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#21 Lurch ™

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 11:35 PM

Cheers for that NZeder - that gave me the answer I wanted ;D

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 12:08 PM

For that are interested here is a thread on hybridz that shows some of the 17x8.5 +4 installed on a 280z (aka 260z with ugly bumpers) also looking the pictures looks to have stock standard suspension ie 4x4 look
http://forums.hybrid...ad.php?t=136846


Dunno, but the guy says they are RB-Rs and to me they look like the banana spokes you said were the RBs. 


Maybe it is all in the offset, changing the spoke shape not the thickness of the mounting flange.

Even on this website I am darned if I can see much difference between RBs and RB-Rs. http://www.rotawheel.com/rb1.htm

I would like to see pics of the actual wheels on offer before making a final decision.

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 01:50 PM

Hi Guys, Don't know if you can take it as gospel but the only info I could find regarding the difference between the RB and the RBR series is that the RBR is for rear wheel drive fitment. They have a lower offset than the RB and a bigger lip. Apparently made for drifters. This came from an American webpage. Regards David.

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 06:41 PM

Having owned both RB and RB-R not in the 17" but I believe what has been stated is correct the difference is the bit behind the spoke. This change in mounting face changes the shape of the spoke. The RBs have a thick mounting flange ie the wheels nuts are much much deeper into the mag where as the RB-R the wheel nuts down sink into the mag and stick out a little.

I could not install the centre caps on the RB-Rs on the fronts as the bearing cap would not allow it. I had the RB-R 16x8 +10 - I have posted pictures on this site before please search and you will see them. The 17" versions look to be different again and this does not surprise me remember each new rim size = new casting and the manufacture can change the spoke between each different rim size ie 16" the spoke is not a long as the 17" so maybe the longer spoke then start to curve again? I don't know I can only tell you that the 16x8 RB-R had a flat looking spoke and again go back to the first post I put in this thread to see the attachments.

Also if you check the attachments in my post you will see both have about the same amount of lip (and I can confirm they are the same) So with the flange thicker at the back the spoke must curve more to result in the same lip for the same width rim. Again this is clearly shown in the attachments I posted. So I believe the curve of the spoke is related to the width of the rim, style ie RB or RB-R and the lip. I believe the 17" version were requested with more LIP therefore more curve.

I think it is best to wait and see what Ben finds out from the manufacture - however give the pictures on the web ie at hybridz.org you can see the shape and style from what others have already purchased. So with that in mind I have a few different shots/angles of the RB-R in 16x8 +10 that I had installed on my 240z before I sold it. I am happy to put these up on my website if there is enough demand.

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 07:29 PM

The RBs have a thick mounting flange ie the wheels nuts are much much deeper into the mag where as the RB-R the wheel nuts down sink into the mag and stick out a little.

............I can only tell you that the 16x8 RB-R had a flat looking spoke and again go back to the first post I put in this thread to see the attachments.

Also if you check the attachments in my post you will see both have about the same amount of lip (and I can confirm they are the same) So with the flange thicker at the back the spoke must curve more to result in the same lip for the same width rim. Again this is clearly shown in the attachments I posted. So I believe the curve of the spoke is related to the width of the rim, style ie RB or RB-R and the lip. I believe the 17" version were requested with more LIP therefore more curve.


Thanks, NZeder, but the pics are what has caused all this confusion. The first pic you posted is rather misleading. On closer examination I believe both wheels are RB-Rs, as they both have the thick mounting flange you say belongs to RB-Rs (although the one on the right appears thinner bacause it has about 10mm of it painted black)

The wheel on the right, which you say is the RB-R, clearly has a different offset, diameter and rim width to the other one. If I had to guess, I'd say one is a 16x8 and the other 17x9.5.  The different offsets would account for the fact that the flange on the narrow rim is further off the floor that the wider rim, so must have more positive offset. The difference in spoke shape must therefore come from the offsets and wheel diameter. More positive offset pushing the mounting flange out - more curve in the spoke. Lower offset number: flange further in - flatter, or more angled spoke. Plus, larger diameter: longer, flatter spoke.

I think it is best to wait and see what Ben finds out from the manufacture


Agreed. Let's wait.



