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Probably gone for ever from here, but if not, ditch the gm253 idea, a mate up here has a BL all alloy 4.4 v8 complete ready to go, just come out of a very rusty body 260, so it has the modded sump and all mounts ready for your project, chasin around $1000 plus freight to ypu in Adelaide.

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well I guess some people just cant take constructive criticism.. I probably would have been grateful that some one was warning me i was about to take a backwards step. Even if he did find it a rather amusing prospect.

A stock l28 isnt going to cost $5000.. more like $400 for a good runner that will bolt right in.. Personaly i would sell the 253 and use the money to buy an l28. but if you are after the v8 noise just go the 253. but be warned they are more noise than go

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talking about a fresh L28 because that is what was being compared too!! Anyway not trying to cause problems here but just chucking in my 2c worth!!

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THE CAR CAN NOT BE REGESTED IT IS GOING TO BE A BURNOUT CAR AND I DONT HAVE $$$$ LIKE YOU GUYS TO SPEND ON MY CAR!!!

 

This is fantastic info which 'if included' in your first post would have changed most, if not all of our responses.

 

Good luck.

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This is fantastic info which 'if included' in your first post would have changed most, if not all of our responses.

 

Good luck.

 

A most elequent observation for your 1500th post, well said.

 

"Where is that Karma button when you need it"

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IF and it is a big IF, we had a section on here titled "Pool Room" ie as in the movie The Castle, this thread would qualify for inclusion., and be honoured in post-erity! Roflmao a lot!

 

 

How'bout it!!!

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  well mmm i am sorry for the comment i don't normally stop and say things like that so sorry for that i am a better person than that and i have retracted the moron comment .... people that know me no i will go out of my way to help with no thort to my  cost, i don't say things to look or feel good i help people because it the right thing to do so .... sorry if i offended you  peter MC

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thanks 4 the info link and the other guys that stuck up for me!

the rest of u are up urselfs with to much $$$ and i should have to explane the ins and outs bout my car to u guys should just be nice and not negative!

maby u negative faggets should by me a 3 or $4000 motor if not well shut ur mouths

 

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You only get what YOU pay for. Me, I started with a $1900 280zx. As the bug kicked in I found money to build my car - its not registered and never will be, but now owes me probably $30k. Shit theres $10k in brakes and oil system alone. Am I rich? HELL NO!

I am now 39 years old and its only in the last 5 years that I have been able to afford to indulge my car passion.

As someone previously said, do your engineering and have fun with your 253. If or when you blow it up replace with a 308 and if you can find a cheap one get a 355 stroker (a friend just got one for $800).

The reason everyone had a shot is they were trying to guide you to get the best bang for your buck. Often the easy bit is the motor, the other bits add up and if you have to do it twice it costs you twice.

Remember you still have to do your gearbox mount, figure out a clutch and master cylinder, engineer a tailshaft, a loop for your shaft, extractors and exhaust etc etc.

Personally I don't really do burnout cars although my track toy would be outstanding at the job. The reason everyone we having a shot is that it will get more expensive than you plan so a L28 with less engineering is an easy option, easy power is from a LS1 (my track toy was a $1000 motor witha cam and springs and was at 400hp atw before I blew it up).

On another manners note, there really is some nice people here with a abundance of info. Some have bigger budgets than us all, others do all their own work over time. The old 253 boat anchor bit got you going I can see, but don't let a bit of stirring get to you.

Oh and my track toy runs a CIG locker (welded up R200 diff). Good cheap way of doing it if your still going ahead. Mines lasted 1.5 years with regular oil changes.

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Nancy boys,

 

Yup, I'm a Nancy boy, who's worked hard and has done it hard all my life for what I have, and "Mary" you don't know how hard so when you go off flapping your mouth like you just have after one of the most respected guys on this forum reached out with an apology, you don't have any street cred what so ever any longer, so why don't you get your non registered heap running with that boat anchor you have and drive down here from whatever truck stop you inhabit between here and Perth and meet some of us Nancy boys.

 

If you want to destroy a Zed by turning it into a burn out wagon, well I doubt you will find anyone here who will support your cause, do everyone a favour and let it find a new home the go out an buy yourself a bogan Gemini and drop the anchor into it, should be a lot more fun and keep you within your budget.

 

 

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thanks 4 the info link and the other guys that stuck up for me!

the rest of u are up urselfs with to much $$$ and i should have to explane the ins and outs bout my car to u guys should just be nice and not negative!

maby u negative nancy boygets should by me a 3 or $4000 motor if not well shut ur mouths

 

 

you have lost any respect i had for you now!! people apologised for remarks and your still going!! good luck with your project!!

