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#1 specialp3

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Posted 25 October 2016 - 07:09 PM

Looking for an NOS or very clean unmarked drivers door glass in the US blue tint colour.

 

Can anybody help.

 

Happy to pay good money ($1000+) as all the glass I have is NOS except the drivers door.

 

Same part number as the image attached even better.

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Posted 25 October 2016 - 07:26 PM

in the US blue tint colour.

Sorry I can't help. But for what year, or were they all the same profile & bolting pattern?

Slightly off topic, but did the Aus-new cars not all get the blue tint?


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Posted 26 October 2016 - 11:21 AM

All 240z's have the same glass profile etc.

 

From my understanding all Aus cars have clear glass.

 

When the tinted glass is in the car it is very different to the clear.

 

I will try to post an image.



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Posted 26 October 2016 - 06:25 PM

I know what it looks like, my early-74 260 has blue tint. But then it was NZ-new. Yes the blue does look different, clear glass if anything has a slight green hue.

So where has your car come from that it has the blue tint?



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Posted 01 November 2016 - 04:20 PM

It is an Australian delivered car but has been restored with mostly NOS parts. I could not find new clear glass at the time. 

 

I prefer the look of the blue tint and have been able to find NOS except the drivers door.

 

Does anybody know where I might find the glass I need ???

 

Warren (all z) had an NOS drivers side glass many years ago and sold it to someone in QLD, foolishly I did not buy it. 6 months later I came across all NOS glass except the the drivers.

 

Since then I have bought every NOS part I have come across.


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Posted 01 November 2016 - 07:28 PM

I agree that the blue tint looks better.

Have you got the blue windscreen as well?

Seems lucky you have found NOS blue tint at all when you say it wasn't generally used on Aus-spec 240Zs.

Or was it spare stock for 260Z 2-seaters - did the Aus-spec 260Z 2-seaters get blue, like NZ cars did?

If so do the 240 & 260 2-seater use the same bolting pattern; I've noticed variations in 2+2 glass on eBay & Gumtree hence my question.

If you can just find a good used blue window without deep scratches & have it polished.....



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Posted 01 November 2016 - 08:34 PM

I can recall, as a youngster, my father, and my uncles, having quite a few USA left hand drive cars, including Pontiac GTO, Buick Skylark, Caddy Eldorado, Mustamgs, AMC-AMX, Corvettes, all had the blueish tint to windows along with the blue fading top of windscreen band.
Must be a USA thing!

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Posted 02 November 2016 - 01:36 PM

The glass tint, or alternatively just the tint band at top of windscreen, were both available options in lieu of plain clear glass spec at the time my early Mustangs were built.

I can't imagine why Aus-new 240Zs would have been generally spec'd with clear glass, for a country with this much sunlight?


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Posted 02 November 2016 - 02:46 PM

Blue glass wasn't "in" yet

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Posted 02 November 2016 - 08:16 PM

Like stepping back in time.....



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Posted 08 November 2016 - 06:56 PM

All the glass I found was from Japan.

 

I am very confident that 240/260 2 seaters have the same bolting pattern.

 

A few years ago I purchased the glass from a US 280z 2 seater and it does not work with the 240. Exactly the same shape but the holes in the bottom of the door glass are in different position.



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Posted 09 November 2016 - 01:34 AM

I can try and help find a good blue tinted glass in the US for you, I have a contact in SFO who helps me locate parts. I have been wanting to get early S30z vertical defrost glass. Only concern with shipping is breakage. But my contact is pretty good with packaging things up so they don't get damaged.

I have also been looking at importing whole cars and bulk panel shipments also. Which might be a better way to transport glass.

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 01:35 PM

 

A few years ago I purchased the glass from a US 280z 2 seater and it does not work with the 240. Exactly the same shape but the holes in the bottom of the door glass are in different position.

 

I can try and help find a good blue tinted glass in the US for you,

If Specialp3 is correct though then only a 260Z glass will fit his 240. And the 260 was a one-year only model in the USA.

But if there was a change in the bolting pattern for whatever reason then I suspect it was done part-way through the 260 & 280Z production years.

Toughened glass can't be altered, but maybe the mounting bracket can be?

 

Specialp3, have you touched base with the NZ Datsun Z Club? NZ has a variety of 240/260/280/2+2 Zeds, some sold NZ-new, but many others are used car imports from Australia, the UK, Nth America, Japan, Asia, wherever, often brought in by returning expats. It shouldn't be impossible to find a blue-tint door glass, I could be wrong but my impression when I was a club member there - many years ago now - was that clear glass was less common in club cars than blue-tint. Worth a try, or check out TradeMe.com the NZ equivalent to eBay.