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Posted 28 July 2008 - 11:14 AM

Ok, I've heard back from the factory:

"The RBR shape is for the 17x9.5 and 17x9.0 RBs which have deeper lips.  For the other sizes, it would still be the RB design"


I have added some 17x9 -13 wheels to my order for those who want to run big fronts too.
When the wheels arrive I will post up photos of every size I have to clear up any remaining confusion  :)


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Posted 28 July 2008 - 11:17 AM

Do the 17's 8.5" fit on the rear with out flares?

I'm after 17's but not keen on the flares


I have 16x8.5 +5 wheels on the back of my Zed which fit perfectly with a slight lipping of the standard guards, so yes the 17x8.5 +4 should fit on the rear.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 11:20 AM

I'm keen.  I'll need 17s once I fit the Wilwoods : 305mm rotors so these should do the trick. 

Put me down for a staggered set of 17x8.5 and 17x9.5  8)

Also, do you have a pic of the 'steel grey' finish e.g. is it like the wheels in Toecutter's post, or is it lighter?

Cheers.



Here's another wheel with the steel grey finish

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 12:48 PM


can you get those wheels to fit with flares

in 17x8.5 and 17x9.5 for the rear??

in the bronze color??

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 03:25 PM

can you get those wheels to fit with flares

in 17x8.5 and 17x9.5 for the rear??

in the bronze color??


Please refer to the original post, I have only one colour coming.
To fill out flares at the front you would need a 15 or 20mm spacer. It would be easier to use the 17x9 -13 size.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 04:58 PM

Thanks, NZeder, but the pics are what has caused all this confusion. The first pic you posted is rather misleading. On closer examination I believe both wheels are RB-Rs, as they both have the thick mounting flange you say belongs to RB-Rs (although the one on the right appears thinner bacause it has about 10mm of it painted black)

The wheel on the right, which you say is the RB-R, clearly has a different offset, diameter and rim width to the other one. If I had to guess, I'd say one is a 16x8 and the other 17x9.5.  The different offsets would account for the fact that the flange on the narrow rim is further off the floor that the wider rim, so must have more positive offset. The difference in spoke shape must therefore come from the offsets and wheel diameter. More positive offset pushing the mounting flange out - more curve in the spoke. Lower offset number: flange further in - flatter, or more angled spoke. Plus, larger diameter: longer, flatter spoke.

Agreed. Let's wait.


If you are referring to this pic
http://www.viczcar.c...tach=3412;image
Then this was not posted by me. And I believe this is a shot of the 15x8 RB with a 16x8 RB-R. These are the same rims I purchased and posted here
http://www.viczcar.c...9.html#msg21549
Maybe this will help clear it up for you. Pic of 15x8 RB from the inside showing the thicker mounting flange.

And if you look at the attachments in my first post = this one http://www.viczcar.c...9.html#msg21549
you will see that on the silver ones = 15x8 RB's you can't see the wheel studs but on the 16x8 RB-R the hyper black ones you can = flange is different and you can see the difference in the spokes between these. Also look the bearing cap there is a major difference between the two pics I posted. So I think when looking at Rota RB or RB-R look at the fronts and the bearing cap or wheel studs this should tell you if you are looking at a RB or RB-R.

I hope that helps clear up some of the confusion. Also the RB-R are not available in 15's from what I can tell. The RB-R are in 16, and now 17's along with RB in these sizes too.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:18 PM

Here's another wheel with the steel grey finish


was talkin about these wheels

can u get them to suite zg flares in bronze

peter

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 07:49 PM

Can these wheels be powder coated??????????

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 04:26 PM

Can these wheels be powder coated??????????


Yes they can. If need be we can supply them coated at additional cost.

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 07:27 PM


what additional cost???

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 07:42 PM

Can you get the lips annodiesed excuse the spelling.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 12:45 PM

what additional cost???


$120 for the full set. Non-metallic colours only


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Posted 30 July 2008 - 12:46 PM

Can you get the lips annodiesed excuse the spelling.



Sorry, no we can't anodise them

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 06:00 PM

The RB-R proof wheels have arrived in the U.S. just wondering how long before they are available here??

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 03:13 PM

In the future will these be avaliable in chrome perhaps? I think there would be a market for them...




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