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Let the dude do as he pleases.

He asked the question.

Didn't like the answer.

Will do whatever he wants.

Everyone can just get over it.

 

To the original poster. (I haven't even bothered to learn your username)

Just don't ask anymore questions.

Clearly we don't know WTF we're talking about.  ::)

 

Coming from the richest man you'll never know!

 

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Let the dude do as he pleases.

He asked the question.

Didn't like the answer.

Will do whatever he wants.

Everyone can just get over it.

 

To the original poster. (I haven't even bothered to learn your username)

Just don't ask anymore questions.

Clearly we don't know WTF we're talking about.  ::)

 

Coming from the richest man you'll never know!

 

lols ;D

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Obviously swapping in a tired old v8 is false economy and having to engineer it is a waste of time when you can put an L28 in for much less and find bolt on mods i.e extractors, carbs, electronic ignition etc.. which will probably produce more power and less headaches.

 

THE CAR CAN NOT BE REGESTED IT IS GOING TO BE A BURNOUT CAR AND I DONT HAVE $$$$ LIKE YOU GUYS TO SPEND ON MY CAR!!!

JUST ASKING FOR ADVISE NOT SMART ARSES WITH BIG HEADS THINKING THERE KING DIKS!

 

So you have money to burn literally on destroying tyres, driveshafts, axles etc.. but don't want to spend a few dollars on a good motor?

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I can hear the popcorn 'pop' from this side of the ocean! Bwahahahah

Wisdom is one of those things that when we reject it rarely do we find success, instead we clothe ourselves with regret!

Rev.

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I had never considered a 253 for my zed.....until I read this post. Now I must have one. You guys have sold me on the idea. Who says the 253 doesn't produce much power. All it needs is a boiler to capture all the power from the steam and hot air produced from this thread.  ::)

 

I do agree the advice given in the thread was accurate and appropriate. However I think the tone was a bit over the top in places. My manager provides feedback with this sort of tone hence why I am moving to another job.

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I can hear the popcorn 'pop' from this side of the ocean! Bwahahahah

 

Due to popular demand I give you....

 

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one thing to consider is the sump. what do they do with chev conversions? there are 3 factory sumps for the holden motor. the front hump on commodores, the rear hump on HQ-WB, and the pre-HQ had a centre hump. so plan accordingly.

 

 

i went and did a little research on power too. it is a bit difficult to compare accurately, due to some ratings being gross and some net etc, but it is plain to see that 253 has as much power as the L28 and considerably more torque at lower rpm.

 

 

 

MQ Patrol 80-87 L28 (from my service manual, single carb)

Power: 118 Hp (88 kW) at 4800rpm (DIN)

Torque: 147 lb-ft (200 Nm) @ 3200rpm (DIN)

 

Net HP Gross HP

240Z 121 151

260Z 130 162

280Z 75-78 136 170

280ZX NA 79-83 145 182

(from wikipedia 280zx page)

 

 

HQ 71-74 253

Power: 185bhp (138kw) at 4400rpm

Torque: 262lb-ft (355Nm) at 2400rpm

 

HZ 77-80 253

Power: 161bhp (120kw) at 4550rpm

Torque: 240lb-ft (325Nm) at 2600rpm

 

VH 81-84 253

Power: 100kw at 4200rpm (115kw at 4400rpm when dual exhaust fitted)

Torque: 269Nm at 2000rpm (289Nm at 3200 when dual exhaust fitted)

(all from uniquecarsandparts.com.au)

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If and when you do get it running, just be carefull your flanelette shirt does't get caught in the fanbelt... Might be better off with a VN crummydore for a burnout car..cheap and plentifull...

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what eva guys thanks for the help and advice yes i was a bit rude but i didn't like some of the shit pple write. i know what the l28 motor goes like as I've had another 260z in the past but i sold it as it was a rust bucket witch i sadly regret. I have always wonted a nice standout burnout car and i cum across this 260z with no motor and it cant be resisted and I've got a old 253 sitting there so i thought i would put that in there for a burnout car. Theres Heep's more i would like to to to it like an Rb25 for a track or drift car but i just cant afford it as I'm a young guy with a family house so just cant afford it. i would like so help with couple of things.

sorry for my nasty comments if could start of fresh again would be great

thanks

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good come back kid  ill try and Help if you ask ... try give as much detail with you problem so we can help ... just remember we all ant rich and all of us work real hard to get by to play with our zeds that we love

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