Which Race Seat?
Posted 15 March 2009 - 07:13 PM
so I thought I'd ask what fixed back, bucket race seats people reccommend?
Bare in mind they must be 'reasonably' priced, be CAMS/FIA approved and be narrow enough to fit in the Zed.
Sco_Aus reckons OMP Daytona's are crap because they fall apart, so who else has had experience with race seats?
Posted 15 March 2009 - 07:18 PM
Take a look at Cobra Cub or Broder they might suit your needs
Posted 15 March 2009 - 09:44 PM
They are crap, they do fall apart, and they sit too high.
I suspect most of the OBX range will be the same.
I had some Cobra fixed buckets for a while in a DD several years ago, otehr than being impractical for a DD they were very comfortable, and lasted very well.
Posted 16 March 2009 - 07:48 AM
I've been using Velo seats for almost 10 years now and they have faired pretty well. The only major wear I've seen is where the harness goes through the holes in the back. My drivers seat has changed hands 3 times and has come back to me mind you! I'd recommend Velo if you can find them at a good price; on sale etc or second hand at GMP in Oakliegh South.
Posted 16 March 2009 - 07:49 AM
Two seats I have used in my Z are an RPM seat, now being replaced, and a Sparco.
The RPM seat was not a bad seat for the price, narrow enough to fit in the Z, but ended up offset to the left to clear the cage. Seat is comfortable and offers plenty of support for circuit work, but would be very uncomfortable for use as a daily.
The other seat I am using is a Sparco Evo. again should fit, but will be offset to cleat the cage. Seems to be more comfortbale than the RPM seat and offers a bit more support and seems to be a better construction.
The Sparco is FIA approved which means no hassles at all with any scrutineer when they see the sticker. Also means you know the standard of construction and that it should protect you in the case of a prang. Most of the better quality seats are FIA approved anyway so shouldn't be a problem in finding one.
Also, personally I would avoid buying second hand as you can't be 100% sure of the history of the seat and whether it has been fitted incorrectly, been in a prang, or been abused in other ways, eg solvents on it and so on that may wekaen the structure.
As for price, get the best you can afford and don't scrimp, same as harnesses. The seat and harness do a pretty important job in the event of the unthinkable.
Personally I spend as much as I can afford on the safety side of the car.
The Sparco seat on got when Revolution Racegear had a clearence a coupleof years ago, so I would wait til June/ July when they have their sales and pick up a demo or superceded model for about $5-600 per seat.
Posted 16 March 2009 - 09:24 AM
Posted 16 March 2009 - 10:05 AM
Alrighty, these seats are scoring a really good name atm in a lot of race scenes. Reason being, they went out of their way to ensure that most of their range were ADR approved and FIA or either one. So not only are they safe, you dont need to try and convince a engineer or RTA/Vic Roads etc. a friend of mine has just gone through this with his Sparco. Because it only had FIA and not ADR, the ACT rego people were being dousche bags because ADR use a different testing system. ummm hello, if its been approved to be in a F1 car, i think someones corolla will be fine...
Anyways, I hear they are good quality and they seem to have a good range. Check em out.
Posted 16 March 2009 - 11:58 AM
Posted 16 March 2009 - 02:55 PM
Posted 16 March 2009 - 07:04 PM
I find Sparcos to be pretty good for me, although most are a bit too wide. I'm told there is a narrower model, but I'm yet to come across one to try. The more expensive Cobra seats I tend to find curve far too much in the backrest, and make me feel like the hunchback of Notre Dame - downright uncomfortable for me.
The best seat I've sat in though is actually a Recaro Racer SPG. Unfortunately, they aren't made anymore, and when they were made they cost $2500+. However, for me its spot on in the width across the bum, width across the shoulders, and the angle at which the base comes up at the front (also the depth of the actual seat). The other nice thing about it was that even though it had the side supports for your helmeted head, you could actually still see out the back corner of the car through them.
At the moment, I'm sticking with my 10-15 year old OMP seat I picked up cheap, its actually a little more comfortable than a lot of the mid range Sparcos I've sat in, and its PRETTY close on the width. Its far more comfortable than the standard seat, to the point it resides permanently in my daily driver Alfa.
Personally, I'm going to take a bit more of a look at the midrange Recaros (without the wings on the side), and see if I can find a narrower Sparco. Those are probably my top two at this stage, although I'd be interested to see how the Velo seats feel... I suspect they may be sized for persons with a normal sized ass (unlike my narrow self). Probably like to take a quick sit in the new OMP seats too...
Two things I'd say when you are looking though - look in the midrange pricing of the seats (usually the models just below the ones with head restraints). I tend to find the entry level seats from all the manufacturers pretty ordinary. The other thing is try putting some of those velcro pads they sell in any areas that are uncomfortable. That's one of the things that makes my OMP so comfortable - a big velcro pad right in the small of my back. You may even be able to make the back of the seat narrower with clever placement, if you have the same issue with getting a seat that's narrow enough that I do.
Posted 16 March 2009 - 10:51 PM
Posted 17 March 2009 - 07:35 AM
Posted 17 March 2009 - 08:41 AM
FWIW I'm 80kgs & 6'4 (196cm), so for that fact alone I need to find a tall seat with a narrow base for my 'petite' arse
It looks like a Sparco or Velo might be the go, so when I need the seat I'll head down to a couple of the race shops & see whats suitable.
A couple of other thing's I'll be doing is lowering the original seat mounts on the floor so I can get the seat low enough.
Also, I'll be fitting a cage, so the seat clearing that will also have to come into consideration.
Hrmmm... Much to think about!
Posted 17 March 2009 - 11:48 AM
Posted 17 March 2009 - 12:24 PM
These will mainly be side mounts and will take a bit of fiddling to get the seat where you want it.
What type of cage are you looking at, 4 point, 6 point, 6 point with intrusion bars? The main concern for clearance will be the intrucion bar design. My intrusion bars are just above the sill, so aren't to bad with interfering the seat. A more traditional angles bar would cause more problems for the seat and for me getting in and out.
Posted 17 March 2009 - 12:57 PM
My problem is being so tall & trying to get the seat back as far as possible WITH a cage in there too.
I think I'm still going to have to mod the seat mounts on the floor of the Zed to get me low enough with a helmet on (it'll see some track time).
I'm going to be fitting a 6pt welded in cage - maybe tower to tower.
I'll get a kit from Bond in NSW, that way I can adjust it to suit my needs.
It's going to be a road car so I won't be fitting door bars (yet).
Posted 17 March 2009 - 01:28 PM
I'm 6'1" and 110kg so need plenty of room, but can fit quite easily with the seat as it is mounted now to the floor. In fact the seat is a little too far back, about 1/2" to 1" so it's a bit of a stretch to get full throttle, but everything else falls to hand nicely, plus not many others can drive the car which is always a good thing
As for the cage, I'd look at Brown Davis, closer to you than Bonds. Also I know of a couple of cars where their roll bars didn't fit and took a fair bit of work to make fit. At one stage the doors couldn't be closed.
If your going to log book the car as well then you will also have to make sure that the cage can be certified if you install yourself.
Posted 17 March 2009 - 01:58 PM
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