car you will find some.

Judging by the XXXX cans in both threads, I'd guess northern QLD?
If youre after anything Z31, Im about a week away from sending one to the scrappers....


They're cans of VB Gold not XXXX. Let me know what Z31 stuff you got before getting rid of it, I might be interested.

Brilliant!!!!!

I'll be watching this for sure.

You make stripping paint look so easy, some magic trick you would like to share with us?


No trick, just wire wheels and strip it discs on a grinder, oh and I used a paint stripper for the engine bay (that was a messy job)

A credit to your patience and persistence :)


Thank you, I'd still like to see your car one day.

I applaud your persistence. Did I read right that after you put so much work into the first car, you ditched it and are using it as a parts car? I reckon I would be in tears.

And this is all for your future brother in law? You got any more single sisters available? I'd like to marry into your family as well :-*

Keep up the goodwork.



Yea after all the work on the first car we did decide to use it as a parts car but it was a good learning experience. Michael is now my brother in-law, I've been married for 2 years in June (we had my car at the wedding). And yes I do have a sister who is single

#13 imackz

imackz

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 239 posts
  • Location:Melbourne
  • Tagline:v8 into a 280zx makes 450zx

Posted 14 February 2012 - 12:45 AM

Nice work and nice photos

#14 RB30X

RB30X

    The 1000+ club

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,981 posts
  • Location:Gladstone QLD

Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:41 AM

They're cans of VB Gold not XXXX.


So you're from the northen territory then ;D

#15 Lurch ™

Lurch ™

    Curator of the 'Gavin Collection'

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,602 posts
  • Location:Victoria
  • Tagline:In my Den of Rust & Sin

Posted 14 February 2012 - 12:03 PM

Farkkk...

I admire your persistence guys, but I even I would have found a better shell...!

#16 luvemfast

luvemfast

    The 2000+ club

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,124 posts
  • Location:Melbourne

Posted 14 February 2012 - 08:34 PM

Great to see that guys are prepared to spend the time and effort, on what was once classified as not worth it.
280ZX's are really starting to gain a cult following. And some respect.
Your efforts are inspirational.
Looking forwards to seeing your projects progress.

#17 Rat1314

Rat1314

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 108 posts
  • Location:Brisbane
  • Tagline:New Member

Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:29 PM

Nice work and nice photos


Thanks

So you're from the northen territory then ;D


Actually I was born in Victoria and raised in WA, you've been wrong twice now  :D

Farkkk...

I admire your persistence guys, but I even I would have found a better shell...!


The second one really isn't that bad we are just being thorough and also given the budget is between f**k all and nothing for a car I think we are doing quite well so far. In a ideal world we would like to have a perfect shell to start with but we are being realistic here.

Great to see that guys are prepared to spend the time and effort, on what was once classified as not worth it.
280ZX's are really starting to gain a cult following. And some respect.
Your efforts are inspirational.
Looking forwards to seeing your projects progress.


Thanks for the kind words. If I get the time I'll get some more work done on the car soon

#18 Rat1314

Rat1314

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 108 posts
  • Location:Brisbane
  • Tagline:New Member

Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:10 PM

Been a little while, had to go looking for my thread. Anyway, I have been a bit busy lately. Been doing a fair bit more riding over the past few months and that means more work on the bikes, trailer, cars and the list goes on. Might try and get some more work done on this now as I'm itching to start working on my car again but I don't want or have the room to work on two cars. Onto the pictures, that's what your here for isn't it?

What my garage has been looking like lately
Posted Image

Finished off the inside of the rear hatch, the bracket is welded back on and primed
Posted Image

Also finished this section and it's all primed
Posted Image
Posted Image

Done a few touch ups around the body, just about finished them all
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

Haven't done too much work with this at the moment but I cleaned it all up so it's ready to go
Posted Image
Posted Image

I have done a bit of work on the side skirts, well just one at the moment, first one takes the longest time.
Just cut down to a 'rough' legnth
Posted Image

Eyeing up what needs to be done
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

And this is one skirt trimmed to fit, just need to do the same to the other one then finish them off.
Posted Image

#19 zzzzed

zzzzed

    The 2000+ club

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,691 posts
  • Location:south australia

Posted 26 May 2012 - 08:13 AM

Nice work. I wonder how the clubsport skirt flares would look

#20 Rat1314

Rat1314

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 108 posts
  • Location:Brisbane
  • Tagline:New Member

Posted 26 May 2012 - 10:01 AM

Might have to have a look and see what their worth. We haven't thought about flairs for it.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users