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Posted 10 November 2016 - 10:10 AM

Do you have any photos of this blue tint difference between a normal (non blue tint) and a blue tint glass?



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Posted 10 November 2016 - 07:30 PM

It's subtle, but you can see the difference when you put a blue tint beside a clear (which if anything has a very slight green tinge to it).

The original blue screen on my 260 got double bulls-eye stone damaged on the open road (NZ) so I claimed on my insurance as it had free windscreen replacement. The replacement which was installed gratis though wasn't a Nissan screen, but an aftermarket Australian-made screen, & it's clear. The original was too far gone to repair, so I purchased a good used blue screen (in NZ) to install if I ever get around to restoring the car.

So I guess my gratis screen was made clear to suit Aus-new cars & was all that was available.



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Posted 11 November 2016 - 02:44 AM

Yeah a photo of the 2 side by side would help a lot. Otherwise it's going to be hard to know if I've found the right glass.



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Posted 17 November 2016 - 05:50 PM

Hi Gav,

 

I will take some photo's this weekend and check the part number on the watermarks (photo in the first post is from the blue tint) too see if they are the same.

 

If you do have contacts in the States I would be very grateful for you to contact them. Also would be interested in a horizontal dismeter hatch glass as the one I brought in from Japan was not packed well and has many marks.

 

If Specialp3 is correct though then only a 260Z glass will fit his 240. And the 260 was a one-year only model in the USA.

But if there was a change in the bolting pattern for whatever reason then I suspect it was done part-way through the 260 & 280Z production years.

Toughened glass can't be altered, but maybe the mounting bracket can be?

 

Specialp3, have you touched base with the NZ Datsun Z Club? NZ has a variety of 240/260/280/2+2 Zeds, some sold NZ-new, but many others are used car imports from Australia, the UK, Nth America, Japan, Asia, wherever, often brought in by returning expats. It shouldn't be impossible to find a blue-tint door glass, I could be wrong but my impression when I was a club member there - many years ago now - was that clear glass was less common in club cars than blue-tint. Worth a try, or check out TradeMe.com the NZ equivalent to eBay.

The 280z door glass is a different shape at the bottom, I did try to modify the 240 window regulator but not even close to fitting.

 

Never thought about NZ, shall do some investigating to see if anyone can help.

 

I have contacted this shop in the UK (http://www.mzr-roadsports.com/en/) but no had no reply. They do build some very nice cars.

 

This car is for sale at the moment http://www.carandcla....uk/car/C803136

 

Very nice for $65K + shipping.


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Posted 18 November 2016 - 09:45 AM

Hi Gav,
 
I will take some photo's this weekend and check the part number on the watermarks (photo in the first post is from the blue tint) too see if they are the same.
 
If you do have contacts in the States I would be very grateful for you to contact them. Also would be interested in a horizontal demister hatch glass as the one I brought in from Japan was not packed well and has many marks.


Yes I have a contact in SFO that has helped me with several parts. He has a few vertical defrost glass, the only problem is shipping and making sure they don't get broken. I am trying to get him to put together an inventory of sorts with all the panels he has etc.. Topy wheels etc..
I'm looking to do a bulk import (container) at some point. Since roof turrets, 1/4 panels, doors, bonnets are all in demand I'm sure. Not to mention original steel wheels.

If we know exactly what part no's to look for when it comes to this glass I'm sure he can find it.

By the way how bad are the marks in your existing vertical defrost glass? Sure they can't be polished out?

I have contacted this shop in the UK (http://www.mzr-roadsports.com/en/) but no had no reply. They do build some very nice cars.
 
This car is for sale at the moment http://www.carandcla....uk/car/C803136
 
Very nice for $65K + shipping.


I believe Alan (HS30-H) knows the workshop and their owners. So if you don't get a reply maybe ask him to help out?

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 06:35 PM

240z and 260z holes are different as far as i know, but that may vary on v.early 260s

if anyone in this thread can help with a pair of STANDARD glass, I'd appreciate it.

my one is sratched

thanks



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Posted 25 November 2016 - 04:17 PM

Is this the Blue Tint you're referring to?

I found this listing here:
http://www.ebay.com/...ydWjZSs&vxp=mtr
Here is another.
http://www.ebay.com/...V9X1en1&vxp=mtr


Can't tell if it's blue or the cloth behind it makes it look blue...

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