2009 Nissan/Datsun Nationals held in QLD
Posted 21 April 2009 - 03:31 PM
This event has evolved from the "Zed" Nationals of the 1990's (first hosted by the QLD Z club in 1991) to the first "all in" Nationals hosted by the NDSOC in 2001, since then it has included all marques of Nissan/Datsuns with the focus on Zeds. Zed clubs in QLD and Sydney have now realised that it is not financially viable to have a Zed only event that includes a track day due to the huge cost. Economies of scale dictate that we now include other marques to boost the numbers (and variety).........and yes there are rumours that this event "may return" to a Zed only event in 2011 as is the wish of a few "hard liners" in the various Zed clubs. The handover to the Sydney Z club was not received too well by some as there was no clear mention of the format of the 2011 event as it was mentioned as a Zed only event until questions were asked.....it was then pointed out that all marques would be invited.
As such I believe the common sense will prevail and 2011 will also be run under the same format as the past events. (all cars welcome)
The NDSOC 2001 nationals event held in Sheparton was the first "all welcome event" and was a huge success with over 100 cars, this in contrast was boosted to over 200 cars for the 2007 Phillip Island event ....(a P.I track day alone cost $15000 to run) .....as such entry fees are kept as low as possible to make it as affordable for all. I did not count all the cars at the Show n Shine in Warwick but I'm sure it exceeded 200 cars.
If 2011 reverts to a Zed only event, I believe the numbers will suffer (at most 50-60 Zeds from past history) which will make the entry fees out of reach of most......IMHO
Posted 21 April 2009 - 06:22 PM
i think its a simple idea.. nissans and datsuns.. in one meet.. they are the same brand arnt they? but i guess you have to bring the politics into it too..
either way.. i thought it was an awesome event.. i enjoyed the datsun's.. of all walks.. and the nissans of all walks.. id go back again if it was that format.
lets hope it comes back to queensland!
Posted 21 April 2009 - 06:50 PM
BTW, who is organizing the Sydney Nationals? SDC or the Sydney Zed club?
I've been hearing very strong rumors of a Zed only event...
The Sydney Club's presentation at the last evening's dinner showed very strongly that it will be a "Z" only event. Categories on the slideshow went something like
240Z, 260Z, 280ZX, Z31, Z32, 350Z
Don't know were my 1600 fits in there ? When asked the question on the night, the presentor mumbled something about it not being finalised, we may have to invite others, and various other things that made non-zed owners feel very welcome indeed Plenty of other zed websites have had posts outlining the "zed-only" nature of the Sydney event.
If it does indeed pan out to be a zed only event, I guess someone else (SDC ?) will have to step up and organise an event suitable for all representatives of the Nissan / Datsun marques (including zeds ).
Will be a shame if it does end up being a downgraded zed-only event as the last few have been great, some people have had complaints about some aspects of them but as mentioned you can't please everyone all the time . The succes of the event overall surely outweighs a few minor quibbles about individual details ?
To me, its all about the variety of machinery (and people) - the social side is just as important as the competitive side. You want a track day ? - there's plenty to attend that you roll up to, compete, and go home. Want to spend a weekend away in the company of a few hundred other like-minded enthusiasts, the nationals is it .
Posted 21 April 2009 - 08:44 PM
I think I'll stick to the forums too
Greg you're addicted to AusZcar already.
Posted 21 April 2009 - 09:54 PM
Now this is just a personal thing for me, so nobody get upset. However I am far more interested in the early Datsun's than I am in the later Z series. Eg: Z31 / Z32 300zx. To me the Nissan / Datsun nationals in 2005 (I missed 2007 and 2009 because I have been MIA) was great with the early Datsun's and Nissans, there was also the later R32's / R34s and 300zx's but there was absolutely nothing wrong with that event.
I have no idea on the award side of things because I haven't entered my car in any of these events. I imagine it would only be fair to have categories for each make / model where there were enough numbers.
Posted 22 April 2009 - 09:06 AM
I have been to a few Victorian Nationals before and found them to be OK. Like everyone says you will never please everyone and unfortunately the focus or energies often go towards the minority of whingers when really the big picture should be the main focus.
Posted 17 September 2009 - 11:44 AM
Posted 17 September 2009 - 02:18 PM
Im working to get my 260z there for the next one
Posted 25 December 2009 - 05:09 PM
In my experience, and I have some, getting actively involved in projects like organising a Nationals can be a useful part of one's personal development. Some of the crap that can go on may be daunting but then so can life, nothing new or particularly unusual there.
The thing that pisses me off the most is people who latch on to events like the Nationals and try to exploit them for their own purposes, without contributing in the first place.
Posted 26 December 2009 - 10:41 AM
Very much agree.
Especially when the lack of contribution then becomes exploitation, and the lack of willingness to at least attempt to comply with written supp regs that everyone that attends is able to quite easily achieve.
I did enjoy my involvement in the 2009 event, and would not mind being involved again in the future, all politics aside.
When a great bunch of people set their minds to it, good things do happen, and did!
At leasrt track hire at Morgan Park Qld, and Wakefield NSW ( for 2011) is a bit less costly than PI.
I have had info that the "Second Organiser" of the Original Classic Jap Show in Qld has secured Lakeside raceway in 2010, September??
And now we have some other "classic" jap show being organised.
( Awards for the most chromed dipstick will be presented)
Just watch, before too long it will all implode, if it hasnt almost done so, and we will revert back to a proper Nationals type event.
Posted 27 December 2009 - 07:47 PM
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